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Old 12-20-2002, 04:57 PM   #1
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Anybody here is actually for the war ?

If you are, tell us why . Because i don't see why bush would make a war . I never heard a single person that say that he wants war yet .
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My theory is he wants a quick war to stimulate the economy. Long drawn out wars will put the US back into a recession, but a quick win would help. My problem is with him doing it now. All the uncertainty can't be good around Christmas time for retail stocks.
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I think he should at least finish the one he got going after 9/11 before he starts up another one..
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My theory is he wants a quick war to stimulate the economy. Long drawn out wars will put the US back into a recession, but a quick win would help. My problem is with him doing it now. All the uncertainty can't be good around Christmas time for retail stocks.


Im sorry, but you do not go off killing thousands of innocent people to stimulate your fuckin economy.
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I'm for a continuation of a war that started when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

IMO -- that war still continues as Iraq has not lived up to the terms of the CONDITIONAL cease-fire it signed to 'end' the war. Just because there are no bombs being dropped doesn't denote peace time.

The UN should be asking the US to intervene.... not the other way around.

But the UN is comprised of 'peace at all costs' sissy socialites... go figure.
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In case you missed it...

I believe we've been at war with Iraq since they violated the cease fire agreement... this is nothing new.
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Im sorry, but you do not go off killing thousands of innocent people to stimulate your fuckin economy.
Geez, keep telling yourself that...

You can, if you're the president of the USA, do you really think this would be the first time this thing happens?
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For all of you thinking the US making war on any country is just to defend world peace and freedom, think again...

Here's a link that might make you reconsider:
http://www.zmag.org/GlobalWatch/chomskymit.htm

It's about 2 hrs long, but I think the time I spent listening to that was well worth it. Hope it's gonna be well worth it for you too.
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I'm for war.

It will be much better for the longterm to get rid of that problem now. Rather than waiting till he builds up a ton of weapons.

The Iraqi people will be dancing in the streets when that shitead is out of there.
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Oh, and make sure you don't miss the last half-hour or so of questions from the audience, I had a blast hearing some hysterical chick calling Noam Chomsky anti-American.
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Old 12-20-2002, 05:26 PM   #12
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I always thought that war stimulates the economy.

And the US does not go to war to help get our economy moving again. It doesn't work that way.

I'm for war. Iraq needs a new government; One that will take care of it's citzens instead of gassing them.

And.... Who ever said above that we are at war with Iraq, well, your right. They have been shoooting at us, and we've been shooting back at them. That's war.

Funny how they haven't shot down any of our planes.
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Here's a link that might make you reconsider:
http://www.zmag.org/GlobalWatch/chomskymit.htm

It's about 2 hrs long, but I think the time I spent listening to that was well worth it. Hope it's gonna be well worth it for you too.
hehehe, I love Noam Chomsky! He drives the right wing kooks up the wall.
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I always thought that war stimulates the economy.

Iraq needs a new government; One that will take care of it's citzens instead of gassing them.

Like Chile had with Pinochet, gift from the US?
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hehehe, I love Noam Chomsky! He drives the right wing kooks up the wall.
Yeah, too bad he can't drive'em six feet under...
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Yeah, too bad he can't drive'em six feet under...
Yeah -- god forbid anyone doesn't agree with your socialist agenda.
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Like Chile had with Pinochet, gift from the US?
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War is OK with me, it will help get the economy moving again...
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Yeah -- god forbid anyone doesn't agree with your socialist agenda.
Not looking to start a pissing match but... you might wanna look up "socialism" and "socialist" before calling someone a socialist.
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I'm for war.

It will be much better for the longterm to get rid of that problem now. Rather than waiting till he builds up a ton of weapons.

The Iraqi people will be dancing in the streets when that shitead is out of there.
And just who do you think is going to replace Saddam Hussein? Its not just the leader that is the problem, you average arab citizen hates the United States too. Polls in Palestine show that 70-80% of your average joe citizen supports suicide bombing.

So far Saddam appears to have refrained from supplying terrorist organizations with biological weapons. This is probably because he's not a true believer. He doesn't want to be nuked by us because he enjoys his life. The next guy might be a true believer who thinks that he'll go to heaven and get his 72 virgins for setting of an anthrax bomb in downtown San Francisco.

As bad as Saddam is, it could be ALOT worse. The US does not have a good history when it comes to engineering governments.

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War is OK with me, it will help get the economy moving again...
Good thinking... Only a few deads.... Who the fuck cares.

But since we are in the adult business, I suggest we exterminate all women. That should give a boost to our websites....
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Good thinking... Only a few deads.... Who the fuck cares.

But since we are in the adult business, I suggest we exterminate all women. That should give a boost to our websites....
more like DDOS a few websites..
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Good thinking... Only a few deads.... Who the fuck cares.

But since we are in the adult business, I suggest we exterminate all women. That should give a boost to our websites....
Like "Look what you could've had, you fucking moron, now it's too late! Pay to jack off to the memory!"

Would make a shitload of cash, but I'd miss my wife terribly...

Geez, hope I didn't give anyone any ideas.
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And I bet that's the pacifist in you speaking.
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The US does not have a good history when it comes to engineering governments.
Have you ever heard of the countries of Germany, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and there are a few others.
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Would make a shitload of cash, but I'd miss my wife terribly...

Maybe we could all keep one only ..... have to spend that cash.... what better for that than a woman!


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And just who do you think is going to replace Saddam Hussein?
Who ever gets our stamp of approval. The country will be a puppet of the United States for many years to come.
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Who ever gets our stamp of approval. The country will be a puppet of the United States for many years to come.
Riiiiiiiiight.. and how many times has that worked when we've tried it before?

Afghanistan? (Are we on our 2nd or 3rd attempt at puppet governance there now? I forget..)

Iran?

Grenada?

Half of South America?

Libya?

Talk about wishful thinking...

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Something I still don't understand is what the fuck does the US have to do in Iraq? Other then flexing muscles and getting more puppets? It was bad enough during the cold war, now there's only one superpower left and it turns the world upside down pretending to be the (crooked) police...
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Riiiiiiiiight.. and how many times has that worked when we've tried it before?

Afghanistan? (Are we on our 2nd or 3rd attempt at puppet governance there now? I forget..)

Iran?

Grenada?

Half of South America?

Libya?

Talk about wishful thinking...
You forgot about Canada.
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Not looking to start a pissing match but... you might wanna look up "socialism" and "socialist" before calling someone a socialist.
I'm well aware.... who was talkink about burying conservatives again?
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Who ever gets our stamp of approval. The country will be a puppet of the United States for many years to come.
lets just hope it doesn't turn into another Saudi Arabia. (you know... the place that most of the s/11 terrorists came from) For all Saddam's large faults.. he at least keeps the muslim fundamentalists at bay... there is a serious risk of creating a vacuum of ideological power that an islamic revolution could fill.. or at the very least operate under the facade of an American installed puppet state. I'd be happier if Bush was actually chasing the guys that did the bombing and not creating a distraction in Iraq.
I have serious misgivings as to whether this will create fewer future terrorists..
I would rather they tactical nuke each of his 13 palaces simultaneously without warning or other similar attempt on his life than all out war which will only hurt iraqi civilians more.

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I'm well aware.... who was quoting Chomsky again?
Trust me, you're not. And you just proved your narrow-mindedness calling me a socialist for MENTIONING Chomsky's lecture (I never quoted him). But hey, I'm sure you must be getting a big kick out of being ignorant.

And FYI, I'm a liberal, not a socialist, there's a BIG difference. Look it up, if you're not aware of it.
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For those who want a war... Dump your own families into the middle of it and it may focus you mind as to what it means.

And... since it is easy to sit on our asses and make some "dirty pics" all day long without "fronting up" on a battlefield, give some thought to the, often young men and women, ya propose sending to fight a war on your behalf while ya make some more "websites".

I know a few of these "young men and women" and I sure don't want to see them going into any war on the basis of "nuthing".

Otherwise shut the fuck up
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I'm well aware.... who was talkink about burying conservatives again?
Haha, ok, I take back calling you ignorant, at least you had the presence of mind to edit your post. Unfortunately NOT before I could quote it.
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And FYI, I'm a liberal, not a socialist, there's a BIG difference. Look it up, if you're not aware of it.
No in this day and age there isn't. I assume you are for (socialist) programs such as welfare, Medicare, social security, federal funding of education, universal healthcare etc....

If I'm wrong... I'm wrong.

Just tell me the ones you oppose...

then tell me which ones aren't socialist.
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*I assume you are for (socialist) programs such as welfare, Medicare, social security, federal funding of education, universal healthcare etc.... *

Fuck me! *lol*... Hell.. ya sure need some kinda "healthcare" system there - it's a fucking disgrace! Don't think I'd be bothering whether a socialist, republican, communist sorted it - even some "third world" countries have higher ratings on healthcare than the US - meaningful
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For those who want a war... Dump your own families into the middle of it and it may focus you mind as to what it means.

And... since it is easy to sit on our asses and make some "dirty pics" all day long without "fronting up" on a battlefield, give some thought to the, often young men and women, ya propose sending to fight a war on your behalf while ya make some more "websites".

I know a few of these "young men and women" and I sure don't want to see them going into any war on the basis of "nuthing".

Otherwise shut the fuck up
I wasn't a really a young man, but I fought in the first gulf war and if I had not been injured and my career cut short, I would still be in the Military and would be more than willing to fight in another gulf war. Those young men and women do not go to war based on "nuthing" they took an OATH and 99.99% of them will uphold the oath they took.
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Old 12-20-2002, 06:48 PM   #45
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No in this day and age there isn't. I assume you are for (socialist) programs such as welfare, Medicare, social security, federal funding of education, universal healthcare etc....

If I'm wrong... I'm wrong.

Just tell me the ones you oppose...

then tell me which ones aren't socialist.
Let's put it this way:

WORK - EAT!
DON'T WORK - STARVE!

Either that or beg me for some food.

But we're drifting away from the topic here, this has got nothing to do with US starting a war against Iraq.
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No in this day and age there isn't. I assume you are for (socialist) programs such as welfare, Medicare, social security, federal funding of education, universal healthcare etc....

If I'm wrong... I'm wrong.

Just tell me the ones you oppose...

then tell me which ones aren't socialist.
Sorry, but none of those things are socialist in and of themselves. If all of them were taken to the extreme, then, maybe, collectively, you'd have something resembling real socialism.

I'm afraid yours is a surprisingly common form of idiocy in less educated right wing circles. Like any good sheep, you know that to be a right wing kook in good standing you have to hate certain things. Welfare, universal heathcare/insurance, seperation of Church and State, and so on. The problem is, you aren't intellegent enough to form articulate arguments against them. So, as a substitute for the intelligent argumentation of which you are incapable, you try to win using the childish tactic of slapping labels on things.. as if they very act of saying it magically made what you were labeling bad. Psychologists like to call this "magical thinking" or "emotional thinking", but I think idiocy is just as good.

Problem is that the only people that works on are fellow right wingers, and even then only those stupid enough to have irrational, knee jerk reactions to the word "socialist"

Go back to your Rush Limbaugh, sheep.

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Fuck me! *lol*... Hell.. ya sure need some kinda "healthcare" system there - it's a fucking disgrace! Don't think I'd be bothering whether a socialist, republican, communist sorted it - even some "third world" countries have higher ratings on healthcare than the US - meaningful
Here is a wonderful idea... you worry about you country and I'll worry about mine.

But don't get out of line or your country may become part of mine... LOL

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Lensman should rename this board, what about
"Commie Pinko Idiots", seems we have lots of them around lately
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Here is a wonderful idea... you worry about you country and I'll worry about mine.

But don't get out of line or your country may become part of mine... LOL


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I'm for a continuation of a war that started when Iraq invaded Kuwait.

IMO -- that war still continues as Iraq has not lived up to the terms of the CONDITIONAL cease-fire it signed to 'end' the war. Just because there are no bombs being dropped doesn't denote peace time.

The UN should be asking the US to intervene.... not the other way around.

But the UN is comprised of 'peace at all costs' sissy socialites... go figure.
For once I agree with you...
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