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  • HandballJim
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    #1

    Super Bowl - Colts or Saints?

    Not feeling the game this year since I am not a fan of either team, but I will root for the Saints since they never won a Super Bowl before.

    I also have 2 boxes in a pool that I entered at my job. Since my wife is working I will most likely just stay home and watch the game and eat some honey BBQ wings.

    Who do you like in the game and where are you watching it?
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  • SomeCreep
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    #2
    Which team will win Super Bowl XLIV?

    47% Indianapolis Colts

    53% New Orleans Saints

    Total Votes: 159388

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    • fris
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      #3
      colts better team, but saints will win
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      • dooglas
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        #4
        I want the Colts to win! Two for Peyton.

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        • GAMEFINEST
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          #5
          colts will win
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          • mayabong
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            #6
            Originally posted by SomeCreep
            Which team will win Super Bowl XLIV?

            47% Indianapolis Colts

            53% New Orleans Saints

            Total Votes: 159388
            Dont see how the colts are the better team, saints have had the #1 offense 4 years straight and had the most takeaways on defense all year. The only reason they sucked at the end is because like 5 starters on defense got hurt..
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            • Porn Grounds
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              #7
              Saints better win. Colts are lackluster at best...
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              • Spunky
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                #8
                I want the Saints to win

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                • HandballJim
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                  #9
                  my wife asked me if I would record it so she can watch the commercials

                  no freakin way I told her, cause she only wanted me to tape the commercials...that is way too much work. She is threatening not to make the wings now.

                  hmmm I do have a KFC a block away.
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                  • mayabong
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                    #10
                    Also remember Peyton Grew up in New Orleans a Saints fan. .
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                    • The Porn Nerd
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                      #11
                      Head says Colts,
                      Heart says Saints.

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                      • LiveDose
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                        I don't really follow either team but I would love to see the Saints win.

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                        • Gnus
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                          #13
                          Going with the Saints. Definitely going to be shootout between quarterbacks that's for sure.

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                          • The Demon
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mayabong
                            Dont see how the colts are the better team, saints have had the #1 offense 4 years straight and had the most takeaways on defense all year. The only reason they sucked at the end is because like 5 starters on defense got hurt..
                            The Colts have had a better record, better defense, 20+ players hurt including 13 starters, and the best quarterback alive. Yea, they're the better team.
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                            • L-Pink
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by HandballJim
                              my wife asked me if I would record it so she can watch the commercials

                              no freakin way I told her, cause she only wanted me to tape the commercials...that is way too much work. She is threatening not to make the wings now.

                              hmmm I do have a KFC a block away.
                              Have her check youtube for the commercials. Tell her to be a "good little woman" and serve you wings wearing only high heels.

                              (let me know how that goes)


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                              • digitaldivas
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                                #16
                                i pick saints by 10
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                                • Vjo
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                                  #17
                                  I talked to my friend who is a die hard Vikes fan (he was calling radio stations Monday after the loss all upset) and we both agree the Saints tho desrving, did get cut alot of breaks to beat the Vikes.

                                  I hope the Saints win (my buddy says we must always root for the NFC
                                  but I'm pretty sure the Colts will win.

                                  But who knows. Always fun! Wish I had HD already. Sheeesh. Maybe hook it up this summer.

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                                  • HandballJim
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by L-Pink
                                    Have her check youtube for the commercials. Tell her to be a "good little woman" and serve you wings wearing only high heels.

                                    (let me know how that goes)

                                    .
                                    haha that can happen, but since she is an RN and will be leaving for her 3rd straight 12 hour night shift when the super bowl starts...she might not feed me the whole next week.
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                                    • will76
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SomeCreep
                                      Which team will win Super Bowl XLIV?

                                      47% Indianapolis Colts

                                      53% New Orleans Saints

                                      Total Votes: 159388
                                      Where did you find that?

                                      95% of the sports announcers, writers, analyst etc... are all calling for Indy to win. Payton Manning is the great QB ever, how could any one beat him. The Colts are the greatest team ever, blah blah... tired of hearing it. Dungy "I'd be shocked if the Colts don't win, they will win big".

                                      Yes the colts played in a superbowl and won it, yes it was in Miami. Did you know that over the last 4 years Brees has played just as good if not better than Manning? The Saints have the #6 ranked Rushing offense vs Indy's (dead last) 32# ranked rushing offense (can you say 1 dementional, the saints will be able to put more defenders in coverage, or blitz not having to worry as much about the run.)

                                      The best common opponent... New England. The Saints and Indy both played New England at home, with in 2 weeks of each other. Both teams had the full line up of main starters, and New England had the same players for both games. The outcome: Indy wins 35 - 34 because idiot Belichick goes for it on 4th from his own 28 yard line instead of punting. Indy wins one they should have lost. The Saints beat the shit out of New England, winning 38-17. It wasn't even as close as the score.

                                      The Saints played at Miami stadium this year, the Saints have played on a big stage (NFC championship game) twice in the last 4 years, they can handle the big stage.

                                      Just don't see how everyone is counting the saints out.
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                                      • will76
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by mayabong
                                        Also remember Peyton Grew up in New Orleans a Saints fan. .
                                        yeah since his dad was a QB for the saints for many years...

                                        Also Reggie Wayne grew up in New Orleans and was a huge Saints fan.

                                        Joseph Addai is from Houston and played at LSU, not sure if he was a Saints fan or not.
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                                        • Vjo
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                                          #21
                                          Ancient Chinese proverb: he who want high heel, have finger on remote all time


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                                          • will76
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                            The Colts have had a better record, better defense, 20+ players hurt including 13 starters, and the best quarterback alive. Yea, they're the better team.
                                            Offense:
                                            Saints: #4 Passing #6 Rushing
                                            Colts: #2 Passing #32 Rushing

                                            Defense:
                                            Saints: #26 Passing #21 Rushing #2 Take aways (39)
                                            Colts: #14 Passing #24 Rushing #18 Take aways (26)


                                            The Saint's defense has given up some yards in the post season, look which QB's and offenses they have played, two hall of fame Qb's Warner and Farve. Two high powered offenses and a top defense with Minnesota. Who has Indy played in the post season: Sanchez and Flacco two one domential teams, both running teams. So the colts cold stack the box. Can't do that against the saints who are great with running and passing the ball.
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                                            • will76
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Vjo
                                              I talked to my friend who is a die hard Vikes fan (he was calling radio stations Monday after the loss all upset) and we both agree the Saints tho desrving, did get cut alot of breaks to beat the Vikes.

                                              I hope the Saints win (my buddy says we must always root for the NFC
                                              but I'm pretty sure the Colts will win.

                                              But who knows. Always fun! Wish I had HD already. Sheeesh. Maybe hook it up this summer.
                                              The Saints might have gotten the last couple calls in that game, but the Vikings got the first 10 calls. There was some really bad calls in that game on both sides. The officiating sucked.
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                                              • Vjo
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                The Saints might have gotten the last couple calls in that game, but the Vikings got the first 10 calls. There was some really bad calls in that game on both sides. The officiating sucked.

                                                I knew you were going to respond to that post. You can understand, were still a bit upset the Vikes failed to get there again.

                                                Anyhow, everyone can agree the Vikes had a tough team this year. Favre
                                                did throw cross grain to get picked off when the Vikes have one of the best kickers.

                                                Kudos to your young kicker. He reminded me of Zester's avatar. Kidding Zester. Long blonde hair though parted in the middle.

                                                Anyhow, and then the Saints won the toss.
                                                (my buddy again, hehe, says always pick tails. tails never fails. A Vike picked heads, it was tails)

                                                If my buddy was here he would say BS. The refs totally called a one sided game and (he cliams) one ref is being investigated.

                                                But that's him. To me it was a close game all in all.

                                                Ya can't blame the refs.

                                                Go Saints
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                                                • The Demon
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by will76
                                                  Offense:
                                                  Saints: #4 Passing #6 Rushing
                                                  Colts: #2 Passing #32 Rushing

                                                  Defense:
                                                  Saints: #26 Passing #21 Rushing #2 Take aways (39)
                                                  Colts: #14 Passing #24 Rushing #18 Take aways (26)


                                                  The Saint's defense has given up some yards in the post season, look which QB's and offenses they have played, two hall of fame Qb's Warner and Farve. Two high powered offenses and a top defense with Minnesota. Who has Indy played in the post season: Sanchez and Flacco two one domential teams, both running teams. So the colts cold stack the box. Can't do that against the saints who are great with running and passing the ball.
                                                  Manning shredded the Ravens' Defense, and then the #1 defense in the NFL. Brees and his bunch got massacred in virtually every category, and needed a typical Brett Favre play to escape with a victory. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out where this is going to end up.
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                                                  • The Demon
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by will76
                                                    Where did you find that?

                                                    95% of the sports announcers, writers, analyst etc... are all calling for Indy to win. Payton Manning is the great QB ever, how could any one beat him. The Colts are the greatest team ever, blah blah... tired of hearing it. Dungy "I'd be shocked if the Colts don't win, they will win big".

                                                    Yes the colts played in a superbowl and won it, yes it was in Miami. Did you know that over the last 4 years Brees has played just as good if not better than Manning? The Saints have the #6 ranked Rushing offense vs Indy's (dead last) 32# ranked rushing offense (can you say 1 dementional, the saints will be able to put more defenders in coverage, or blitz not having to worry as much about the run.)

                                                    The best common opponent... New England. The Saints and Indy both played New England at home, with in 2 weeks of each other. Both teams had the full line up of main starters, and New England had the same players for both games. The outcome: Indy wins 35 - 34 because idiot Belichick goes for it on 4th from his own 28 yard line instead of punting. Indy wins one they should have lost. The Saints beat the shit out of New England, winning 38-17. It wasn't even as close as the score.

                                                    The Saints played at Miami stadium this year, the Saints have played on a big stage (NFC championship game) twice in the last 4 years, they can handle the big stage.

                                                    Just don't see how everyone is counting the saints out.
                                                    This is retarded logic. The Saints also lost their last 3, including a game to the Bucs, while the Colts pretty much rested their starters. The Saints had the better numbers, the Colts had the better record.
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                                                    • Horny Dude
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                                                      #27
                                                      I'm all for the Saints. Would love to see Brees get a ring. I'm still mad at my Chargers for giving him the boot.

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                                                      • mayabong
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Demon
                                                        This is retarded logic. The Saints also lost their last 3, including a game to the Bucs, while the Colts pretty much rested their starters. The Saints had the better numbers, the Colts had the better record.
                                                        Its really too hard to call if you ask me.. They are both great quarterbacks who can come from behind and do amazing things. Saints seem to win all the games Shockey is in.. He was hurt for the last 3 or so and so was Sharper. They are all healthy now. I'm hoping for a good game but the saints need to win because umm yeah i'm from there and the losing thing gets old after 43 years. ;)
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                                                        • Vjo
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                                                          #29
                                                          One other thing that has been true at least 4 out of 5 games: The favorite wins the Super Bowl. Might even be better than 80%.

                                                          Which makes rooting against Manning more fun. But the guy is good and seems to get it done.

                                                          Frankly it will be a miracle if the Saints win. But they are "Saints"

                                                          Ok forgive me. I been here a while.

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                                                          • mikeyddddd
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                                                            • will76
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by The Demon
                                                              This is retarded logic. The Saints also lost their last 3, including a game to the Bucs, while the Colts pretty much rested their starters. The Saints had the better numbers, the Colts had the better record.
                                                              comparing teams based off of like opponents, only 2 weeks apart, both home games, with all players healthy in those games is retarded logic? That is the best comparison of all except for playing each other.

                                                              What is retarded is to go on and on about how the colts rested their players but then say the saints lost their last 3 games. News flash, the saints rested most of their starters for the last game they lost, brees among other players didn't even take a snap. So thats 2 games they lost, but they pretty much had it all locked up towards the end and took their foot off the gas.

                                                              You got me there, the colts have the better record, they are 16-2, the Saints are 15-3. lol that proves everything.

                                                              How about the games that Indy was trying to win:
                                                              Beat Jacksonville by 2 points
                                                              Beat Miami by 4 points
                                                              Beat 49ers by 4 points
                                                              Beat Houston by 3 points
                                                              Beat Patriots by 1 point
                                                              Beat Ravens by 2 points
                                                              Beat Jacksonville by 4 points

                                                              Thats 7 games they won by a total of 20 points.

                                                              The Saints had 2 games they won by 3 points, 1 game by 5 points, all other games they won by 8 points or more.
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                                                              • will76
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Vjo
                                                                One other thing that has been true at least 4 out of 5 games: The favorite wins the Super Bowl. Might even be better than 80%.

                                                                Which makes rooting against Manning more fun. But the guy is good and seems to get it done.

                                                                Frankly it will be a miracle if the Saints win. But they are "Saints"

                                                                Ok forgive me. I been here a while.
                                                                even vegas put the odds at 6 points = a "miracle" ?
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                                                                • AMDWarrior
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Fucking Go Saints!!

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                                                                  • will76
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    I hope the "dirty" saints kick the shit out of Manning, knock his teeth out... all legit hits though. I can see it now if they touch him wrong the refs are going to be throwing flags.

                                                                    I also think Manning is going to throw a few picks... Would be nice if we can beat them 45 - 21
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                                                                    • Vjo
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      I'm glad for you New Orleans. It's fun as hell to have your team in the Super Bowl

                                                                      And being an underdog just makes it more fun for ya.
                                                                      Vikes were always an underdog in 4 times. Although the oddmakers called those correct.

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                                                                      • Vjo
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        BUT, I still had a blast watching them. You'aaall are in for some big fun son

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                                                                        • Ca$h-collector
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          colts for sure

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                                                                          • Caligari
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Reality is the Saints have been dissed by the sports media since day one of the playoffs-
                                                                            media says cardinals beat saints-
                                                                            media says vikings beat saints- (btw, saints scored 31 points against the 6th ranked defense in the NFL)

                                                                            reality- sports media does NOT like the saints

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                                                                            How is this possible?

                                                                            STATS
                                                                            Touchdowns
                                                                            Brees 34 , Manning 33

                                                                            Interceptions
                                                                            Brees 11 , Manning 16

                                                                            Passing Yards
                                                                            Brees 4,388, Manning 4,500

                                                                            Yards Per Pass
                                                                            Brees 8.5 , Manning 7.9

                                                                            Passer Rating
                                                                            Brees 109.6 , Manning 99.9
                                                                            (Brees' rating is the seventh best of all time.)

                                                                            Completion Percentage
                                                                            Brees 70.6, Manning 68.8

                                                                            Final analysis - Manning a great quarterback this season, Brees BETTER
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                                                                            • punkpred
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Easy win for the colts but it would be cool to see the saints take home the win
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                                                                              • cykoe6
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                I believe that Manning will will his team to a victory as right now he is the best QB on earth. Having said that, the Saints have a legitimate shot to win if they play well. If they play like they did against Minnesota they will lose badly.
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  anybody said superblow?

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                                                                                  • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                    Geaux saints!!!!

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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Colts will win.
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                                                                                      • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Caligari
                                                                                        Reality is the Saints have been dissed by the sports media since day one of the playoffs-
                                                                                        media says cardinals beat saints-
                                                                                        media says vikings beat saints- (btw, saints scored 31 points against the 6th ranked defense in the NFL)

                                                                                        reality- sports media does NOT like the saints
                                                                                        glad someone said it... ive noticed too.

                                                                                        even as a non football fan but a Saints fan I can see it. I only like the Saints because i am bortn and raised New Orleans native, howeer, I can see that the Saints have always gotten the shit end of the media.

                                                                                        Even after reaching the Superbowl people still act like they suck LOL its like they wont admit the Saints are good enough to go to Superbowl

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                                                                                        • The Demon
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by will76
                                                                                          comparing teams based off of like opponents, only 2 weeks apart, both home games, with all players healthy in those games is retarded logic? That is the best comparison of all except for playing each other.
                                                                                          Yes, it's retarded logic, because the Colts have been missing 20 players all season, and that sports are all about matchups. You're basically saying, "because the Bucs beat the Saints and the Saints beat the Patriots by more than the Colts did, the Bucs and Saints both can beat the Colts". And that is retarded logic.

                                                                                          What is retarded is to go on and on about how the colts rested their players but then say the saints lost their last 3 games. News flash, the saints rested most of their starters for the last game they lost, brees among other players didn't even take a snap. So thats 2 games they lost, but they pretty much had it all locked up towards the end and took their foot off the gas.
                                                                                          Love the excuses. Actually, the Saints didn't rest their starters against the Bucs. Try again.


                                                                                          You got me there, the colts have the better record, they are 16-2, the Saints are 15-3. lol that proves everything.
                                                                                          As opposed to "LOLZ SAINTS BEAT THE PATS BY MORE THAN THE COLTS DID SO THEY WILL WIN!!"

                                                                                          How about the games that Indy was trying to win:
                                                                                          Beat Jacksonville by 2 points
                                                                                          Beat Miami by 4 points
                                                                                          Beat 49ers by 4 points
                                                                                          Beat Houston by 3 points
                                                                                          Beat Patriots by 1 point
                                                                                          Beat Ravens by 2 points
                                                                                          Beat Jacksonville by 4 points

                                                                                          Thats 7 games they won by a total of 20 points.

                                                                                          The Saints had 2 games they won by 3 points, 1 game by 5 points, all other games they won by 8 points or more.
                                                                                          It is quite obvious that you have no knowledge of football, much less any sport, and just throw in random facts to prove that you have no real understanding. Thanks for playing.
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                                                                                          • will76
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Caligari
                                                                                            Reality is the Saints have been dissed by the sports media since day one of the playoffs-
                                                                                            media says cardinals beat saints-
                                                                                            media says vikings beat saints- (btw, saints scored 31 points against the 6th ranked defense in the NFL)

                                                                                            reality- sports media does NOT like the saints

                                                                                            Manning MVP????

                                                                                            How is this possible?

                                                                                            STATS
                                                                                            Touchdowns
                                                                                            Brees 34 , Manning 33

                                                                                            Interceptions
                                                                                            Brees 11 , Manning 16

                                                                                            Passing Yards
                                                                                            Brees 4,388, Manning 4,500

                                                                                            Yards Per Pass
                                                                                            Brees 8.5 , Manning 7.9

                                                                                            Passer Rating
                                                                                            Brees 109.6 , Manning 99.9
                                                                                            (Brees' rating is the seventh best of all time.)

                                                                                            Completion Percentage
                                                                                            Brees 70.6, Manning 68.8

                                                                                            Final analysis - Manning a great quarterback this season, Brees BETTER


                                                                                            Even in the playoffs this year Manning has 5 TDs and 1 INT to Brees' 6 TDs 0 INTs... but they all talk about how good Manning has been in the playoffs this year but don't mention Brees at all.

                                                                                            Since 2006 (the last 4 seasons) Brees is #1 in passing yards - more than Manning. They both are tied at #1 with 122 TDs. Manning has been playing a few more years and his life time stats are better, but I just don't understand how they can dis Brees so bad when he has done as good or better than Manning in the last 4 years since he has been with the Saints. If Brees would have had a better defense in years past he would have made the superbowl every year, can't knock him for not having superbowl wins because he has had bad defenses.
                                                                                            Last edited by will76; 02-07-2010, 06:52 AM.
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                                                                                            • The Demon
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Caligari
                                                                                              Reality is the Saints have been dissed by the sports media since day one of the playoffs-
                                                                                              media says cardinals beat saints-
                                                                                              media says vikings beat saints- (btw, saints scored 31 points against the 6th ranked defense in the NFL)

                                                                                              reality- sports media does NOT like the saints

                                                                                              Manning MVP????

                                                                                              How is this possible?

                                                                                              STATS
                                                                                              Touchdowns
                                                                                              Brees 34 , Manning 33

                                                                                              Interceptions
                                                                                              Brees 11 , Manning 16

                                                                                              Passing Yards
                                                                                              Brees 4,388, Manning 4,500

                                                                                              Yards Per Pass
                                                                                              Brees 8.5 , Manning 7.9

                                                                                              Passer Rating
                                                                                              Brees 109.6 , Manning 99.9
                                                                                              (Brees' rating is the seventh best of all time.)

                                                                                              Completion Percentage
                                                                                              Brees 70.6, Manning 68.8

                                                                                              Final analysis - Manning a great quarterback this season, Brees BETTER
                                                                                              Ah yes, because stats are the end all be all of MVP determination. Gotta love the ignorance.
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                                                                                              • The Demon
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by will76
                                                                                                I hope the "dirty" saints kick the shit out of Manning, knock his teeth out... all legit hits though. I can see it now if they touch him wrong the refs are going to be throwing flags.

                                                                                                I also think Manning is going to throw a few picks... Would be nice if we can beat them 45 - 21
                                                                                                I see you have your excused prepared when the Colts win. I'll be waiting for your "refs cheated" posts postgame.
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                                                                                                • Itchy
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  New Orleans Saints!!


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                                                                                                  • will76
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by The Demon
                                                                                                    Yes, it's retarded logic, because the Colts have been missing 20 players all season, and that sports are all about matchups. You're basically saying, "because the Bucs beat the Saints and the Saints beat the Patriots by more than the Colts did, the Bucs and Saints both can beat the Colts". And that is retarded logic.

                                                                                                    Love the excuses. Actually, the Saints didn't rest their starters against the Bucs. Try again.



                                                                                                    As opposed to "LOLZ SAINTS BEAT THE PATS BY MORE THAN THE COLTS DID SO THEY WILL WIN!!"


                                                                                                    It is quite obvious that you have no knowledge of football, much less any sport, and just throw in random facts to prove that you have no real understanding. Thanks for playing.

                                                                                                    You are comical. I never said if one teams beats another, who beats another blah blah then that team would win.

                                                                                                    I said the best way to compare which team is better (unless they actually played each other) is to see how they played against a common opponent. HOWEVER, if one played them at home, the other on the road, or it was at different times of the year, or if weather conditions were bad for 1 but not the other, of if one team had hurt players for one of the games, etc.. then it wouldn't be a fair comparison to use.

                                                                                                    This isn't the end fucking all on who is going to win, but a good guage. If i am retarded for mentioning this then so are many sports writers who cited how the colts did real well against the rams but the saints didn't win by much. However those are not like games, the saints had a lot of players out for the rams game.

                                                                                                    You can't get a better comparison than the Saints vs Patriots and Colts vs Patriots game.
                                                                                                    - Both games were home games.
                                                                                                    - Both were nationally telivised games.
                                                                                                    - Both were indoors (weather conditions the same).
                                                                                                    - Both had teams (including patriots) had all of their main starters healthy and playing
                                                                                                    - Both games happened with in two weeks of each other.

                                                                                                    You will never find a better comparison game then that where all things are equal.

                                                                                                    BTW, I never said the Saints rested their starters against the bucs. I said they rested their starters in thier LAST game of the year, which was against the panthers. You said the Saints lost their last 3 games, but you FAILED to mention that one of them they rested their starters, it was the panthers game. And the Saints lost againts the Bucs in OT, after missing a FG.

                                                                                                    When I take a shit, my turd knows more about football then you do. Can't wait to see your Manning boy get flattened today.
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