we are talking about 275k emails here fatman, not 275million.. optin no less.. he would generate no more than 10-20 complaints to his host or even less... and the bandwidth he use, lol 70 terabytes.. his host will probably call him up and say that the complaints are great, and to keep them comming. In other words, he is to valuable of a customer to term over such a small amount of SPAM SPAM SPAM!
sleazy, stick to what you are somewhat good at, giving away free porn, and let the mailers that have a little bit better idea of what to expect offer the advice.

lol indeed

Ehhh you read the terms....it says it doesn't allow the good old
mail away spamming.....but it does allow opt-in spaming.

DynaMite

you need to define your terms,if something is opted in its not unsolicitied which means its not spam...

LOL yeah right......when was the last time that you checked your
email?

DynaMite

Good point, I guess the more popular your site is the more links you have and the more ways the spiders can find your email.

If I got to that point, I would consider letting everyone I cared about know my new email address and do it until I were sure most everyone had it and then stop downloading the old email.

quiet -

I would offer them a special introductory rate, or even free access to an area for a period of time (no credit card etc.), maybe even just 5-10 links to your galleries (not a full series, but from different sections).

Then, if the expired members that log in to the free area want to, they can sign up at the cheaper introductory rate of maybe 2 months for the price of 1 (or half-price).

Then, if they sign up for a membership send them a thank you email and ask them if there's anything they'd like to see. If they don't sign up after logging in to the free area (say their email login expires after 3 days), then send them another email and thank them for checking out your site again, and ask them why what more you could do for them to sign up, and also offer maybe an even better introductory rate? 3 months for the price of 1?

Just some ideas.. Contact me if you'd like...

Cheers,
Matt

Uhm? Was my suggestion bad or something? It feels as if no one ever replies to my advice. Am I transparent? Or do I simply give such good ideas that they whisk you away.... yeah.............

Cheers,
Matt

well, i was only interest in the logistics, and possible problems with sending out that kind of email volume.

i'm not looking for marketing advice :) anyway, 300 non-trial signups is not worth that kind of effort. that's not even 2 days worth of signups.

but all input is appreciated... thanks.

I believe p1mpdogg's calculations of 300 signups was off, simply for the reason that he didn't even calculate percentage properly.

Lets analyze the 350,000 from expired members.

Positives of the emails - We know for a fact that these folks have used their credit card, and asssume that they signed up because they liked your type of content.

Negatives to look at - These people cancelled for one reason or another.

Considering SE traffic will give you targetted keyword traffic, though not targetted for credit card users, ratios seem to vary from 1:100 to 1:200. I'd like to suggest that because your emails are targetted categorially as well as previously using their credit card, and even more so using their credit card on your site, that the ratio would be from 1:50 to 1:100. Of course there will be emails that no longer work, and possibly some chargebacks (?) mixed in there, but that is part of the 1:50 to 1:100 gap.

So assuming 1:50 to 1:100 signup ratio (throughout 2 mailings potentially, such as I suggested above) would bring 3500 to 7000 signups.

300 signups seems extremely low for 350,000 emails, especially since they are targetted, and previously have used credit cards to signup, and to your site.

Just my thoughts... Anyone want to hire me as a miracle man? I'm full of knowledge and intellectual speculation. ;)

Icq 129060301, email [email protected]

Cheers,
Matt

Not ALL people will READ the email, and from the people who do read it, not everyone will click to see his tour.

From the people who will click to see his tour, 1:80 will likely join.

Quiet, expect under 100 signups from such a mailing.

Nysus Pimpdog is a big spammer and probably knows his shit.
3500-7000 is WAY OFF.

firstly just cause you send 350,000 doesn't mean those emails are going to hit the persons inbox, filters block porn spam etc. Lots will be lost there, plus the list is going to have a certain % of delete and unused emails in there that need cleaning out. Then the emails that get past the filters will hit the inboxes and most of these customers will be recieving a shitload of spam already anyways so many will be lost as usual spam deletion, then others who find the email will not be interested anymore and will delete it. And so the others that then click on the link will goto the website and then you'll get your 1:100 ratios.

No idea what % would be left but its not going to be anywhere near 100%. I mean you spam out 100,000 emails your going to have something like a click ratio of 0.25-0.50, thats 500 or so people out of 100,000 emails.

Who knows what the results will be i'm only guess myself. I'll have to try emailing my members list soon and find out. :)

Sammy

Thanks for your replies.

In rsponse, I'd like to mention that I think there would be a higher click to the email itself, due to all the people receiving the email, will probably remember going to a site with quiet's site name, and so if the subject included it "News for Super Duper Sex Members! Since you cancelled your membership..."

and then continue in the email "Since you cancelled your membership, we have added hundreads of hours of various movies.." blah blah blah....

I now realize my calculations were off because I forgot the click ratio on viewing emails, and also to the site. An email could be made into an html page similar to quiet's site, which I think would have more higher clicks in itself... all that would have to be worked out though.

.... yeah.

Cheers,
Matt

Of course spamming works. Why do you think we all get so much of it every frickin day. I've fallen for some of those free business magazine subscriptions. Then you find out you have to fill in a survey a mile long that takes an hour of your time to complete to get the free mag.

Its all numbers. You can sell anything in this day and age. There are buyers for even the most stupidest of products and services.

Send a million e-mails out and even if you are selling dog shit to go I guarantee someone will place an order.

well quiet, if you are not going to mail them, sell them :)

hell if they're from a certain processor they are already out there a ton of times to hear people tell it...

Sleazy, darling, get a bigger delete key and get on with life :)

If you want a custom solution that you will be happy with for sending the emails I know some really smart coders that I trust (they coded the email software from scratch -- custom solution for some bigtime spammer) they would probably kiss ass to do biz with you... let me know ICQ#1622420 We will be in Vegas 2 :) ICQ#1622420

1/5 of 1 percent - that would be 1 in 500 conversion ratio for a "dumb" harvested mail list. I don't think so! You might get 1 in 5,000 to 1 in 50,000, maybe.

But I've never tried it. Keep in mind you'd not only have to send the spam from a banana republic, but also move your server there.

That is my biggest problem with people selling email lists - they forget to mention that if you use their product, you loose your server in 48 hours - not just the account you sent your spam from, but the web site mentioned in it too.

how do you find new clients then?

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maybe you'd like to sift through my email every day. they are stealing my time. I'd like to see every damn spammer put in jail.

I would like to see a CHARGE for all email use. a penny an email. it would stop 99% of all spam, and any spam I'd receive would be targeted to me and there'd probally have a high chance that I'd be interested in it.

Why the fuck should I have to delete 1000 mortage and life insurance applications a day that I can't even POSSIBLY EVER use? not to mention the porn ones..............

it takes just as long to hit the forward key as it does the delete key sweetie :)

The key is delivering all the emails. As it stands now. brightmail is making it nearly impossible to hit hotmail, yahoo, and aol accounts effectively.

As theFly said you need a custom coded solution or you can pay for someone to deliver the emails for you, with tracking, so you can see how many were delivered, opened, etc.

If you need this type of solution, I have probably the most reliable solution available for $200 per million delivered.

I guess you could expect to generate 6k in new sales off a decent 3 million list.

spammers are bad. Bush will get em. Bush will get em all.

TGP's giving out Free Porn ARE BAD!!.....Bush wil get em.... Bush will get em all.

Sammy

You've spent at least an hour posting about this you know. You could have been done deleting for the day...

Bulk email?

Waste of time...lots of heat and NO money.


honest.......

stick to making galleries;))

I'm always buying lists , just to look at , so if you have any....icq 8042030

:)

I could have a life too... :arcadefre

Bulk email?

Waste of time...lots of heat and NO money.


honest.......

stick to making galleries;))
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I agree 100% , but if anyone here does do alot of emailing , I know of some people that would love your traffic , contact me on icq 48277673 or aim sexpromotegreg
Also always interested in email lists

and you can count your free-porn-giving self right in with that batch is my guess :/


dude I agree, tons of crap spam is bad, and eventually it will die off....a little, through filtering more likely than legislation.... look at what happened to the engines?

all the old engine spammers are doing what now? now that most of the engines went 'bought out'....they're emailing....and when email shuts down a bit, and becomes a 'pay to play' game they will move onto something else...

Spammers is suckers of course, but i know guy who got 169 signs from 10000 emails. Niche spam is pretty cool :thumbsup :)

spammers are bad they make all the $$$$$$$$ hehehehhe

Interesting old thread. :)

definitely :glugglug

not really that old though...

a good thread, that's really old:

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...t=ultra+s kin