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Old 12-21-2002, 08:14 PM   #51
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Congrats Brad lovely color.
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Old 12-21-2002, 08:39 PM   #52
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Nice Brad. Congrats.

I had a 2002 Euro model Red/Tan with F1 trans ordered and on the boat but had to cancel.

At this point in life my list of "fun" goals is short and it includes a Ferrari 360 F1 close to the top.
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Old 12-21-2002, 09:03 PM   #53
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oh come on
I understand many people don't like Brad, but please don't be acting like that Ferrari is not one of the sweetest cars on the planet. Its a fucking ferrari.

Now, sure, it can get beat by a few cars out there speed wise...I have a friend who has a 11 second Honda civic...A fucking ricer that gets no respect out of the rice world. Im sure that can beat Brad's Ferrari, but is that really the point here? Being able to buy A Ferrari, in my book, means you have made it financially. Material positions may not be everything, but if you can afford one, why not buy one?

Every modern day capitalist has most likely dreamed of owning a Ferrari. I am sure if this was not Brad, everyone would be giving the car props, so at least make that clear in your post. But do not dog a Ferrari. Only a women would not be able to make the distinction between a Ferrari and any other cars (no disrespect to the ladies, it's just the facts)

Props to Brad for getting a Ferrari, and props to Fantasyman for having a sweet ass viper(my 2nd most favorite car)
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oh come on
I understand many people don't like Brad, but please don't be acting like that Ferrari is not one of the sweetest cars on the planet. Its a fucking ferrari.

Now, sure, it can get beat by a few cars out there speed wise...I have a friend who has a 11 second Honda civic...A fucking ricer that gets no respect out of the rice world. Im sure that can beat Brad's Ferrari, but is that really the point here? Being able to buy A Ferrari, in my book, means you have made it financially. Material positions may not be everything, but if you can afford one, why not buy one?

Every modern day capitalist has most likely dreamed of owning a Ferrari. I am sure if this was not Brad, everyone would be giving the car props, so at least make that clear in your post. But do not dog a Ferrari. Only a women would not be able to make the distinction between a Ferrari and any other cars (no disrespect to the ladies, it's just the facts)

Props to Brad for getting a Ferrari, and props to Fantasyman for having a sweet ass viper(my 2nd most favorite car)
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Old 12-21-2002, 09:36 PM   #55
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You shit heads and your cars crack me up...I sold a medium sized stockbrokerage for a tidy sum on my 40th birthday...then got bit by the porn bug.

Houses, cars...some pretty sharp investing, guys.

I admit when I was about 25 I bought a 500 series Beamer...and realized that it nothing but a fucking hole in the garage you pour money into. As Serge pointed out, if you lease it you have some latitude in deductions....since stockbrokers usually get audited, you will have to show the nice auditor your travel log and identify what trips were for personal use and which ones are business...keeping in mind that travel to and from work isn't part of the deductability option. Be prepared for the big red IRS marker through that one.

Nice house, now figure in taxes, interest on your loan (which deductable, so you can take 28% of that) maintenance and upgrades and show me your real rate of return, you won't clear 3%.

For the record, I believe I could buy what I want...I am currently driving a rusted out '79 F-250 and live in a two bedroom apartment. Neighbors think I am on welfare...it's fucking great. I do still have a few Armani suits left...but you look pretty funny wearing an Armani suit in beater truck.

Did I mention the bank account and stock portfolio...smart guys got nice thick stock portfolios and plenty of money in the bank. Not penis building cars and guady houses as monuments to their own greatness. Warren Buffet drives a Buick Skylark....

By the way Serge, remember earlier this year I mentioned Cisco was gonna rock....what a two months I have had trading the shit out that.

For you other investors, study the stats on turn around stocks in bankrupcy....then take a hard look at United Airlines. Then think about Chrysler in the exact same situation, it was one of my greatest buys, in the dollar range and I chickened out and sold at 42. UAL is at about a buck, think the govt is gonna let UAL go out of business? Not a chance. Bush can't afford the PR...
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Houses, cars...some pretty sharp investing, guys.
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It's not an investment. It's a sports car.


Ever go on a vacation? Eat at a nice restaurant? Buy a good suit? All lousy "investments."
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You shit heads and your cars crack me up...I sold a medium sized stockbrokerage for a tidy sum on my 40th birthday...then got bit by the porn bug.
It beats walking!

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Nice house, now figure in taxes, interest on your loan (which deductable, so you can take 28% of that) maintenance and upgrades and show me your real rate of return, you won't clear 3%.
I hear cardboard boxes are really cost effective housing.. it's the heating and cooling that's the real bitch!

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For the record, I believe I could buy what I want...I am currently driving a rusted out '79 F-250 and live in a two bedroom apartment. Neighbors think I am on welfare...it's fucking great. I do still have a few Armani suits left...but you look pretty funny wearing an Armani suit in beater truck.
For such a modest guy living a modest living, you really seem to be posting a lot about it on GFY!

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Did I mention the bank account and stock portfolio...smart guys got nice thick stock portfolios and plenty of money in the bank. Not penis building cars and guady houses as monuments to their own greatness. Warren Buffet drives a Buick Skylark...
Was your post a penis building post?

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For you other investors, study the stats on turn around stocks in bankrupcy....then take a hard look at United Airlines. Then think about Chrysler in the exact same situation, it was one of my greatest buys, in the dollar range and I chickened out and sold at 42. UAL is at about a buck, think the govt is gonna let UAL go out of business? Not a chance. Bush can't afford the PR...
Seems like more penis building here!

No offense, but the "holier-than-thou" posts rub me the wrong way...
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KimmyKim - believe me, it wouldn't be close.

Interesting about you being at the drags and up on the line. Bob Brandt and Pat from Herbalo are old crew chief's for Don 'the snake' Prudohme and Shirley 'chacha' Muldowney and we go to a lot of events with them. We were in Vegas when Shirley retired Kenny Bernstein. These guys know so many people from NHRA that we can go down to the starting line any time - it's totally awesome - two cars, 12,000 Horsepower, the ground shakes, everything vibrates (girls in the stands love it) and it sounds like an explosion!!
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Old 12-21-2002, 10:06 PM   #60
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You shit heads and your cars crack me up...I sold a medium sized stockbrokerage for a tidy sum on my 40th birthday...then got bit by the porn bug.

Houses, cars...some pretty sharp investing, guys.

I admit when I was about 25 I bought a 500 series Beamer...and realized that it nothing but a fucking hole in the garage you pour money into. As Serge pointed out, if you lease it you have some latitude in deductions....since stockbrokers usually get audited, you will have to show the nice auditor your travel log and identify what trips were for personal use and which ones are business...keeping in mind that travel to and from work isn't part of the deductability option. Be prepared for the big red IRS marker through that one.

Nice house, now figure in taxes, interest on your loan (which deductable, so you can take 28% of that) maintenance and upgrades and show me your real rate of return, you won't clear 3%.

For the record, I believe I could buy what I want...I am currently driving a rusted out '79 F-250 and live in a two bedroom apartment. Neighbors think I am on welfare...it's fucking great. I do still have a few Armani suits left...but you look pretty funny wearing an Armani suit in beater truck.

Did I mention the bank account and stock portfolio...smart guys got nice thick stock portfolios and plenty of money in the bank. Not penis building cars and guady houses as monuments to their own greatness. Warren Buffet drives a Buick Skylark....

By the way Serge, remember earlier this year I mentioned Cisco was gonna rock....what a two months I have had trading the shit out that.

For you other investors, study the stats on turn around stocks in bankrupcy....then take a hard look at United Airlines. Then think about Chrysler in the exact same situation, it was one of my greatest buys, in the dollar range and I chickened out and sold at 42. UAL is at about a buck, think the govt is gonna let UAL go out of business? Not a chance. Bush can't afford the PR...
letshunt you are 100% correct unless you look at the current climate in the stock market and interest rates at the bank.

I look at my properties as investments and that's where I'm putting my money now. I don't buy these houses and condos with a downpayment and monthly payments - I buy them outright as a place to live and an investment. The house I live in is paid for and so is my daughter's condo on Sail Bay in San Diego. The place I have at Las Ventanas in Cabo is rented out when I'm not there and has already appreciated $400k in less than six months. Can't get 5% on your money in a bank right now even if you lock it up for 5 years.

You see with my income, all my interest mortgage deductions are phased out 100% on schedule A. It makes no sense for me to have a mortgage if I can't deduct the interest.

Now you say the smart money has their money in stocks. I hope they were all real smart and didn't have any of the stocks of the public companies that lost 7 trillion dollars in the last two years. So if anyone you kow was deep in the market, they got toasted!!


I was never in the market deep. You mention Chrysler, back in the 70's I bought Chrysler at $4 when they were going bankrupt, then the feds came in and bailed them out, sold the stock at $32.

Recently, I rode Yahoo in puts from $180 and the last put I sold was a $15 strike when their stock bottomed at $11 and change.

Was in the initial offering with Paypal at $13 and sold after the merger from Ebay at $69. Did ok on that also. But anyone who's heavily in the market for the past 3 years has gotten destoyed including Warren Buffet and Bill Gates, to the tune of billions. So I question that you feel the bank and stocks are better than real estate, I don't think so.

Now, I also like cars, have quite a few of them including a race car ( http://4viper.com ). Those are my toys and diversions. I buy cars for cash and keep them. So if that's about my ego or something, it's still a lot of fun and I really have a great time out at race track with my kids.

The biggest thing you should do. Claim all of your income to the IRS, use every loophole they allow, pay every dollar you owe and that way you can sleep soundly at night.
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guys like buffet have done pretty well with their stocks. with stocks, you need to have long term goals. real estate is a great investment, but its best to have a mix in different asset classes.
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oh come on

Im sure that can beat Brad's Ferrari, but is that really the point here? Being able to buy A Ferrari, in my book, means you have made it financially. Material positions may not be everything, but if you can afford one, why not buy one?

Every modern day capitalist has most likely dreamed of owning a Ferrari. I am sure if this was not Brad, everyone would be giving the car props, so at least make that clear in your post. But do not dog a Ferrari. Only a women would not be able to make the distinction between a Ferrari and any other cars (no disrespect to the ladies, it's just the facts)

Props to Brad for getting a Ferrari, and props to Fantasyman for having a sweet ass viper(my 2nd most favorite car)
MetaformX - my whole life I thot I liked Ferraris because they are gorgeous. Once I got into road racing with my Viper I found out how sub-standard Ferrari's are on the race circuit. There are very few racing and they always break down and are never competitive. Since I like performance cars, I personally don't like Ferrari's other than their looks. Yes, it a great pussy wagon, but aside from being sexy, they don't perform or handle. I still think Ferrari's are gorgeous, but a waste of money. Their resale value is non-existant

Also, there are many other cars you can buy, if, you need to make a statement that you have made it financially. I hope this explains my comments about Ferrari's, they were not unfounded.
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Old 12-21-2002, 10:21 PM   #63
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guys like buffet have done pretty well with their stocks. with stocks, you need to have long term goals. real estate is a great investment, but its best to have a mix in different asset classes.
Do you know very many folks that have made money in stocks in the last three years? Buffet and Gates have lost billions.
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I found out how sub-standard Ferrari's are on the race circuit. There are very few racing and they always break down and are never competitive.
certainly in many classes of racing.

but they are fucking dominating F1. bigtime. and they've done well in F1 on and off for a very long time.
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Old 12-21-2002, 10:29 PM   #65
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certainly is a pretty car brad.

i guess i've just never really been bitten by the car bug. i have a chevy tahoe. it drives nicely, doesnt break and it's quiet... i find myself much more fascinated by boats.. unfortunately the boats i like make it a million dollar hobby :-(

fm i'm assuming you got rid of the prowler?

anyways, i'm lookin forward to seeing both of you in vegas, please drop by our lil shindig and say hi
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fm i'm assuming you got rid of the prowler?

Absolutely not!! I still have the Prowler, Yukon, 750IL and the SL55.
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Do you know very many folks that have made money in stocks in the last three years? Buffet and Gates have lost billions.
short sellers

but anyways, your portfolio should be evaluated on a more long term basis. there will always be downturns.
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Needless to say, FM wins the Cars and homes contest.

FM, isn't the SL55 like 475HP? That's insane, I gotta get me one of these. I just need to get rid of some of my 6 cars (7 if you consider the secret one I'm getting in March).
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You shit heads and your cars crack me up...I sold a medium sized stockbrokerage for a tidy sum on my 40th birthday...then got bit by the porn bug.

Houses, cars...some pretty sharp investing, guys.

I admit when I was about 25 I bought a 500 series Beamer...and realized that it nothing but a fucking hole in the garage you pour money into. As Serge pointed out, if you lease it you have some latitude in deductions....since stockbrokers usually get audited, you will have to show the nice auditor your travel log and identify what trips were for personal use and which ones are business...keeping in mind that travel to and from work isn't part of the deductability option. Be prepared for the big red IRS marker through that one.

Nice house, now figure in taxes, interest on your loan (which deductable, so you can take 28% of that) maintenance and upgrades and show me your real rate of return, you won't clear 3%.

For the record, I believe I could buy what I want...I am currently driving a rusted out '79 F-250 and live in a two bedroom apartment. Neighbors think I am on welfare...it's fucking great. I do still have a few Armani suits left...but you look pretty funny wearing an Armani suit in beater truck.

Did I mention the bank account and stock portfolio...smart guys got nice thick stock portfolios and plenty of money in the bank. Not penis building cars and guady houses as monuments to their own greatness. Warren Buffet drives a Buick Skylark....

By the way Serge, remember earlier this year I mentioned Cisco was gonna rock....what a two months I have had trading the shit out that.

For you other investors, study the stats on turn around stocks in bankrupcy....then take a hard look at United Airlines. Then think about Chrysler in the exact same situation, it was one of my greatest buys, in the dollar range and I chickened out and sold at 42. UAL is at about a buck, think the govt is gonna let UAL go out of business? Not a chance. Bush can't afford the PR...

please put me on your ICQ contact list at 120838664 . Whenever you get excited about a company, please drop me a message..
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Fantasyman, there is no 2002 BMW 750IL.
get your numbers right next time
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Y'all fucking crack me up.

One arrogant dumbass who turns on everyone who ever held a hand out to him starts a thread calling out someone who's been around even longer. And the guy who got called out, answers the dumbass. And his answer beats what the dumbass started out with. So y'all give the guy who simply answered the call and showed the idiot what he is grief.

So what do we have here? Brad with a 30 year note on his house, a not paid for, not stick shift used Ferrari.

And what do we have on the other side? Ron with a couple mil in paid for property, more paid for and probably stick shift cars than someone else's house is likely worth (keep in mind I am not an appraiser nor have I seen Ron's car collection against the blue book) and that's about what the tally is.

Anyone who knows me OR Ron knows we aren't friends, we aren't friendly acquaintances, and can say whatever they want about my comments to this point.

But you know what? The very things by which Brad, who started this thread, measures his life by, money and toys, well, Ron's got him beat dead to rights and it was Brad's own dumbass fault (in my opinion) for even bothering to call Ron out in a pissing contest he couldn't win if his dick was on fire and he was trying to put it out.

In the end, it's not what you've got, it's what the fuck you get to keep.

Remember that, especially if you ain't got it.
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Y'all fucking crack me up.

One arrogant dumbass who turns on everyone who ever held a hand out to him starts a thread calling out someone who's been around even longer. And the guy who got called out, answers the dumbass. And his answer beats what the dumbass started out with. So y'all give the guy who simply answered the call and showed the idiot what he is grief.

It's a thin line between love and hate...........
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Ferrari should sue him. Four more guys like B.Shaw and everybody will hate this car.
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It's a thin line between love and hate...........
Anyone in this business that's got time to hate isn't making the money they should.

The opposite of love is indifference.
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You guys are such haters. That car is only, what, like $230k? If you make that in a month or less, what does it matter?

And stocks are for suckers, btw.. but UAL is a good buy if you don't have anything else to do with your $.
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230k? ROFL, it's USED.
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so much full-on hate in this thread. wow.
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so much full-on hate in this thread. wow.
No kidding. Everyone should just crack a beer, or joint out and relax!
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Fantasyman -

Thats a nice hookup you have in your '02 Yukon.... I have everything you do except the Direct Tv & supercharger BUT my Denali is sitting on 22"


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230k? ROFL, it's USED.
i'd say its around 180sh
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Awwwwww. Love.. now that's worth more than any expensive house or car.
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Wow, Brads face sure is filling out again, what a shame.
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But you know what? The very things by which Brad, who started this thread, measures his life by, money and toys, well, Ron's got him beat dead to rights and it was Brad's own dumbass fault (in my opinion) for even bothering to call Ron out in a pissing contest he couldn't win if his dick was on fire and he was trying to put it out.

In the end, it's not what you've got, it's what the fuck you get to keep.

Remember that, especially if you ain't got it.
That post singed my eyebrows.
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Old 12-21-2002, 11:36 PM   #87
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Needless to say, FM wins the Cars and homes contest.

FM, isn't the SL55 like 475HP? That's insane, I gotta get me one of these. I just need to get rid of some of my 6 cars (7 if you consider the secret one I'm getting in March).
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Fantasyman, there is no 2002 BMW 750IL.
get your numbers right next time
cude me you're right it's a '01 - I don't like the new 745's
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You said it, I didn't!!

That's the funniest thing I ever saw. If I take pictures of my cars it would be in front of my own house, what a wanabe.

Brad funny thing you posted a picture of this, I toasted a car just like this today in my SL55 but it was a convertible. It wasn't even close. I'm not lying... hahahahahaha!!!

Jack from CyberAge bought a Ferrari too, sexy car, but to resell it is a joke and he realized how slow Ferrari's are, how lousy they handle on turns, and how bad the resale value is on them, only after he bought it.

How's it feel to drive an expensive car that any Mustang or Corvette can destroy and that you can't give away?

Currently I have the Black '03 SL55, '02 BMW 750IL, '02 Yukon with everything but the kitchen sink including direct TV, 13.5 " TV monitors, DVD, VCR, PS2, Xbox and it's SuperCharged and then there's always my race car http://4viper.com - that one came in 7th overall at the 24 hours of Daytone 2000.

But the difference is that my cars are all paid for and you took a 30 year note on that piece of shit and you're stuck with it? roflma hahahahahahhaa

But then again, anyone who would buy a 'practical' Hummer shows how much taste they have in cars to begin with. How's that Hummer in parking lots?
haha I've seen your edifice you call a house, and been inside it... Ron's garage is bigger than that faux house you posted (literally), his library is bigger than half that house, and his movie theater is bigger than a quarter of that house =)

Bradley, you are very insecure, and for good reason. You are a fat, lonely, rancid man.... I bet you're on so many prescription drugs they could kill a horse... I love it =)
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The SL55 is a fantastic car!
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Pass the haterade...

If you got the money, do your thing playboy.

Congrats Brad.

Keep doing what makes you happy FM.

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http://www.bradloveslaura.com/album/...2/IMG_2504.JPG


This pic reminds me of that episode of seinfeld where kramer has the retard shoes on to correct his balance


such a typical domain name for revenge!
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cude me you're right it's a '01 - I don't like the new 745's
Old 7 series were much sporties looking than new ones. New once looks like a big boat. But I love it, front is kinda wierd, by rear is amazing, much more interesing car than S class.
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http://www.bradloveslaura.com/

Awwwwww. Love.. now that's worth more than any expensive house or car.
is it me, or does she have the facial structure of a pale black man, and the ass of a '76 Gremlin ?
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Well, that was a conversation-killer. ^^^
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is it me, or does she have the facial structure of a pale black man, and the ass of a '76 Gremlin ?
Now Keith, don't be rude to her. No matter how you look at it, she's got our expectations beaten already.
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The SL55 is a fantastic car!
without a doubt. i still love the modena (spyder) though...
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fantasyman, OMFG that's your Viper???!!!!!
Do you race it, or you just own it??
Very nice car, but you could do better on the painting.
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Y'all fucking crack me up.

One arrogant dumbass who turns on everyone who ever held a hand out to him starts a thread calling out someone who's been around even longer. And the guy who got called out, answers the dumbass. And his answer beats what the dumbass started out with. So y'all give the guy who simply answered the call and showed the idiot what he is grief.

So what do we have here? Brad with a 30 year note on his house, a not paid for, not stick shift used Ferrari.

And what do we have on the other side? Ron with a couple mil in paid for property, more paid for and probably stick shift cars than someone else's house is likely worth (keep in mind I am not an appraiser nor have I seen Ron's car collection against the blue book) and that's about what the tally is.

Anyone who knows me OR Ron knows we aren't friends, we aren't friendly acquaintances, and can say whatever they want about my comments to this point.

But you know what? The very things by which Brad, who started this thread, measures his life by, money and toys, well, Ron's got him beat dead to rights and it was Brad's own dumbass fault (in my opinion) for even bothering to call Ron out in a pissing contest he couldn't win if his dick was on fire and he was trying to put it out.

In the end, it's not what you've got, it's what the fuck you get to keep.

Remember that, especially if you ain't got it.
KK you're so right and when you own stuff outright, you can't lose it

My home was just appraised a $3.5 million, Cabo is $1.4 million and my daughter's Sail Bay Townhouse is $750k.

I'm now buying $400k-$500k homes to lease out. That's the only place I will put my money.

I cashed out of Rick's stock for another $4 million after receiving another $2 million in cash when they bought XXXPASSWORD.COM and I still make 1/2 the profit for admisinistering it and that's just one of our Paysites.

I would usually never post all this but I'm rusty at pissing and Brad needs some new goals to shoot at
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Old 12-21-2002, 11:59 PM   #100
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Come now Ron, he leased a 3.8 million dollar house here in Phoenix, the one with the maids quarters, surely that counts for something lol ;)
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