PPC SE traffic WTF?? - GoFuckYourself.com

sexmanic · 12-17-2002, 03:01 AM

In the quest to get paying customers to my site, I have tried just about everything, SE traffic was good but time consuming and moody - and free traffic is a huge time whore for a newb. So, I now buy PPC SE traffic from a bunch of places and make enough to at least keep doing this full time.

But, you'd think this stuff would be if anything, predicatable. Anyone have any insight to why PPC SE traffic has such a varying success rate please enlighten - is it the traffic or the product?

I first tried ABCsearch - a mainstream pay per click SE, and it sucked. During that first time frame (a few months ago) Kanoodle sucked shit as well as did Sex.Com PPC SE traffic. Findwhat and Overture however converted great. Unbelievable in fact. I was using Dollarmachine and some CE stuff, and converting full members and paysites at about 1:350.

Now, (Nov-Dec) Findwhat and Overture suck bad (overture is just to pricey for the return), but Kanoodle and Sex.com are converting at the above rate and better... WTF? I'm using the same program, plus Flashcash for some free trail programs.

funkmaster · 12-17-2002, 03:09 AM

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DarkJedi · 12-17-2002, 03:18 AM

1:350 is a very sucky conversion for SE traffic.

when i had my SE traffic i was doing from 1:5 to 1:10 (i dont bullshit you)

sexmanic · 12-17-2002, 03:27 AM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi
1:350 is a very sucky conversion for SE traffic.

when i had my SE traffic i was doing from 1:5 to 1:10 (i dont bullshit you)

I didn't say I was getting rich. At that ratio, I paid $10.50 for a sale and a $25.00 payout, increase ad infinitum. You do the math.

You do not convert 1:5 for a full paying member no matter what Jedi mind trick you play on your surfers..

triplab · 12-17-2002, 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by sexmanic

You do not convert 1:5 for a full paying member no matter what Jedi mind trick you play on your surfers..

funkmaster · 12-17-2002, 05:31 AM

dj, 1:5 ... that sucks ... I used to convert 20:1 on se traffic, but that was way back in the late 1860´s ...

mehere · 12-17-2002, 09:31 AM

I had good results with goclick.com
Top searched term sex
Sent most traffic at 11c/bid
I use a price in my listing thou as it was for paypersale with $2.85 trial.
Goclick dont shift you if your ad is not clicked frequently like overture tends to do.
Also goclick lets you use any term like tit arse etc without a coronial inquiry.
Maybe its your sponors tracking?
I had bad results with credit card processing changes.

12clicks · 12-17-2002, 09:41 AM

right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer.

Mogul · 12-17-2002, 09:55 AM

eSpotting.com. Is that like a site for chicks on their periods?

I find overture is ok. Trying findwhat now. Nov/Dec are usually avg months. Have not tried sex.com yet.

Going to try sex.com soon I spose.

Mogul
Mogul Networks Inc.

angelsofporn · 12-17-2002, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
dj, 1:5 ... that sucks ... I used to convert 20:1 on se traffic, but that was way back in the late 1860´s ...

Ya those were the good old days when 5 cents bought you a house, 2 cars and 17 18 year old hookers...damn...Use to do 600:1 with stage coach traffic

thesexattic · 12-17-2002, 12:19 PM

Our first test with PPC went good with Findwhat and Kanoodle. Sex.com sent alot of clicks but not much else. Can't afford overture or google yet. The traffic from the others like Goclick and 7search seemed to small to justify keeping up.

WiredGuy · 12-17-2002, 12:54 PM

You need to actively watch the partnerships that these PPC's have with the big engines. The reason you did well before with Overture is because they were listed on AOL/Earthlink. Since then, those companies have moved to Google listings and as such traffic volume has dropped quite largely. To try and keep customers, the PPC's have started getting new partnerships with lower quality traffic such as displaying listings on type-in domains (an example is www.wiredsex.com), where someone doesn't actually do a search but is shown search results from type-in traffic. This results in lower quality conversions.

This explains the result as to why SE quality has dropped on some of the larger PPC's...

WG

thesexattic · 12-17-2002, 01:35 PM

Does anyone have experience with gotosexsites.com?

slackor · 12-17-2002, 01:45 PM

How much traffic can you deliver? There are way too many small PPC engines that are a total waste of time.

No contact info on your site either

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer.

miob · 12-17-2002, 01:47 PM

i tried overture about 2-3 months ago, i spent 40$ and didn't get any signup

, i think PPC are dead for adult keywords

Theo · 12-17-2002, 02:00 PM

Goclick drives shitty traffic and their customer support sucks ass.

Mogul · 12-17-2002, 02:48 PM

goclick sucked. Tried them alot on many different sites of mine (adult and non-adult). Nothing good happened except they helped me get rid of this old money that was laying around

Also, I do not think you should form an opinion on a PPC if you have only spent $50 or whatever. That is like walking into a store, taking 10 steps and saying what you want is not there and leaving. Numbers.....

Mogul
Mogul Networks Inc.

WiredGuy · 12-17-2002, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by miob
i tried overture about 2-3 months ago, i spent 40$ and didn't get any signup , i think PPC are dead for adult keywords

Your making this assumption based on the $40 you spent? Yo need to spend a couple thousand in order to test the traffic on a search engine. With only $40 you'd be lucky to make 1 sale.

WG

triplab · 12-17-2002, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer.

that must make your 'old' customers happy.

12clicks · 12-17-2002, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by triplab

that must make your 'old' customers happy.

There are no 'old' customers, genius.

slackor, the contact info is a bit hidden.

its in the privacy statement. I guess we should make it more visible. as far as how many searches we handle. It's a pretty big number. probably something along the lines of sex.com or so.

We've brokered traffic to all the major ppc engines for years.

12-17-2002, 03:01 AM	#1
sexmanic Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: smega bowls Posts: 196	PPC SE traffic WTF?? In the quest to get paying customers to my site, I have tried just about everything, SE traffic was good but time consuming and moody - and free traffic is a huge time whore for a newb. So, I now buy PPC SE traffic from a bunch of places and make enough to at least keep doing this full time. But, you'd think this stuff would be if anything, predicatable. Anyone have any insight to why PPC SE traffic has such a varying success rate please enlighten - is it the traffic or the product? I first tried ABCsearch - a mainstream pay per click SE, and it sucked. During that first time frame (a few months ago) Kanoodle sucked shit as well as did Sex.Com PPC SE traffic. Findwhat and Overture however converted great. Unbelievable in fact. I was using Dollarmachine and some CE stuff, and converting full members and paysites at about 1:350. Now, (Nov-Dec) Findwhat and Overture suck bad (overture is just to pricey for the return), but Kanoodle and Sex.com are converting at the above rate and better... WTF? I'm using the same program, plus Flashcash for some free trail programs. __________________ ________ rental unit

12-17-2002, 09:41 AM	#8
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,789	right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer. __________________ I'm not a dinosaur, I'm a crocodile. I've seen dinosaurs come and go and I'm left unimpressed.

12-17-2002, 09:55 AM	#9
Mogul Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: LV NV USA Posts: 546	eSpotting.com. Is that like a site for chicks on their periods? I find overture is ok. Trying findwhat now. Nov/Dec are usually avg months. Have not tried sex.com yet. Going to try sex.com soon I spose. Mogul Mogul Networks Inc. __________________ MogulPass.com Free AVS system that pays $30 per free signup, $5 per referred sale, has Promoter Sites you can just send traffic to and more. ContentLotto.com Win free content, hosting, design, traffic, lotto sites, cash and more instanty.

12-17-2002, 12:54 PM	#12
WiredGuy Pounding Googlebot Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 34,486	You need to actively watch the partnerships that these PPC's have with the big engines. The reason you did well before with Overture is because they were listed on AOL/Earthlink. Since then, those companies have moved to Google listings and as such traffic volume has dropped quite largely. To try and keep customers, the PPC's have started getting new partnerships with lower quality traffic such as displaying listings on type-in domains (an example is www.wiredsex.com), where someone doesn't actually do a search but is shown search results from type-in traffic. This results in lower quality conversions. This explains the result as to why SE quality has dropped on some of the larger PPC's... WG __________________ I play with Google.

12-17-2002, 01:47 PM	#15
miob Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: US Posts: 314	i tried overture about 2-3 months ago, i spent 40$ and didn't get any signup , i think PPC are dead for adult keywords __________________ Wanna more toplist or cj niche traffic ? ToplistCentral, Wanna grow your traffic ? do a trade with Babes Kick Ass

12-17-2002, 03:09 AM	#2
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	... give <a href="http://www.espotting.com/advertisers/register01.asp?ReferralID=473">espotting </a> a try ... you won´t regret it !

12-17-2002, 03:18 AM	#3
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	1:350 is a very sucky conversion for SE traffic. when i had my SE traffic i was doing from 1:5 to 1:10 (i dont bullshit you)

12-17-2002, 05:31 AM	#6
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	dj, 1:5 ... that sucks ... I used to convert 20:1 on se traffic, but that was way back in the late 1860´s ...

12-17-2002, 09:31 AM	#7
mehere Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 14	I had good results with goclick.com Top searched term sex Sent most traffic at 11c/bid I use a price in my listing thou as it was for paypersale with $2.85 trial. Goclick dont shift you if your ad is not clicked frequently like overture tends to do. Also goclick lets you use any term like tit arse etc without a coronial inquiry. Maybe its your sponors tracking? I had bad results with credit card processing changes.

12-17-2002, 12:19 PM	#11
thesexattic Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somewhere Under Your Pubies! Posts: 256	Our first test with PPC went good with Findwhat and Kanoodle. Sex.com sent alot of clicks but not much else. Can't afford overture or google yet. The traffic from the others like Goclick and 7search seemed to small to justify keeping up.

12-17-2002, 01:35 PM	#13
thesexattic Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Somewhere Under Your Pubies! Posts: 256	Does anyone have experience with gotosexsites.com?

12-17-2002, 02:00 PM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	Goclick drives shitty traffic and their customer support sucks ass.

12-17-2002, 02:48 PM	#17
Mogul Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: LV NV USA Posts: 546	goclick sucked. Tried them alot on many different sites of mine (adult and non-adult). Nothing good happened except they helped me get rid of this old money that was laying around Also, I do not think you should form an opinion on a PPC if you have only spent $50 or whatever. That is like walking into a store, taking 10 steps and saying what you want is not there and leaving. Numbers..... Mogul Mogul Networks Inc. __________________ MogulPass.com Free AVS system that pays $30 per free signup, $5 per referred sale, has Promoter Sites you can just send traffic to and more. ContentLotto.com Win free content, hosting, design, traffic, lotto sites, cash and more instanty.