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Old 03-05-2010, 12:54 AM   #51
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is Dirty D the same person as Dirty Danza?
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:55 AM   #52
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So you are opposed to turning in someone for shooting a minor? Are you against the ASACP too?
In this situation there was nobody "turning in someone" It was an old dead issue with a girl with a fake id.

But since you want to act like you are not understanding what happened here... oh fuck it. Think what you want. Serious people on here saw the situation that happened on GFY and the person who isn't even in our business playing detective and what went down.

My point is that this kind of thing does no good for any of our business. Even yours. Just gives the govt. more ammunition to take away more of our freedoms and rights.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:56 AM   #53
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is Dirty D the same person as Dirty Danza?
No......
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Old 03-05-2010, 01:10 AM   #54
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Sure that would be an EASY out.....but the plain fack of the matter is....she was soliciting shooters....

model...going do you need models?

shooter....why...yes.

model....well I can be one....but...im 17....but I am married and emancipated.....

shooter (who only pays up to $300 per scene)....come on in.

so....if ya have any other questions.....feel free to watch the case....


FYI......for those who loved to say that there is a shitload of talent in TAMPA....none of them are willling to work for UP TO $300.....wake the fuck up.
You're assuming the girl told him she was 17. Why the hell would she get a fake id just to turn around and tell the shooter that she is 17. Doesn't make any sense.

Most good fake I.Ds can even fool law enforcement.
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Old 03-05-2010, 01:29 AM   #55
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However with that said I hope he's innocent and is able to prove it in a court of law. What is really fucking pathetic though is other people in this biz on this very board trying to make a buck off of this situation. That is what is truly sad with this industry is that we feed the very slime that will gladly profit off of others misfortunes.
Come on, this has nothing to do with this industry...everytime something bad happens to people, other people try to profit on it. Actually the richest guys in the world got rich on other people's misfortune. When you buy a house for 50% of what its worth, because the family needs money quick, that isn't different either.
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Old 03-05-2010, 01:33 AM   #56
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FYI......for those who loved to say that there is a shitload of talent in TAMPA....none of them are willling to work for UP TO $300.....wake the fuck up.
This is true...its hard to find girls for more than $300.
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:34 AM   #58
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is Dirty D the same person as Dirty Danza?
nope....danza vegas...
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You're assuming the girl told him she was 17. Why the hell would she get a fake id just to turn around and tell the shooter that she is 17. Doesn't make any sense.

Most good fake I.Ds can even fool law enforcement.
Mike its not an assumption.....the girl wrote the same form letters to all the shooters locally.....i guess if you were say....stevie wonder you wouldnt be able to see it.

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Old 03-05-2010, 05:45 AM   #61
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sounds fishy to me... even an idiot wouldnt be stupid enough to shoot an underage girl for content.... now, bang one on the downlow is a different story lol
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Did he ever go to trial for jacking off in that movie theatre? I wonder if the DA is going to bring that up to the jury at his CP trial?
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:06 AM   #64
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I think it still has fmltube written all over it, especially after the revelation in this article that police acted after receiving a letter. Perhaps it was a letter from Amsterdam or wherever he/she is or claims to be.

If it was fmltube, that leads to a second question ... do we really consider him/her to be a industry person? He/she had a tube site where far too many of the sponsor vids didn't even match to the appropriate link codes. That site didn't last long. At the time we were told that it came down because something better was coming ... just visited the site and it redirects to the ******** post about Kelsie Cummings.
she admitted she sent the letter on another board and says she is doing the same now with ex-gf sites.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:39 AM   #66
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Why is everyone "shocked" a shooter would ever do something like this? There are a lot of shady people in this business, which is why it's important to know who you're doing business with.

Not saying D did that, but there are people that have done it and there will still be others in the future.

Next you're going to tell me that companies don't knowingly hire illegal workers to save $7 an hour.

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Old 03-05-2010, 09:46 AM   #68
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Did he ever go to trial for jacking off in that movie theatre? I wonder if the DA is going to bring that up to the jury at his CP trial?
Bye bye D!
they will bring up that and the arrest where some dude was blowing him in the theater, they will make him look as bad as possible for the jury...and the girl will be the poor single mom trying to feed her child, when they bring up that he was having her work with the untested talent without her knowledge that she was told were tested, it isn't gonna be pretty for dirty motherfuckin d. the cops grabbed is herb and hash collection im sure, miss did mr dirty motherfuckin d offer you any drugs prior to you signing the paperwork? yep its not gonna look good at all to the bible thumpers on the jury they will see dirty motherfuckin d as the antichrist... jury foreman "we the jury would like to know what is the maximum sentence allowed by law your honor"
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In this situation there was nobody "turning in someone" It was an old dead issue with a girl with a fake id.

But since you want to act like you are not understanding what happened here... oh fuck it. Think what you want. Serious people on here saw the situation that happened on GFY and the person who isn't even in our business playing detective and what went down.

My point is that this kind of thing does no good for any of our business. Even yours. Just gives the govt. more ammunition to take away more of our freedoms and rights.
That's his side of the story. A side that he has so much faith in that he's hiding out in a foreign country.

And like I've said, if a minor is being shot, it deserves to be reported. No questions asked. You don't cover up for a guy who shoots minors because you feel it might hurt your business.
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A good defense atty should be able to keep his prior offenses out of the court room as they do not relate to this charge and could potentially taint the jury's opinion of him.

From what I have read, and based on what others have posted, a fake id never came into play. The email response to her letter advised her to borrow a friend's ID that was over 18 and bring that to the shoot with her. When she was filling out her release it is alleged she asked infront of all parties involved something to the effect of, "Do I fill in my own information or do I put what is on the ID?" to which she claims she was instructed to fill out the forms using her friend's information.

I'm not saying FMLTube isn't a scumbag, truthfully it seems the root of the issues between FML and D go deeper than this scandal and getting a law enforcement agency involved to settle a personal vendetta is beyond low- BUT if these allegations are true D has no one to blame but himself.

1. You don't shoot minors, ever

2. If you ARE stupid enough to fuck around, and you are willing to put everyone you work with at risk, you don't communicate it in writing (this girl's email reads like a "To catch a predator" sting)

3. If your ass is exposed and someone who has deep seeded issues against you calls you out on it, don't tell them to go shit in the ocean
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A good defense atty should be able to keep his prior offenses out of the court room as they do not relate to this charge and could potentially taint the jury's opinion of him.

From what I have read, and based on what others have posted, a fake id never came into play. The email response to her letter advised her to borrow a friend's ID that was over 18 and bring that to the shoot with her. When she was filling out her release it is alleged she asked infront of all parties involved something to the effect of, "Do I fill in my own information or do I put what is on the ID?" to which she claims she was instructed to fill out the forms using her friend's information.

I'm not saying FMLTube isn't a scumbag, truthfully it seems the root of the issues between FML and D go deeper than this scandal and getting a law enforcement agency involved to settle a personal vendetta is beyond low- BUT if these allegations are true D has no one to blame but himself.

1. You don't shoot minors, ever

2. If you ARE stupid enough to fuck around, and you are willing to put everyone you work with at risk, you don't communicate it in writing (this girl's email reads like a "To catch a predator" sting)

3. If your ass is exposed and someone who has deep seeded issues against you calls you out on it, don't tell them to go shit in the ocean
that's how i understood it as well
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i highly doubt D shot anyone that he knew was underage...where did the email come from everyone is talking about? did you get it off of D's computer? if not...then im sure it came from the "girls" or fmltube or someone else that shouldnt be on this board
if you look at the girls on his site...he doesn't even shoot the super teen looking ones normally...it doesn't make sense...its not like he was desperate to shoot someone that day

anyway, i wish him luck
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she admitted she sent the letter on another board and says she is doing the same now with ex-gf sites.
I thought she said she is "leaving" the industry. On JBM.
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Old 03-05-2010, 02:25 PM   #78
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Dirty D lives his American dream,

Quit his mainstream job and does what he likes the most, used an opportunity.

He didn't harm anyone in the process.

Plus he's a very smart guy as I know him, he can be more geeky than any IT methusalems around here, far from his board and public persona.

Anyone who's bashing him should rethink what business is he himself in, what product does he himself market, what does he do posting here in the first place.

The offense is there and needs to be dealt with, will be an interesting precedent.

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3. If your ass is exposed and someone who has deep seeded issues against you calls you out on it, don't tell them to go shit in the ocean
This has me mildly aroused. Does that make me a bad person?
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I wonder how him calling himself "Dirty D" will sit with the jurors.
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Dirty D lives his American dream,

Quit his mainstream job and does what he likes the most, used an opportunity.

He didn't harm anyone in the process.

Plus he's a very smart guy as I know him, he can be more geeky than any IT methusalems around here, far from his board and public persona.

Anyone who's bashing him should rethink what business is he himself in, what product does he himself market, what does he do posting here in the first place.

The offense is there and needs to be dealt with, will be an interesting precedent.
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A good defense atty should be able to keep his prior offenses out of the court room as they do not relate to this charge and could potentially taint the jury's opinion of him.

From what I have read, and based on what others have posted, a fake id never came into play. The email response to her letter advised her to borrow a friend's ID that was over 18 and bring that to the shoot with her. When she was filling out her release it is alleged she asked infront of all parties involved something to the effect of, "Do I fill in my own information or do I put what is on the ID?" to which she claims she was instructed to fill out the forms using her friend's information.

I'm not saying FMLTube isn't a scumbag, truthfully it seems the root of the issues between FML and D go deeper than this scandal and getting a law enforcement agency involved to settle a personal vendetta is beyond low- BUT if these allegations are true D has no one to blame but himself.

1. You don't shoot minors, ever

2. If you ARE stupid enough to fuck around, and you are willing to put everyone you work with at risk, you don't communicate it in writing (this girl's email reads like a "To catch a predator" sting)

3. If your ass is exposed and someone who has deep seeded issues against you calls you out on it, don't tell them to go shit in the ocean
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let's see a scan or screen capture of that email that's been copy n pasted a bunch of times - if that email can be authenticated he's up shit's creek without a paddle.

it seems unbelievable that he and his employees would be that insane to actually knowingly shoot a 17 year old because she had told them she's 'married and emancipated'

i'm not siding with anybody, i'm definitely not supporting DirtyD without seeing any evidence nor the girl.

in the end he has fallen victim to his own arrogance, the same arrogance he showed when he didn't want to pay Shoehorn 300 dollars. shooting the grimiest low class hardcore pornography in a city and county that everybody in this industry knows is as anti-porn as they come - arrogance and stupidity. You'd think two years or ago when he saw Tampa railroading Max Hardcore into prison he'd think 'my luck's gonna run out here, time to shut down or move on'.
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The email response to her letter advised her to borrow a friend's ID that was over 18 and bring that to the shoot with her. When she was filling out her release it is alleged she asked infront of all parties involved something to the effect of, "Do I fill in my own information or do I put what is on the ID?" to which she claims she was instructed to fill out the forms using her friend's information.
who posted the alleged contents of the email reply to this girl? and where did they get this information from? is the girl herself or somebody close to her posting in these threads?

if they handed over an email from him where he suggests borrowing a friend's ID and it's true, he deserves to go to jail for stupidity more than he does for shooting a 17 year old.
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who posted the alleged contents of the email reply to this girl? and where did they get this information from? is the girl herself or somebody close to her posting in these threads?

if they handed over an email from him where he suggests borrowing a friend's ID and it's true, he deserves to go to jail for stupidity more than he does for shooting a 17 year old.
exactly my point...i highly doubt anyone needs to shoot someone that badly
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:13 PM   #88
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in the end he has fallen victim to his own arrogance, the same arrogance he showed when he didn't want to pay Shoehorn 300 dollars. shooting the grimiest low class hardcore pornography in a city and county that everybody in this industry knows is as anti-porn as they come - arrogance and stupidity. You'd think two years or ago when he saw Tampa railroading Max Hardcore into prison he'd think 'my luck's gonna run out here, time to shut down or move on'.
He should have figured that out back when the city council held hearings for proposed laws to be enacted prior to Super Bowl XXXV (venue: Raymond James Stadium). One of the propsed laws was the six-foot rule
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Old 03-05-2010, 07:53 PM   #89
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He should have figured that out back when the city council held hearings for proposed laws to be enacted prior to Super Bowl XXXV (venue: Raymond James Stadium). One of the propsed laws was the six-foot rule
Wow. Is that not insane? Full grown adult men and women being treated like children.

The govt. is way overstepping their bounds with shit like that "6 foot rule"

How this kind of over reaching ever happened in our "free" country boggles my mind.

The founding fathers would have all been partying at Mons Venus, especially Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin. And if a city official tried to pass some kind of govt. takeover of what adults can and can't do...they would have found some rope and the nearest tree for that cocksucker.
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:04 PM   #90
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what did he do to fmltube that got him/her worked up enough to report his ass to the law?
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Old 03-05-2010, 09:21 PM   #91
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Wow. Is that not insane? Full grown adult men and women being treated like children.

The govt. is way overstepping their bounds with shit like that "6 foot rule"

How this kind of over reaching ever happened in our "free" country boggles my mind.

The founding fathers would have all been partying at Mons Venus, especially Thomas Jefferson and Ben Franklin. And if a city official tried to pass some kind of govt. takeover of what adults can and can't do...they would have found some rope and the nearest tree for that cocksucker.
I thought everyone knew about that shit.....yeah its crazy.....but it wasn?t implemented without a "little" duress from a group that calls themselves.....the NFL.....the owners want to have a "family friendly atmosphere" event.....and not something that should be aired on spice tv and played in sin city.....they also tried it as well in Jacksonville again prior to Super Bowl XXXIX. They try and try to do such things when they played it in Miami....but it?s too "wild west" down there for them to proceed with such initiatives.

Hell the owner of the Tampa strip club?. Mons Venus was not too happy when that went down back in 2001?.and Joe Redner has been trying to get Tampa into the light for awhile?I wish he could have been elected to the city council?.granted not all of what he would fight for would win with unanimous approval?.but some of those holy rollers may find that they are in fact the minority and not the majority on some very interesting issues.

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I wonder how him calling himself "Dirty D" will sit with the jurors.
Won't sit well with the prisoners
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This whole situation was based on Karma
It started with the thread where affiliate complains about not getting paid
Then D and his promo team showed some arrogance, and made us believe they even sold more thanks to this bad promo. They made huge mistakes and underestimated the anger and hate they produced while being so arrogant.

Webmasters can make you, and webmasters can break you.

Lesson learned!! oohh and D, do not drop the soap
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This whole situation was based on Karma
It started with the thread where affiliate complains about not getting paid
Then D and his promo team showed some arrogance, and made us believe they even sold more thanks to this bad promo. They made huge mistakes and underestimated the anger and hate they produced while being so arrogant.

Webmasters can make you, and webmasters can break you.

Lesson learned!! oohh and D, do not drop the soap
no doubt.........but it was not just merely just webmasters that did him in.....if that was the case his program would have been down the tubes awhile ago.
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