AtlantisCash

should i answer such a person with keyboard warrior personality?

i m undecided...

AtlantisCash

crime is a crime,

if You wher an official when You caught a criminal You wouldn't pannish him based on His/Her race or religion, You would do that based on the crime itself.

i m keep saying that but You are keep insisting on Your pointless arguement.

VikingMan

Excuse me but WFT is she doing living in Norway in the first place. Norway is for Norwegians. Thank you very much.

AtlantisCash

Hitler's claim was also similar and lots of Jews and other people from other races has been suffered, go figure.

VikingMan

Oh god are you fucking serious??? Europeans have a right to continue their way of life without being invaded and have their culture destroyed.

AtlantisCash

who the fuck talks about invading, look at the threadtitle.

Platinumpimp

So far, you are the only one in this thread that doesn't understand what this is truely about.

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geirlur

There's nothing about this in Norwegian media

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AtlantisCash

i m the op and yet i m the person who doesn't understand the what this thread is about?

a wrong event happened but some bastards are here no brave enough to say this was wrong.

everybody thinks his garden is so clean but other are fucked up.

bunch of nonsense things have been said here, how muslims in ghettos act etc, but nobody tried to understand that a family has been bitten and one of them was a woman who is almost tortured cruelly.

for the ghettos i told You, send back those uneducated fuckers back to where they come from as long as they don't wanna improve or integrate in to community, what You want me to say more?

Europe's mistake was allowing uneducated bumpkins to the come in their country.

the alternative way would be accepting only the educated people who wants to integrate and live like anybody else.

v4 media

Spains' got more problems with Romanians and Albainians/Kovosks than North Africans crime wise.

MetaMan

we want you to stand up and do something about it. but muslims are weak they try to distance themselves from a problem that is their own and expect the rest of the world to deal with it. well this is what happens when you want the rest of the world to deal with it.

if the majority of ukrainians in calgary were pieces of shit i wouldnt walk around and wonder why people dislike us.

muslims want to have their own rules and own laws, so let them and stop looking at the rest of the world as judging you when you should really be looking at yourself and the people you respresent.

you people do 0 to change it, just brand the others as "extremist" when really to the rest of the worlds view the majority of you as having extreme views. and when majority rules well shit like this is bound to happen.

MetaMan

When my grandparents came to Canada after the war they just wanted to work and live a normal peaceful life and not try to change anything in Canada. Muslims show up and immediately try to work the system wherever they are. they do not want to assimilate they want their own society within a society. so let them. and the first step is getting their own paramedics.

ToBad

What can I say... We have a Turkish boy sending mail bombs to swedish journalist that explode and the Turkish goverment refuse to help the swedish police to get him stand trial in sweden after he went home again.

AtlantisCash

You do something for stopping USA army from occupying muslim countries, if You can be successful, i will do something also to stop these radical son of bitches.

AtlantisCash

Wrong, i wouldn't want to be governed under the religious laws, if someone wants it, kick them shit out of the country then they can go and live where ever they are happy then we are all fine.

afterwords, i think i need to repeat my question, do You agree with a man using his power on a woman?

baddog

Worst streaming ever.

So, where in that video do you see anyone being beaten?

Horny Joe

THis is just so much bullshit! If the turks could learn how to behave, instead of screaming to the emergency central, asking them to fuck of... And the "police stormed in, beat and tortured them"...... What can I say, but LOL

That being said: - that incident was not handled in the best way, but afaik no one was being beaten up and DEF: no torture!

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MetaMan

we are talking about norway you stupid fuck. that is you peoples' problem you take anything and turn it into an excuse to use violence.

i am talking about the muslims in norway handling their own problem. that has nothing to do with the USA.

whats next you are going to bomb someone for breathing Mohammed's air?

uh you idiot these slums are FULL of people who believe in a seperate society. trust me if they could kick them all out they would. hell there would be maybe 5% of the muslim population left if they followed those rules.

using his power on a woman in what way? you dont even make sense.

Luscious Media

I see two people being arrested and resisting arrest. No torture, no beatings. Had that woman lunged at a cop in the U.S. like she did there she would have been thrown to the ground and kneeled on, just like the man who is resisting in the video. Granted the old woman is inside dying and they're upset about that.

Here's the rub. You ask, what if this was your mother? If it were my mother I would put my hands behind my back and plead with the officers to help her AFTER I was cuffed.
I would be aware of the fact that I live in a neighborhood that paramedics and police are afraid to come into. I would realize that I need to be calm and assure the police they are safe. But that's me.

This is an unfortunate incident brought about by numerous factors. What it boils down to is preservation of life. In this case the paramedics chose their lives over that of the old woman.

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marketsmart

i saw no beating in that video..

i was actually hoping to see a beating..

nothing better than watching a muslim get beaten...

i was left feeling unfulfilled....

Jensen

Agree with that. Two sides to every story. I'm sorry that the woman died but if the relatives acted friendly and assisted the paramedics on phone maybe she could have been saved. I don't get the turks getting upset over this hounestly.

Darkland

Are you kidding me? The only thing that I got from those articles was a bunch of contradictions and inconsistencies. It is quite funny how the story grew from your first link to your last.

In the first link it said that only a Turkish man was beat.
In the second link it said that only a Turkish woman was beat.
(Even funnier was the fact that both these links use the same name "Fedai Ujarli" in their articles for the person beaten but the second changed the gender)
In the third link it said a whole Turkish Family was beat.

Common sense and logic tells you that this is sensationalism of the highest order. Look how the story morphs and is twisted the further it gets from the source.

They don't want to report the news, they want to generate more dissidence and hate in their readers through misrepresentation of the facts.

Sorry... I saw no one being beaten in that video. What I did see is two people resisting arrest. Is this whole incident unfortunate? Yes it is.

But these are the facts:

1. The paramedics feared for their safety. Something many of the articles are leaving out so they can better sensationalize the story. In many countries, including the USA, most medical professionals or safety professionals will NOT assist or enter into a potentially hazardous scenario until it is clear that the area or situation is safe to do so.

2. The family members actions completely set up the events that unfolded. If they hadn't talked to emergency services they way they did on the phone, had they kept their heads and emotions in check to allow the police to escort the emergency crew in, this whole situation would have ended quite differently and the mother might have survived.

3. The interviews with the family after are also VERY VERY embellished.

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AtlantisCash

Too much Uzo?


Repeat after me, "Macedonians are not Greeks!"

baddog

Where is the beating in the video you posted?

vending_machine

I lived in Norway for 19 years before moving to the US. Trust me, if there's any evidence of racist behavior there will be repercussions to those involved. Norway loves to debate ethical issues to no end..

Now let's look at what really happened according to several news stories in Norway:
- Old lady gets ill.
- Family members call 911
- 911 feels that the callers are threatening and decide to dispatch police to assist with the medical staff
- Police arrive and the relatives of the lady get aggressive, resulting in police having to subdue them
- Before the medics get to the old lady, she dies.

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AtlantisCash

The unluckiness is i can't find the exact video i watched on TV, this video i have posted was about Turkiye gives Note to Norway.

on the other hand, their mother is having a hart attack, they're in the bad mode due to paramedics were late.

my curiosity is, if that was an ordinary Norway citizen who cursed and yelled on the phone, same scenario would be happened?

probably not.

i don't agree with being harsh to emergency service though, nothing could be an excuse for such behavior to a family.

AtlantisCash

See the post above.

»Rob Content«

Ok, I just watched the video, and why is the video not from the start, what did that man do that had him on the ground with the police there? You want to speak in facts, let's discuss why the police had the man on the ground face down in the snow.... So what you are saying is the police came and asked what the situation was, he said my mother in law is having a heart attack and they put him face down in the snow and handcuffed him? Do you have proof of this.

I see in the video the woman come out and the one police officer hold her arms and then she started fighting him, her jacket came off and she was resisting them. I don't care if you are male or female or where in the world you are, but if a police officer has you in custody and you try to get away from them you are going to get roughed up, any rational person would know and understand this.

Anywhere in the world if you are going into a hostile area, an area where the police need to secure the area before the medics can come and do their job it's going to create an interesting situation. Ask yourself why the police where their to begin with. The answer is simple, if the ambulance had come to help the woman in need there is a very strong chance that they would have had to send another ambulance out to take care of what would of happened to the paramedics that came to begin with.. Why is this, because the people in that area sadly have very little respect for anyone but their own. Being safe will always come first. If those people in that area want to be treated like a normal and an equal, then they must adapt and respect the way that country works.

You cannot come there, have zero respect for the people who are supposed to help you, and have them thinking "how can I save this life if I fear for my own?"

Bottom line, the police were sent there for a reason.

The guy was face down in the snow for a reason.

The woman resisted the police and the situation escalated for a reason.

The blame for the woman not getting the attention she needed and ending up dead is the blame of the people in her neighborhood, the ones who have no respect for those who are there to help.

You keep saying the woman did not deserve to die, and that is true, and I will agree, but also the paramedics have family's as well, and they do not deserve what very much could of happened to them if they showed up to help that woman without police securing the area first. There is a reason that is procedure for them.

Lastly,

That woman died because of her peers in that area. If they had self control and respect, the area would not be that way. Instead of doing the easy thing and pointing at the "white man" and getting the easy press and everything that comes with it, they should go to the people in their area and say "we cannot live like this, we are making fools of our self and it's only going to get worse..."

The next heart attack is going to have the same result until the people in their area adapt and grow respect.

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AtlantisCash

ha
this was my idea also, thats why i said it's sad to see this is coming from such a nice country.
ha

but again if ever that happened here, i can guess what kind of accusations we would get.





i was also wondering what Norwegian media says about it, Thank You.

OY

That is how I read it via Norwegian news too. And yes, I am Norwegian.

Weird story all in all.

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chupachups

Fuck this really gets me ticking....

The response? Unni Wikan, a social anthropology professor at the University of Oslo says,

"Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it."

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baddog

So it is all bullshit. As I thought.

fatfoo

"It is astonishing that Norway that criticizes all countries including Azerbaijan for an insignificant violation would rather care about its own state of democracy."

- I believe it appears to be that Norwegian people in this article react too harshly and too brutal to an insignificant breaking of a rule.

- It's like saying, "Don't walk on the grass, or we will break your leg."

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fatfoo

Now - I dont understand why she is talking about rape. The article says that the women were severly beaten. That's not rape - that's physical assault.

Provocative dresses would not lead someone to be beaten up, I think.

Provocative dresses could lead to rape, maybe.

Some might argue that beating and rape are the same thing for the woman being abused.

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fatfoo

Maybe a sadistic man gets sexual satisfaction out of violently beating a woman? I don't know.

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marketsmart

i miss Hitler.. he really had the right idea when it came to getting rid of the undesirables...

just a punk

I don't want to argue about the thread's topic (of course beating of a woman is not something to be proud of) but(!!!) I was in Turkey many times and I have to admit: most Turkish men have no respect to a women. Especially to European (non-Turkish) ones. It looks like they threat every white female as a slut.

P.S. Nothing personal.

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The Usual Suspect

Look you piece of fucking shit, you are MUSLIM, you are RELIGIOUS!

By DEFAULT that makes you unable to make ratíonal reasoning.

RELIGION DEFIES LOGIC!!!

So get the fuck out of here, and suck you mullah's cock before you make any kind of rational statement or thought. YOU ARE RELIGIOUS!!!! YOU ARE STUPID BY DEFAULT!

YOU let OTHER people rule your one and only chance of life. How fucking pathetic can you be? Fucking idiot, die and let the rest of us charis life.

Agent 488

who cares.

BAKO

Turks Killed over 2 million armenians and nobody gives a fuck till this day.

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The Usual Suspect

Go whore somewhere else.

Matt 26z

The first two links are Arab sites.

The third link is from London, but the person who wrote it can't speak English. They are probably a Middle Easterner living in London.

So we have one side of the story, which almost certainly is about 5% accurate given the circumstances.

And really, Muslims have no business living outside of the Middle East. They don't want westerners stepping foot in their countries, yet many of them can't wait to leave their shithole countries and move into Europe.

Matt 26z

This makes a lot more sense.

In the US it isn't uncommon for paramedics to be accompanied by police into ghettos either.

VikingMan

Great post. But this is one guy who certainly gives a fuck about what happened to my Armenian friends. Every person on this planet should research what was done to the Armenian people and who did it to them.

LoveSandra

Retarded cops

AtlantisCash

even total Turkiye's population was around 13 million at the mid 1920s, where did You find 2 million Armenians?

You said Armenians killed by Turks, how many Turks killed by Armenians?

You exiled from Turkiye because Armenian gangs were attacking Turk villages a specially in Erzurum city and those gangs were co operating with the opposite side in WWI.

i know people from Erzurum city, one of them's grandma could survived after world war i. and she said while Russians treated them nicely, their neighbors (Armenians) were attacking them.

after 3 years later 1918, first business of Armenian army is being occupying Azerbaijan Turk's capital city Baku, GOD knows what happened there.

18 years ago in 1992 You fought with Azerbaijan Turks due to Karabag matter.

You cut connection of Hocali area's to the world, You weren't even shy to kill innocent women, children, babies and You have done there an exact massacre.

i don't even include in the list the torture and rape events done by Armenian army in there.

today there are 1 million people who had to leave there homes to the karabag and had to migrate other areas of the country, these Turks live in very difficult conditions.

do You know because of whom?

Answer: because of You greedy Armenians.

Our historians offered Your scientists to found a committee and discuss about the 1915 events, did You accept? no.

because You like to feed western countries with bullshit.

now go troll somewhere else, this is not an "Armenian whining" topic, You fucking tool

AtlantisCash

the message i have posted above is good for You also.

AtlantisCash

Slow down cowboy, do You always throw insults to the person You don't know?

how do You know i m a conservative?

who told You all Muslims are conservative or all Turks are religious?

AtlantisCash

i don't know the first link, but second link is not an arab site, it's the site has been done by Azerbaijan Turks and they are (Turanoid/Mongoloid) like me, we have no racial connection with arabs, we came from Siberia.

for the thing You said about Muslims doesn't want western people coming there country is wrong.

i m studying together with bunch of people from different countries and religions, Western people coming here a specially with Erasmus and American programs.

we are friendly with them, no problem between us.

You can easily see even couples in relationship, dating or a few of them got married.

other then this, there are western people who lives in Antalya which is located on south (a specially Germans).