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sexmanic 12-17-2002 03:01 AM

PPC SE traffic WTF??
 
In the quest to get paying customers to my site, I have tried just about everything, SE traffic was good but time consuming and moody - and free traffic is a huge time whore for a newb. So, I now buy PPC SE traffic from a bunch of places and make enough to at least keep doing this full time.

But, you'd think this stuff would be if anything, predicatable. Anyone have any insight to why PPC SE traffic has such a varying success rate please enlighten - is it the traffic or the product?

I first tried ABCsearch - a mainstream pay per click SE, and it sucked. During that first time frame (a few months ago) Kanoodle sucked shit as well as did Sex.Com PPC SE traffic. Findwhat and Overture however converted great. Unbelievable in fact. I was using Dollarmachine and some CE stuff, and converting full members and paysites at about 1:350.

Now, (Nov-Dec) Findwhat and Overture suck bad (overture is just to pricey for the return), but Kanoodle and Sex.com are converting at the above rate and better... WTF? I'm using the same program, plus Flashcash for some free trail programs.

:helpme

funkmaster 12-17-2002 03:09 AM

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DarkJedi 12-17-2002 03:18 AM

1:350 is a very sucky conversion for SE traffic.


when i had my SE traffic i was doing from 1:5 to 1:10 (i dont bullshit you)

sexmanic 12-17-2002 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
1:350 is a very sucky conversion for SE traffic.


when i had my SE traffic i was doing from 1:5 to 1:10 (i dont bullshit you)

I didn't say I was getting rich. At that ratio, I paid $10.50 for a sale and a $25.00 payout, increase ad infinitum. You do the math.

You do not convert 1:5 for a full paying member no matter what Jedi mind trick you play on your surfers..

triplab 12-17-2002 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexmanic

You do not convert 1:5 for a full paying member no matter what Jedi mind trick you play on your surfers..

:1orglaugh

funkmaster 12-17-2002 05:31 AM

dj, 1:5 ... that sucks ... I used to convert 20:1 on se traffic, but that was way back in the late 1860´s ...

mehere 12-17-2002 09:31 AM

I had good results with goclick.com
Top searched term sex
Sent most traffic at 11c/bid
I use a price in my listing thou as it was for paypersale with $2.85 trial.
Goclick dont shift you if your ad is not clicked frequently like overture tends to do.
Also goclick lets you use any term like tit arse etc without a coronial inquiry.
Maybe its your sponors tracking?
I had bad results with credit card processing changes.

12clicks 12-17-2002 09:41 AM

right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer.
:Graucho

Mogul 12-17-2002 09:55 AM

eSpotting.com. Is that like a site for chicks on their periods?


I find overture is ok. Trying findwhat now. Nov/Dec are usually avg months. Have not tried sex.com yet.

Going to try sex.com soon I spose.

Mogul
Mogul Networks Inc.

angelsofporn 12-17-2002 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
dj, 1:5 ... that sucks ... I used to convert 20:1 on se traffic, but that was way back in the late 1860´s ...
Ya those were the good old days when 5 cents bought you a house, 2 cars and 17 18 year old hookers...damn...Use to do 600:1 with stage coach traffic

thesexattic 12-17-2002 12:19 PM

Our first test with PPC went good with Findwhat and Kanoodle. Sex.com sent alot of clicks but not much else. Can't afford overture or google yet. The traffic from the others like Goclick and 7search seemed to small to justify keeping up.

WiredGuy 12-17-2002 12:54 PM

You need to actively watch the partnerships that these PPC's have with the big engines. The reason you did well before with Overture is because they were listed on AOL/Earthlink. Since then, those companies have moved to Google listings and as such traffic volume has dropped quite largely. To try and keep customers, the PPC's have started getting new partnerships with lower quality traffic such as displaying listings on type-in domains (an example is www.wiredsex.com), where someone doesn't actually do a search but is shown search results from type-in traffic. This results in lower quality conversions.

This explains the result as to why SE quality has dropped on some of the larger PPC's...

WG

thesexattic 12-17-2002 01:35 PM

Does anyone have experience with gotosexsites.com?

slackor 12-17-2002 01:45 PM

How much traffic can you deliver? There are way too many small PPC engines that are a total waste of time.

No contact info on your site either

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer.
:Graucho


miob 12-17-2002 01:47 PM

i tried overture about 2-3 months ago, i spent 40$ and didn't get any signup:feels-hot , i think PPC are dead for adult keywords

Theo 12-17-2002 02:00 PM

Goclick drives shitty traffic and their customer support sucks ass.

Mogul 12-17-2002 02:48 PM

goclick sucked. Tried them alot on many different sites of mine (adult and non-adult). Nothing good happened except they helped me get rid of this old money that was laying around :)

Also, I do not think you should form an opinion on a PPC if you have only spent $50 or whatever. That is like walking into a store, taking 10 steps and saying what you want is not there and leaving. Numbers.....


Mogul
Mogul Networks Inc.

WiredGuy 12-17-2002 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by miob
i tried overture about 2-3 months ago, i spent 40$ and didn't get any signup:feels-hot , i think PPC are dead for adult keywords
Your making this assumption based on the $40 you spent? Yo need to spend a couple thousand in order to test the traffic on a search engine. With only $40 you'd be lucky to make 1 sale.

WG

triplab 12-17-2002 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
right now, http://www.turbofind.com lets you jump to the top of the list with low bids just for being a new customer.
:Graucho

that must make your 'old' customers happy.

12clicks 12-17-2002 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by triplab


that must make your 'old' customers happy.

There are no 'old' customers, genius. :1orglaugh



slackor, the contact info is a bit hidden. :)
its in the privacy statement. I guess we should make it more visible. as far as how many searches we handle. It's a pretty big number. probably something along the lines of sex.com or so.

We've brokered traffic to all the major ppc engines for years.


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