Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 16808995)

I apologize if my comments appeared aggressive, that wasn't my intent.

I agree, things change all the time, and that's usually good. But I've heard this HTML 5 battle cry a hundred times all over the Internet, and it's never put into the perspective of reality.

I was doing Flash interface design all the way back in 1997, and trying to get clients to understand the merits of Flash was like beating my head against a brick wall while simultaneously stabbing myself in the eye with a fork.

Here we are 13 years later and everyone finally 'gets it'. Flash isn't the big scary unknown mystery tech they all thought it was. But that had a lot to do with merely overcoming the plugin 'scariness' factor. With HTML 5 we're talking about fully supportive browsers, agreement between collaborators, and the ever growing end-user apathy towards upgrading anything. Most users can't manage to keep spyware off their systems, let alone get themselves off IE6.

So anyway, I just think you're being overly optimistic about HTML 5 replacing Flash any time soon. (and again, if ever). And from reality's perspective, if your goal is to deliver to as many of your users as possible, then of course you have to use the tech that will accomplish that.

That's all.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 16808650)

As I said, where did I suggest that? I didn't, did I? .

Originally Posted by smokeythebear (Post 16809028)

in the thread title :2 cents:

"flash is dead"

if i started a thread that said "george bush is dead" would you assume i meant bush is dead now or bush will eventually die someday ?

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16809028)

in the thread title :2 cents:

"flash is dead"

if i started a thread that said "george bush is dead" would you assume i meant bush is dead now or bush will eventually die someday ?

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 16809098)

I suppose that if someone just read the thread title and not the rest of my post where I simply link to a pretty video clip, then maybe people could get confused about my 'the king is dead long live the king' reference. Conceeded.

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 16808945)

Oh, is THAT what you got so annoyed about. That's a thing people say in monarchies and have done since 1272. The King is dead, long live the king. It's a phrase, or saying.

Headlines are meant to get people's attention.

Worked.

Like the hand egg one.

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 16809118)

i am just annoyed because you are only mentioning this because of the recent apple news where they are not using flash.

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 16807041)

HTML 5 is not going to kill or replace Flash any time soon.
Get used to it.

:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head (Post 16808566)

And when statistics show that IE6 is STILL the most widely used browser out there,

Originally Posted by allanuk (Post 16807329)

Adobe CTO Kevin Lynch Defends Flash, Warns HTML5 Will Throw The Web "Back To The Dark Ages Of Video"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020201812.html

Originally Posted by redwhiteandblue (Post 16809701)

What statistics are those? Not mine.

Originally Posted by AdultSoftwareSolutions (Post 16809718)

Of course he'd say that. It's in his interest.

Unfortunately HTML 5 video is not widely support and there is still some debate about what codec to use. H.264 has some serious licensing issues for something that is supposed to be a standard and the open source codecs don't really compete.

Google acquired On2 a while back and there is some speculation that they will open up VP8. I'm hoping that will be the case.

Originally Posted by weekly (Post 16808985)

Yeah I know you do sweety, maybe cause its always been legal. Don't make me mention that nasty illegal shit you sold for years. Now be a good boy and get back on message. I really hate to see people blow holes in their feet. And you were being so well behaved. So don't be raising shit all over again. Your veneer is very, very thin. And I can see you have lit your own fuse one more time.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 16813360)

Post proof, a retraction, or ask for this to be removed. Alluding to the fact that someone sold something illegal with out proof is grounds for banning.

You have 1 hour!