Oh yes
 

Oh yes, and guys from CCbill reading this: I am not getting new program signup notification email anymore. Please check.

thanks

sales with ccbill down here too...

This month is worse for all merchants...

My CCbill program is cascaded.. me and my affiliates have nothing to complain on this matter.

i m suffering as well last 10 days pathatic

Can you please ICQ me, I have a question for you!

Every time there's one of these threads about CCBill I always look at my ratio for the month and it's always around 1:900 and so I just think, "meh".

But this month for the first time, my CCBill sales are down by about 50%....I literally would have expected double the CCBill sales I have so far. My other sponsors don't seem to be suffering too badly so something doesn't seem right.

can you contact me? lets look at this

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[email protected]

This usualy happens due to "bayesian probability" algorithms in their chargeback prevention system.

from wikipedia:

"Bayesian probability is one of the most popular interpretations of the concept of probability. The Bayesian interpretation of probability can be seen as an extension of logic that enables reasoning with uncertain statements. To evaluate the probability of a hypothesis, the Bayesian probabilist specifies some prior probability, which is then updated in the light of new relevant data. The Bayesian interpretation provides a standard set of procedures and formula to perform this calculation."

In other words ( in the case of payment processors ) : based on a number of factors the software predicts that chances are really high that a chargeback will occur thus it does not allow the transaction...

I had this happening 2 times with zombaio... as a reason for the declined transaction it said "Bayesian probability" :Oh crap ... apparently these checks are very common in payment processor risk management software.

My CCbill Ratios


October 1:499
Nov 1:414
December 1:383
January 1 thru 22 : 1:348
Jan 22 thru 5 mins ago: 1:679


This is a couple hundred sales per month. Number of new signups, not dollars.

:2 cents:

i just tried the same join process from my home computer and it was successful the first time with the same card i tried from my office before

Our clickbank, paypal, and misc. sales have outpaced our CCBill sales for the past couple of years. We've also seen a huge rise in declined transactions too.

one more bug
 

There is also one more issue just found. I've got email notification about new sale, but salw is not there in CCbill stats. I've talked to support, and they told me that my ID is there and that it should be in account in few hours!? and if it is not there I shoud contact them later.

what if you had a ratio of 1:220? and now you see a ratio like that you have now?

My CCBill sales are also weird this month. Looking at finally setting secondary and tertiary billing with them, however, so that may be my issue. December was pretty awesome.

I have a specific question I would appreciate an answer to:

Using regional billing on a US based site billing at 29.95, if a surfer from canada clicks on the sign up page it will display 34.change (CAD) right?

Now if that same surfer clicks the US flag to see US currency does it show 31.change (USD)?

It did when I checked on my cell phone earlier. So if I advertise 29.95 on my site and a canadian or european check out the form a bit they will realize that they are actually getting charged a higher USD amount then advertized. Right?

Was the way currency displays in this fashion a recent change?

Ohhh boy this is happening to me right now... Got the new sale email but if haven't showed up in admin... Guess I'll wait for a few hours...

FYI: When I use to get them emails and log onto admin... The sale is usually right there... :disgust

Hmmm.... interesting to see so many others echo the call. Any solutions? Anyone? Anything your trying working out?

Sometimes the system makes a mistake and you get a sale email for an old sale again, even 1 day old. Happened to me, too.

So far this payweek I've only had rebills. Last week I got no sales till Thursday :(

i am notcing a huge drop in sales for past 2 weeks. ccbill is not looking good

what are you form hits like.. I was just asking a friend of mine a couple of days ago..

my traffic is up.. and last week my sales where up.. but this week I have more traffic than last week.. but less sales ( for the last 3 or 4 day).. and the problem is my forms hits..

Yey! I am not just alone.

CCBill sales really sucks these days

If you have regional billing activated on a $29.95 USD price point a Canadian will see $34.32 CAD (if you are using CCBill's default recommended ratio)
If he clicks on the US currency he will see $31.77 USD

IF you don't have regional billing activated on a $29.95 USD price point the Canadian should first see $32.36 CAD and if he clicks the US currency should see $29.95 USD

If you do choose to activate regional billing I would not advertise your price anywhere on the tour. That way they will not figure out that you are charging more for non US based customers.

Personally I do not use regional billing. I don't think it is a good idea.

Also, remember that the use of "Global Forms" (the diff flags) is not using regional billing. Global Forms just displays the currency depending upon where the user is from.

Cheers,
BV

All sales are sucking these days, not just CCBill sales. :2 cents:

I'm yanking it from one of my sites. A customer outside the country obviously would realize that they may be getting charged a little more but I did not realize they could see exactly the USD amount to the penny on the day of transaction.

Why would a european surfer ever join if they knew they were getting charged $11 and change more per month and displayed in an easy to follow format?

When regional billing first started I noticed no change in the number of sales (just more money), now I do. That could be a reason, not sure.

me too :(

Yeah, this month every merchant is having worse sales, 3rd party or not.

This is sort of my stance as well.

Euro customers know that when they buy US stuff that their money is worth more and they get a better deal.

Just like when US people go to Mexico to buy stuff or vacation cheaper. It's not really rocket science.

Furthermore, when my affiliates advertise my prices on their site, like ie: review sites, they often list the price point in the review and ratings. So if a Euro customer joins off that link they might get turned off after they hit my site if I had regional billing.

But in regards to your statement. If you have regional billing activated, and did not have the price listed on the tour. The only prices that they will see are the regional prices in US and Euro or whatever country. and they will all equal the same amount. The only way they would know any difference is if you had the reg US price advertised on your tour. or like on a review site etc, as i explained above.

It's a complicated subject to talk about and explain. There are a few long threads about it here that might help.

My ratios are better than ever! Thank you google for downgrading my PR rating. I've never made so much money! :D

ccbill sales still suck here, other sponsor sales and ratios holding steady

Wow, thanks for the heads up on the regional billing situation, I am now looking into this-

The way I always justified the regional billing is if it costs $100 per week to live where I am, and $120 to live in another, salaries are higher elsewhere, cost of living higher elsewhere, then my site is higher as well.

That is fine, I just don't want the surfer to "EASILY" be advised of the conversion USD dollar amount. That's just ridiculous.

I do have it on one site, not the other. It is not as easy to just remove it because of a 3rd party processor involved as well.

Also, just a heads up. It is not that easy to remove it either, there is a bug in admin.

Dear CCbill,
SUCK A BAG OF DICKS.
:2 cents:

I would like nothing more than to NOT see all of these CCBill threads continue into February.

The CCBill guys need some serious PR to start up right away, with some credible and verifiable upgrades and fixes to take place ASAP.

Some of the recent issues have been speculative, some have been blatantly false, but WAY too many of the issues have been actual.

This effects trust, and has an effect as to what programs affiliates care to push.

CCBILL, if you are reading this, do NOT delay! Get your shit together, and start posting some credible PR stuff before this gets worse.

I really hope these posts do not continue into next month.

So what happened? Did it finally show up?

Good question... :2 cents:

dude, sales are down right now for everyone, every processor, every site
not just ccbill, believe me

i talk to a lot of different site owners and am hearing it right from the horses mouth
the majority of sponsors aren't going to come on here and say their sales are down, it's bad for the business of attracting new affiliates and traffic

hearing it from affiliates opens up a whole new list of variables to take in consideration and i'm not going to start listing them here in this post

sales are down right now, its a trend on top of the shitty trend we already had going