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J. Falcon · 02-16-2010, 11:59 AM

He doesn't realize how stupid he makes himself look. Let him keep posting and let it serve as a warning to other service providers.

themadwriter · 02-16-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fardoche27

You really are mad

pathetic

not mad, just surprised as well as disappointed that someone who considers them self to be so professional would allow one of their signature whores talk out of their ass not realizing the consequences those actions have on the company whose signature the owner allows him to use when posting!

Like iameros stated in one of his previous posts, you're best attempt at expressing your opinion was ended with a remark such as "pathetic"

Grow up and when you can state your opinion passionately as well as objectively without feeling the need for name calling feel free to come on back and grace us with your profound intelligence!

Agent 488 · 02-16-2010, 12:08 PM

thanks for the warning.

Eric · 02-16-2010, 12:32 PM

IAmEros,

You are not selling anything in this thread. I am moving this thread to the main forum, as that is where it belongs.

If you have an issue with the work of someone, then you are fine posting that. Keep your threats in your pocket. This will be your only warning.

Eric

J. Falcon · 02-16-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

thanks for the warning.

The only warning worth reading was the one just issued above me.

pornguy · 02-16-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notime

@poster:
Communication is one of the most difficult things in the world today.
Any form of not being absolutely clear as how you want things done in advance whereas the other party understands 100% what you mean, could end up in terrible miscommunication and assumptions (which are the "mother of all fuckups" usually, if you don't mind me using this well know quote, I mean no harm here for you but I will defend Jonh's reputation).

It is truly amazing what the lack of communication in this business.

alan-l · 02-16-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iameros

Hi

I'm posting this as a warning to all webmasters who intend doing business with Adult Copywriters as I have just had a very bad experience with them.

I've previously used Adult Copywriters, along with many other writers on these boards and whilst the posts were delivered slightly later than expected and the price of the work is higher than most other adult copy writers, for the most part I was pleased with the quality of the work.

Based on this I decided to give them another project of 210 blog posts to write. I dicussed the project with John Falcon from Adult Copywriters and we agred on the paramaters and price of the project, which was that it would take six weeks and half of the posts would be delivered in 3 weeks. I paid my deposit, sent an email with an attachment which contained a few hundred galleries and specifically marked which one's I needed done. I also explained this very clearly in the mail.

Just after 3 weeks the first batch of posts were delivered. It took me day or two to get around to looking at them but when i did, I realised he had delivered 105 gallery posts, but only 20 of them were one's that I had marked. So 85 incorrect ones in total.

I sent an email asking him what was going to be done and did not receive a reply. I sent a few more mails and after about four days he eventually got back to me.

He offered to refund me my money and deliver the remaining (incorrect posts) as well as to allow me to retain rights to the one's already sent. I said this was fair and so the refund went through. This was last week.

A short while ago I contacted Falcon to ask him what had happened to the rest of the posts. I will post the transcript of that conversation in another message below.

sorry, but you're beyond stupid

MoreMagic · 02-16-2010, 01:22 PM

It almost start to smell like fake drama, this guy cant be that stupid.

Nikki_Licks · 02-16-2010, 02:05 PM

I never worked with J. Falcon, but it sure does seem like he bent over backwards to clear this up and he even gave you the product and money back.....hardly call that a rip off....just my

J. Falcon · 02-16-2010, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic

It almost start to smell like fake drama, this guy cant be that stupid.

If only. But yes, he is that stupid. And yes, he will try to ruin someone over some bullshit.

MakingItPay · 02-16-2010, 03:18 PM

I can understand the guy's disappointment in not getting all the free stuff he was told he would get. But, he was more than made whole, and to complain about it as if this would keep anyone from working with J. Falcon is a bit much. This thread makes me want to do business with J. Falcon.

02-16-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

The only warning worth reading was the one just issued above me.

Well put. Too many threads with this kind of BS pop up on this site, glad that Eric caught up with it (as he always does, anyways).

papill0n · 02-16-2010, 03:35 PM

you sound like a whinging kid who needs a good dose of reality

JustDaveXxx · 02-16-2010, 03:52 PM

Genius thread!!!

J.Falcon did you troll your self for the publicity?lol JK

J.Facon is good in my book.

J. Falcon · 02-16-2010, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Genius thread!!!

J.Falcon did you troll your self for the publicity?lol JK

J.Facon is good in my book.

Sadly no.There are people this stupid in the industry, who are willing to ruin someone's reputation over nothing.

Loch · 02-16-2010, 05:08 PM

First of all this should not even have been on the boards, now that it is im sure its just more business for Falcon

Secondly, Falcon most would drag this out and not refund, standup move.

Thirdly, im sure that this guy is more pissed about the wasted time then anything

Fourth

We all screw up, all of us have (Hey Notime, pardon our last delay)

Some things just fall through the cracks when you have been in business a LONG time.

woj · 02-16-2010, 05:39 PM

This is some very weak drama, barely registering on my dramaometer...

fardoche27 · 02-16-2010, 06:43 PM

Let's give this thread a bump for J. Falcon. I'm sure he apreciates the good publicity this gives him

sarettah · 02-16-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by iameros

sent an email with an attachment which contained a few hundred galleries and specifically marked which one's I needed done. I also explained this very clearly in the mail.

I have read the thread and have just one question. Why did you send a list with galleries marked? Why not send a list of the galleries that you wanted posts for? This would have eliminated the possibility of you getting the wrong posts.

Or did you think that that was a writer's responsibility, to sort through your list for you?

In any deal like this the client has some responsibility for the success of the job.

As far as the rest goes I call what JF did "firing a client". I have done it more often then I would like to admit but basically, when dealing with a client that is more pain oa a pain in the ass than the cash is worth, I fire them. I give them back all their money and leave the work in the condition it is in and tell them "sorry, it did not work out".

Most of the clients I have fired are ones who think that because they have paid me for programming or design time that they can use me to maintain their site, fix their database entries, all sorts of menial tasks that the client should have taken care of themselves.

Sort of like asking a writer to sort through your list of galleries for you.

Just my

dig420 · 02-16-2010, 07:36 PM

Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.

Nicky · 02-16-2010, 07:38 PM

We need Shemp and a drama rating in here.

J. Falcon · 02-16-2010, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.

Contacting you right now.

iameros · 02-16-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

thanks for the warning.

You're welcome, I'm sure many others who have read this feel the same way.

iameros · 02-16-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tube2k

Apparently you don't know how to read. You come in here, being even newer than I am, and try to disrupt the business of someone who has never had a problem with anyone for as long as I have been here, and I am sure even longer than that without a doubt.

You made a mistake and I think you should man up and accept it and apologize. But what am I thinking? That stuff doesn't happen anymore. Nobody is ever wrong.

How do you know he's never had a problem with anyone else, are you the omnipotent God of the boards?

I made a mistake? Now you're just being obtuse.

iameros · 02-16-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric

IAmEros,

You are not selling anything in this thread. I am moving this thread to the main forum, as that is where it belongs.

If you have an issue with the work of someone, then you are fine posting that. Keep your threats in your pocket. This will be your only warning.

Eric

Eric, what threats? Please can you point out to me when I have threatened this service provider in this thread?

iameros · 02-16-2010, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420

Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.

WARNING: At the rate that Falcon wrote posts for me, you can expect to receive those in approximately 10 years and to pay in excess of $14K.

iameros · 02-16-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

I have read the thread and have just one question. Why did you send a list with galleries marked? Why not send a list of the galleries that you wanted posts for? This would have eliminated the possibility of you getting the wrong posts.

Or did you think that that was a writer's responsibility, to sort through your list for you?

In any deal like this the client has some responsibility for the success of the job.

As far as the rest goes I call what JF did "firing a client". I have done it more often then I would like to admit but basically, when dealing with a client that is more pain oa a pain in the ass than the cash is worth, I fire them. I give them back all their money and leave the work in the condition it is in and tell them "sorry, it did not work out".

Most of the clients I have fired are ones who think that because they have paid me for programming or design time that they can use me to maintain their site, fix their database entries, all sorts of menial tasks that the client should have taken care of themselves.

Sort of like asking a writer to sort through your list of galleries for you.

Just my

Since this has come up more than once, I will explain. I had over 2,000 galleries that I wanted Falcon to write posts for. This order was the first 200 of them. They were supplied in an excel sheet in which there was a column titled Notes under which I wrote POST REQUIRED. I then sent this with a mail, in which I clearly explained that only the posts with note; POST REQUIRED should be written.

Oh yes, and there was no sorting required as it was the first 20 posts of each sheet.

Is that really so difficult?

fatfoo · 02-16-2010, 11:23 PM

Good luck with your posts, iameros.

iameros · 02-16-2010, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks

I never worked with J. Falcon, but it sure does seem like he bent over backwards to clear this up and he even gave you the product and money back.....hardly call that a rip off....just my

In what way did I get the product and money back. Yes I got my deposit back and I got 20 posts I ordered, 85 which I didn't.

There seems to be a general misconception on this thread that I got all the work and my money. This is not the case, I got 20 posts I ordered and my money back for those. What I didn't get was the additional posts promised to me.

What's also really funny is how people keep saying, you're lucky, most would not have refunded you, etc, etc. So what we are saying is that most providers on this board or in this industry are rip off merchants and so we should count ourselves lucky.

As I explained in the restaraunt analogy if the owner promised you compenation in the form of a dessert and then did not deliver that and told you so in rude and off handed way, would you say, "Oh jeez, well I should be lucky I got some of my meal for free" and be grateful. BULLSHIT! You wouldn't do that because you hold that industry up to a certian standard.

Why should't AC be held up to that standard as well? If we don't hold providers in this industry up to the same standard as we hold providers in other industries how do you ever expect to improve things.

iameros · 02-17-2010, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

Good luck with your posts, iameros.

Thank you

sarettah · 02-17-2010, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iameros

Since this has come up more than once, I will explain. I had over 2,000 galleries that I wanted Falcon to write posts for. This order was the first 200 of them. They were supplied in an excel sheet in which there was a column titled Notes under which I wrote POST REQUIRED. I then sent this with a mail, in which I clearly explained that only the posts with note; POST REQUIRED should be written.

Oh yes, and there was no sorting required as it was the first 20 posts of each sheet.

Is that really so difficult?

Much more difficult then if you had only sent the 200 galleries that you wanted done. If there had only been those 200 there would have been no chance of the wrong galleries getting picked.

But then again, you would have had to do work to prepare properly then.

Much better to throw that work at someone who you didn't pay to do it.

You paid for writing, not going through multiple page spreadsheet lists.

sarettah · 02-17-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros

In what way did I get the product and money back. Yes I got my deposit back and I got 20 posts I ordered, 85 which I didn't. .

Quote:

Originally Posted by iameros

I had over 2,000 galleries that I wanted Falcon to write posts for. This order was the first 200 of them.

So, let's see. You say you got 20 posts you ordered and 85 you didn't. But yet you also indicate that you planned to have them do all 2000. So it is hardly like the 85 that you didn't order are unusable.

I think you just want to whine.

iameros · 02-17-2010, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

Much more difficult then if you had only sent the 200 galleries that you wanted done. If there had only been those 200 there would have been no chance of the wrong galleries getting picked.

But then again, you would have had to do work to prepare properly then.

Much better to throw that work at someone who you didn't pay to do it.

You paid for writing, not going through multiple page spreadsheet lists.

You're right maybe I'm overestimating the ability of providers to follow more than very basic instructions. I'll be sure to bear that in mind in future.

iameros · 02-17-2010, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah

Much more difficult then if you had only sent the 200 galleries that you wanted done. If there had only been those 200 there would have been no chance of the wrong galleries getting picked.

But then again, you would have had to do work to prepare properly then.

Much better to throw that work at someone who you didn't pay to do it.

You paid for writing, not going through multiple page spreadsheet lists.

Did I ask the provder to note down which posts he should write. No, I asked him to write the posts that I had marked for writing. Very tricky stuff

iameros · 02-17-2010, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

So, let's see. You say you got 20 posts you ordered and 85 you didn't. But yet you also indicate that you planned to have them do all 2000. So it is hardly like the 85 that you didn't order are unusable.

I think you just want to whine.

Of course they are not unusable otherwise why would I have been annoyed that I didn't get the other 105.

You think I like to whine. I think you like to argue.

iameros · 02-17-2010, 01:26 AM

Interesting how none of AC's defenders respond back to specific questions I ask such as the one about standards (above) but rather find it more rewarding to you accuse me of whining and calling me stupid and idiotic. When the opportunity for serious debate presents itself, name calling is the recourse of the ignorant.

iameros · 02-17-2010, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadwriter

not mad, just surprised as well as disappointed that someone who considers them self to be so professional would allow one of their signature whores talk out of their ass not realizing the consequences those actions have on the company whose signature the owner allows him to use when posting!

Like iameros stated in one of his previous posts, you're best attempt at expressing your opinion was ended with a remark such as "pathetic"

Grow up and when you can state your opinion passionately as well as objectively without feeling the need for name calling feel free to come on back and grace us with your profound intelligence!

No response Falcon? Mmmm, I wonder why....?

iameros · 02-17-2010, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

Of course you don't know, so you would be wise to shut up.

If he or you have any "info" you are both free to share it right here for everyone to see. I am getting tired of your threats on this thread as well as your accusations. It is time that the mods take a look at this thread. Thank you for showing everyone how professional you are, trying to ruin someone's business based on nothing but bulllshit. If I had known you would act like this I would not have given you the money back.

Please explain how I've threatened you on this thread? I promise that if you can point that out I won't post in this thread anymore. If you can't then be a man and admit that you've once again made a mistake?

BAKO · 02-17-2010, 02:16 AM

you failed at the internets

iameros · 02-17-2010, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BAKO

you failed at the internets

That doesn't make any sense

incredibleworkethic · 02-17-2010, 03:14 AM

Just wanted to say John is a solid guy. I've worked with him before and he always seems to have good, productive and honest countermeasures.

As a writer myself, I feel what John offered was fair. To the OP, treat this as a learning experience and if John has wronged you so bad, just don't order from him again. I think most people have and will agree that what he offered was fair.

Good luck with this situation.

matuloo · 02-17-2010, 03:40 AM

iameros : you are making an issue out of the blue.

Ok, he screwed up, he admitted it, refunded your money and gave you 105 USABLE posts for free. So what is the point of this whole thread?

Are you mad because he didnt give you 100 more posts for free?
Are you mad because you wasted 3 weeks of time?
Are you mad because now you have to look for another writer?

The way this whole looks, youre a pathetic guy who creates drama posts for not getting some more free work, which is idiotic.

I would understand your position, if, and only if : you were willing to go on with the deal and have him finish the whole 2000 galleries for you and was told to fuck off. This is the only way I would understand your actions. You had a deal for 2000, he screwed up the first batch and refused to go on with the deal... that would make me upset, yes.

But if thats not the case, youre a crybaby begging for some more free shit.

fris · 02-17-2010, 05:37 AM

when will the madness stop

J. Falcon · 02-17-2010, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros

No response Falcon? Mmmm, I wonder why....?

He isn't talking to me, or didn't you notice that? Keep bumping this thread with your pathetic attempts at reasoning, it's just more good publicity for me, and you just continue making yourself look like an ass.

sarettah · 02-17-2010, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iameros

Did I ask the provder to note down which posts he should write. No, I asked him to write the posts that I had marked for writing. Very tricky stuff

You really just do not get it. It doesn't matter how simple it was, or more accurately, how simple you thought it was. It is a matter of responsibility.

You paid a certain amount per post. I am sure a writer bases their cost per post on how long it takes to write a post. That time does not include navigating a list with "special instructions". It does not include checking an additional column to see if this is one they should be working on. It does not include deciphering a client's "crystal clear" and "simple" instructions.

So, it does not matter how simple you think it is.

It would have been just as simple or more so for you to cut and paste the galleries you wanted into one comprehensive list that did not include any room for error into a spreadsheet, word doc, text file, email, or whatever preferred format the provider has.

But then you would have had to do additional work and the responsibility for ensuring that the right galleries were worked on would be on you (where it properly belongs).

Much easier to shift that stuff off onto the provider and expect them to to go out of the way for you.

J. Falcon · 02-17-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros

How do you know he's never had a problem with anyone else, are you the omnipotent God of the boards?

Because nobody has yet come in here and said they had a problem.

Holly · 02-17-2010, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadwriter

not mad, just surprised as well as disappointed that someone who considers them self to be so professional would allow one of their signature whores talk out of their ass not realizing the consequences those actions have on the company whose signature the owner allows him to use when posting!

Like iameros stated in one of his previous posts, you're best attempt at expressing your opinion was ended with a remark such as "pathetic"

Grow up and when you can state your opinion passionately as well as objectively without feeling the need for name calling feel free to come on back and grace us with your profound intelligence!

Nothing I enjoy better than a "writer" who doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

Quagmire · 02-17-2010, 09:09 AM

Classic stupidity. And I love how everyone jumps in and lays claim to a piece of Falcon's asshole with their tongue even though he stated to the guy he'd give the rest for free.

He made the promise, he broke the promise. From a business standpoint he is in the wrong. Then on top of that he didn't even bother to let the guy know he changed his mind?

Yeah, that is one standup, top notch, brotastic guy right there.

V_RocKs · 02-17-2010, 09:55 AM

#1 - If I were to send in an order and I wanted certain posts before others, I'd order the FHG's in the order in which I wished to receive them.

#2 - Never heard of these guys until now. I just put in a request for 200 myself. Who knows, maybe I can get half of them for free?

#3 - If I was really seriously wanting them in a certain order, I would have only sent that half. Then in three weeks, sent the other half.

J. Falcon · 02-17-2010, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs

#2 - Never heard of these guys until now. I just put in a request for 200 myself. Who knows, maybe I can get half of them for free?

Just responded to your email.

02-16-2010, 11:59 AM	#101
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02-16-2010, 12:32 PM	#104
Eric Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: The Helm! Posts: 8,818	IAmEros, You are not selling anything in this thread. I am moving this thread to the main forum, as that is where it belongs. If you have an issue with the work of someone, then you are fine posting that. Keep your threats in your pocket. This will be your only warning. Eric __________________ No One

02-16-2010, 02:05 PM	#109
Nikki_Licks Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Behind The Lens Posts: 6,323	I never worked with J. Falcon, but it sure does seem like he bent over backwards to clear this up and he even gave you the product and money back.....hardly call that a rip off....just my __________________ Amateur Content ICQ: 292 356 077

02-16-2010, 03:18 PM	#111
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02-16-2010, 03:52 PM	#114
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02-16-2010, 12:08 PM	#103
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	thanks for the warning.

02-16-2010, 01:22 PM	#108
MoreMagic Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,848	It almost start to smell like fake drama, this guy cant be that stupid.

02-16-2010, 03:35 PM	#113
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	you sound like a whinging kid who needs a good dose of reality

02-16-2010, 05:08 PM	#116
Loch Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,674	First of all this should not even have been on the boards, now that it is im sure its just more business for Falcon Secondly, Falcon most would drag this out and not refund, standup move. Thirdly, im sure that this guy is more pissed about the wasted time then anything Fourth We all screw up, all of us have (Hey Notime, pardon our last delay) Some things just fall through the cracks when you have been in business a LONG time. __________________ Contact us for Beta store access (4000 HD/SD productions) - Editing - Encoding/Post production ICQ - 277 862 930 E-mail casper /@/ cool-content.com

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02-16-2010, 06:43 PM	#118
fardoche27 Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Quebec Posts: 638	Let's give this thread a bump for J. Falcon. I'm sure he apreciates the good publicity this gives him

02-16-2010, 07:36 PM	#120
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.

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02-16-2010, 11:23 PM	#128
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02-17-2010, 01:26 AM	#136
iameros Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 254	Interesting how none of AC's defenders respond back to specific questions I ask such as the one about standards (above) but rather find it more rewarding to you accuse me of whining and calling me stupid and idiotic. When the opportunity for serious debate presents itself, name calling is the recourse of the ignorant. __________________ Email: iameros01 at gmail (.) com ICQ: 558960278

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02-17-2010, 03:14 AM	#141
incredibleworkethic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,302	Just wanted to say John is a solid guy. I've worked with him before and he always seems to have good, productive and honest countermeasures. As a writer myself, I feel what John offered was fair. To the OP, treat this as a learning experience and if John has wronged you so bad, just don't order from him again. I think most people have and will agree that what he offered was fair. Good luck with this situation.

02-17-2010, 03:40 AM	#142
matuloo Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 441	iameros : you are making an issue out of the blue. Ok, he screwed up, he admitted it, refunded your money and gave you 105 USABLE posts for free. So what is the point of this whole thread? Are you mad because he didnt give you 100 more posts for free? Are you mad because you wasted 3 weeks of time? Are you mad because now you have to look for another writer? The way this whole looks, youre a pathetic guy who creates drama posts for not getting some more free work, which is idiotic. I would understand your position, if, and only if : you were willing to go on with the deal and have him finish the whole 2000 galleries for you and was told to fuck off. This is the only way I would understand your actions. You had a deal for 2000, he screwed up the first batch and refused to go on with the deal... that would make me upset, yes. But if thats not the case, youre a crybaby begging for some more free shit. __________________ Matuloo.Com - My Affiliate Blog - Making paid traffic work.

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02-17-2010, 09:09 AM	#148
Quagmire Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Stinkin' up your bathroom Posts: 6,490	Classic stupidity. And I love how everyone jumps in and lays claim to a piece of Falcon's asshole with their tongue even though he stated to the guy he'd give the rest for free. He made the promise, he broke the promise. From a business standpoint he is in the wrong. Then on top of that he didn't even bother to let the guy know he changed his mind? Yeah, that is one standup, top notch, brotastic guy right there. __________________

02-17-2010, 09:55 AM	#149
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	#1 - If I were to send in an order and I wanted certain posts before others, I'd order the FHG's in the order in which I wished to receive them. #2 - Never heard of these guys until now. I just put in a request for 200 myself. Who knows, maybe I can get half of them for free? #3 - If I was really seriously wanting them in a certain order, I would have only sent that half. Then in three weeks, sent the other half.