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What I think happens is someone will watch 1 review 10 min video, see how thorough they are and then just take their word for it and look the content, security and billing tabs for the other sites and not keep watching videos.Text review sites are text for a reason. They want search traffic and it's how they bring in almost all their traffic. While they both call themselves review sites, they are targeting completely different demographics and traffic sources.
I think it's a cool concept and looks well done. My only gripe would be the length of the reviews. I just don't see myself sitting through a 10 minute review on a porn site. If you're deciding between 3 sites in a niche, do you really want to spend the next half hour listening to a guy talk about the sites? I'm sure there are some people that do and it will cater to them, but I'd like a little more fast paced review.
Now one way this site could be a slam dunk is if people who are about to join a membership site go to livereview to check it out before they buy. For example, I am about to signup to ClaudiaMarie, i think its a nice site but before i signup to anything i go check it out at LiveReview first. So in this case I am not going there to search a lot of reviews to find a good site, I am using them as check to make sure a site I am about to signup to is legit or a scam. In this case, the sale Robbie was about to make 100% of he would then have to split with the review site. Would be great for the review site if everyone used them that way, but I know some affiliate programs that would be pissed about people taking "their traffic".
since the person was about to signup and found the site on their own.
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Ok, so who owns this puppy? I dont want to read 4 pages.Comment
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My guess is if you spam the hell out of them and do pre checked cross sales you're gonna get called out on it in your review. and rightfully so IMO.Commenting that they have xsales, I don't mind so much about. Pointing out, upgrades, one-clicks, etc.. which are 'confirm' orders that the person wants... That bothers me.
It's pretty clear that paysite owners don't like the fact that review sites are pointing out the HONEST ways they make money from the surfer.
Emailing members cancel offers, is not a scam and telling the surfer about it, is bullshit.
Then lets assume you did start getting spam, one of it's linked to one software backend or processor, now you just excluded all those paysites from getting sales and you just uncovered the REAL largest concern of surfers, privacy of information given to paysites - and told them about it - really f'in smart.
The Review site is injecting OPINION'S that they think the surfer doesn't like to be up-sold, even though they clearly take them and when you're doing it honestly, the buyers do not complain - they ACTUALLY THANK YOU!
Anyway, actual market research shows people LIKE to be up-sold and get other related products recommend to them.
This isn't to say I don't think the idea is good.... but pointing out some of the stuff they're is not what actually concerns the surfer but it does effect our sales.
Upells in the members area are not a issue IMO.Comment
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I think everything should and is taken into account with review sites.
The xsales and popups are most defiantly part of the userable side of the site. The more things a surfer has to think about not ticking or ticking, makes the site harder to use.
Simplicity is good!
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This is a brillant idea.
I was skeptical when I first heard about it, but now that I have seen it I have no doubt it is going to do very, very well.Reality TV Star, AVN Hall of Fame, Five-Time XBIZ Winner
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Awesome, interesting, disturbing, hopeful and scary, all at once. Oui?My Affiliate Programs:
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i would be happy to promote it when you launch. Especially with an affiliate program. If you have an email list, please add [email protected]...Comment
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You couldn't be any more wrong.
How does he have spam reports if it's not a real join.Comment
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I'm not worried about the people that spam, I am worried about leaks that create spam. Which will create legal issues, which will lead back to problems for our Industry.
Some affiliates think upsells are bad, it's all who you ask, just like pre-checks. All of which are opinions from webmasters/affiliates and not what the surfer thinks.
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What are you a newbie? Fill out the join form and hit submit, that's "spam" if you get emails. If you signup for a site and get cancel offers, that's not spam.
It could easily, very easily, be faked.
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I think this is going to make some of the sites out there up their game some...Comment
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The Joins aren't faked. I guarantee it.
In fact, I'm very proud to announce that Adult Copywriters played an important role in the development and creation of this review site.
We have worked with many major review sites in the past, but never on something this big. It was a great experience and I can't wait to see the final result.Comment
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Cool.... You don't have go convince me or us, that it's not fake. I'm just telling you what I saw.The Joins aren't faked. I guarantee it.
In fact, I'm very proud to announce that Adult Copywriters played an important role in the development and creation of this review site.
We have worked with many major review sites in the past, but never on something this big. It was a great experience and I can't wait to see the final result.
I'm sure it will do well... grats for being part of it.
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It looks like for the intro video they really rented a studio for the day.
The actual reviews appear to be 100% green screen, all the way down to the desk. For all we know the form for the desk could be a cardboard box sitting in the third bedroom of somebody's condo.
Simply brilliant! I fell for it until I got to a review where the green screen was a little too obvious.
To the site owners, bravo! This is beta and I can think of a few different directions this could go so it will be interesting to see where it does.
Would be funny if they incorporate long text reviews alongside the video ... just for egg-in-face of all the people that say it will never work because there is no text.Comment
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Great idea and only sites that lie, con and spam their customers will have anything to complain about. Anyone that runs a good, honest site and respects their customers will have nothing to worry about.
My site has already been reviewed and this is the first I knew about it. I've already made one quick change to the site based on the review and will make another tomorrow.
http://www.livereviews.com/1988/Adul...-Amateurs.html
Not mine they didn't. The subscription number matches a join on the 29th October and it wasn't an affiliate join.
Bollocks. All surfers are potential customers. Show them respect.
It's customers that feed your family.
Best of luck with it and I hope you feel better soon.
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The reviews are too mechanical IMO.
As was stated above - what about the content?
The first review mentioned was Rachel Aziani so I sat through it and it didn't tell me shit abotu the site other than the download speed, really.
What a surfer really needs to know about that site is a) Rachel is fucking hot. b) Rachel has amazing jugs that you get to see bouncing all over the place. c) Rachel runs the site herself and she's a doll. d) Rachel does some hardcore with her hubby and it's awesome. d) Rachel also does a lot of solo stuff and it's lava hot in the following ways: a, b, c, etc.
What you have here is a movie review site that doesn't tell you shit about the movie beyond its running time and the size of the theatre you can see it in.
Someone doesn't need a review to tell them that a chick is hot, they can see that for themselves. They also don't need a review to find out what some "dude" who did the review thought about the site as everyone has different tastes. What you do need a review for is the stuff like, what to watch out for on the signup page (cross sales and tricks) are they g oing to bang my card 110x, will i get 2,000 spam emails from them, do they have a lot of content in the members area, is it updated often. that is the shit that people want to know about.ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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why is it such a "slamdunk" for this review site alone? this is just another review site, and they are starting out with no traffic, there are already many great review sites out there, and many of those rank high and get traffic, just because this one has video doesn't make it the end-all of reviews, ...What I think happens is someone will watch 1 review 10 min video, see how thorough they are and then just take their word for it and look the content, security and billing tabs for the other sites and not keep watching videos.
Now one way this site could be a slam dunk is if people who are about to join a membership site go to livereview to check it out before they buy. For example, I am about to signup to ClaudiaMarie, i think its a nice site but before i signup to anything i go check it out at LiveReview first. So in this case I am not going there to search a lot of reviews to find a good site, I am using them as check to make sure a site I am about to signup to is legit or a scam. In this case, the sale Robbie was about to make 100% of he would then have to split with the review site. Would be great for the review site if everyone used them that way, but I know some affiliate programs that would be pissed about people taking "their traffic".
since the person was about to signup and found the site on their own.
thinking this over this actually reminded me of one of my pet peeves, when a company uses video to put out some important information, when text would be way more efficient....
I hate having to watch through a video when I actually want information (google adsense did that recently, I clicked on something they said would give more info on a certain issue and was led to a video on the topic... I closed it 3 seconds in, I would have scanned a text block about the topic but I was not interested in sitting through some stupid video about it)

anyways, good luck with the review site guys, just like I'll wish luck on anyone else that is running a review site out there, there are lots of good ones to choose from (although this one might get more interest from webmasters because of it's angle at the moment)
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I don't think it's "just another review site". Just another review sites consist of 1 dude telling you " I give this site amn 87 out of 100" or " 4 out of 5 stars". The main reason for most review sites it to make money from SE traffic. Their reviews are bullshit.why is it such a "slamdunk" for this review site alone? this is just another review site, and they are starting out with no traffic, there are already many great review sites out there, and many of those rank high and get traffic, just because this one has video doesn't make it the end-all of reviews, ...
thinking this over this actually reminded me of one of my pet peeves, when a company uses video to put out some important information, when text would be way more efficient....
I hate having to watch through a video when I actually want information (google adsense did that recently, I clicked on something they said would give more info on a certain issue and was led to a video on the topic... I closed it 3 seconds in, I would have scanned a text block about the topic but I was not interested in sitting through some stupid video about it)

anyways, good luck with the review site guys, just like I'll wish luck on anyone else that is running a review site out there, there are lots of good ones to choose from (although this one might get more interest from webmasters because of it's angle at the moment)
The "video" allows you to see the members area, without paying. That is the only part about this site that really has to do with the videos. But the fact that they do it all on video tells you that they are serious about it and not just trying to throw shit on a page to get SE traffic. The other really cool parts is the fact that they actually sign up to the site with a credit card. how many other review sites do that?
So let's compare:
most review sites: ask for a free password and tell you what is in the members area.
this review site: signups with a credit card and shows you what is in the members area.
By signing up with a credit card then can then tell you if the site will bang the fuck out of your credit card or not and if they will send you tons of spam. Two extremely important things that a surfer would like to know that the other review sites can't help them with.
The "slam dunk" comment was is if this review site could get people in the habbit of always going to their review site to peak into the members area and check to see if the site bangs their card/spams them to hell, before the person signs up to any porn site. If even a small percentage of porn buyers would always go to the review site first before buying they would make a killing. The other review sites are more of a place where people go to look for something new to try, this review site is where people would go to check out every site they are about to buy from. huge difference between the two...ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com
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I understand what you are saying Will, but I still think everything you said (minus the medium being video), can apply just as much to a text based site as to this one, and even better in my opinion
(video captures are a novelty, kind of like a youtube tutorial on photoshop where you sit there painfully watching the guy move the mouse cursor slowly over obvious concepts... honestly, text and maybe some screen caps is the best way to convey this kind of specific info, if a site bangs cards, you can say that in words just fine)
if a surfer trusts a review from a text based site they can return for more just fine, a good review site is a good review siteLast edited by d-null; 12-10-2009, 10:47 PM.
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I agree with Paul.Paul it must be nice living in fantasy land. How's the weather?
It sounds very noble to speak of "educating the buyer", etc. But let's get down to brass tacks, money is made on the ignorant, not the educated. It has nothing to do with trust or credibility, that's been thrown out the window long ago, now the battle is with free content. I think you can guess who will win. This isn't mainstream. People pay for services like Netflix/Blockbuster/Amazon onDemand because their service is just far superior to finding ripped movies, waiting for the download, sacrificing quality, risk getting thrown in jail... This isn't the case in porn. Not to mention I'm not watching a 2 hour porn movie, I'm watching a 5min clip, jerking off, going to sleep.
Along with the battle against free content is the battle against shady site owners. People who spam, bang, cheat, lie to squeeze every dollar and ounce of trust from buyers. Free content being available is not the only reason why the number of people purchasing porn online decreases every year.┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐
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Nice to see one of our sites on there. Wasn't expecting that at all and hopefully will see more up soon.
Site and concept is fantastic. Think it could use more text information, (updates, niche of the content) to go along with the video review.
Our business plan is selling members sites and content that gets them off. Make them feel happy to buy and buy again. Keep them active members as long as possible. Big thumbs up to EB and everyone else involved.ISLAND DOLLARS
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I don't think it's "just another review site". Just another review sites consist of 1 dude telling you " I give this site amn 87 out of 100" or " 4 out of 5 stars". The main reason for most review sites it to make money from SE traffic. Their reviews are bullshit.
The "video" allows you to see the members area, without paying. That is the only part about this site that really has to do with the videos. But the fact that they do it all on video tells you that they are serious about it and not just trying to throw shit on a page to get SE traffic. The other really cool parts is the fact that they actually sign up to the site with a credit card. how many other review sites do that?
So let's compare:
most review sites: ask for a free password and tell you what is in the members area.
this review site: signups with a credit card and shows you what is in the members area.
By signing up with a credit card then can then tell you if the site will bang the fuck out of your credit card or not and if they will send you tons of spam. Two extremely important things that a surfer would like to know that the other review sites can't help them with.
The "slam dunk" comment was is if this review site could get people in the habbit of always going to their review site to peak into the members area and check to see if the site bangs their card/spams them to hell, before the person signs up to any porn site. If even a small percentage of porn buyers would always go to the review site first before buying they would make a killing. The other review sites are more of a place where people go to look for something new to try, this review site is where people would go to check out every site they are about to buy from. huge difference between the two...
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Always top notch stuff from EscortBiz...I am not surprised at all. Shooting with RED I see tooHi Guys
First thanks to those who made positive comments.
I am one of the guys involved in this project, I have been sick with the flu so I wont be on allot but ill address a few key points, and hopefully once I get better ill go into more details about the project, the people behind it, and maybe go back and forth with a few here that like to mock everything
This project is far from done and is in early testing stages.
Yes real credit cards have been used hence we have a legit spam report and we will also be posting a letter from a CPA signing off on that.
There will be an aff program, next AVN issue will have a full page ad about the site.
I have been in this industry a long time, I don?t design things so webmasters can talk about it, I design things that the surfer will enjoy, my tours are still lame and plain on all my sites and I still shoot updates after all these years, again I could care less about impressing webmasters or impressing myself, im not the one joining my own sites neither are you the webmaster.
We have footage of cancellations too, and when it goes live access is no longer valid. We try to uploaded after the membership is up, in addition we try to blur out as much as possible, do we make mistakes, yes.
We never joined a site using our own aff code, its clean joins.
We are human we make mistakes, we will fix it as soon as we are asked, im saying this a few times so people don?t panic, a big focus is being put on speedy corrections whatever they may be.
There will be a section with updated info for the user and we are more then capable of re-shooting when needed
Only a group of paysite owners who are in constant touch with their members would understand what this project is about. To be fair none of the sites we operate get reviewed, we tried it and as honest as it looked I can still see some saying it looked too positive, and it?s just a conflict of interest in a way.
Although you can blame the lack of signups in these days on tubes etc. the fact is this industry has fucked and re-fucked so many, and millions of people simply don?t join because of that, when you fuck a porn buyer you fuck everyone in this business. No doubt the huge amount of free porn don?t help either, but hey I cant help with that. In addition there is a whole market of people that are not expert surfers that would join porn sites if they would just know what the heck it involves, don?t assume everyone with a internet connection knows how to surf the net well, if they would several million computers wouldn?t get infected daily.
Years ago this site wasn?t needed, now it is, this project is really a small piece of a larger mainstream review project but we figured lets get adult out as it was the easiest to shoot.
And yes the consumer is doing more homework in these days especially when it comes to porn. The idea of doing video review is old, Cnet has been doing product reviews on video for a long time, but like I said this project hasn?t even started, and hopefully it will work out.
Like anything else that?s new, many will bash it and go into their theories on why it won?t work, and they will find spelling mistakes and all types of errors. Well guess what nothing is perfect from the start and like any new idea it will be tweaked and tested and given a good chance.
The surfer will decide what they prefer, what you as a webmaster will or wont do, does not matter (worth saying a few times).
I appreciate any feedback, the goal here is to help site owners with legit sites get sales, that?s it, quiet frankly money comes last, as bullshit as this sounds this is the truth. The main focus is bringing back the paying members; and to bring back some trust, that?s all. Before getting involved in this project a huge amount of research was done. The surfer will soon tell you who does and doesn?t understand them, but I don?t blame anyone for bashing a new concept, it?s the nature of the beast.
Its new and it will takes a big marketing effort including lots of late night TV spots and other major partnerships that are not the typical method of marketing to give this site the chance it deserves, for now its all about uploading tons of quality reviews and that?s the main focus now, in some cases redoing some that are not clear.
Enjoy and as soon as I get better ill spend more time here.
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Good point, but what they're doing is so innovative that as long as they manage their business properly, they will succeed. Surfers will love that site. That's the top line. The bottom line will take care of itself.Comment
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Great idea and only sites that lie, con and spam their customers will have anything to complain about. Anyone that runs a good, honest site and respects their customers will have nothing to worry about.
My site has already been reviewed and this is the first I knew about it. I've already made one quick change to the site based on the review and will make another tomorrow.
http://www.livereviews.com/1988/Adul...-Amateurs.html
Not mine they didn't. The subscription number matches a join on the 29th October and it wasn't an affiliate join.
Bollocks. All surfers are potential customers. Show them respect.
It's customers that feed your family.
Best of luck with it and I hope you feel better soon.
So true.
One of the largest paysite programs in our Industry monetizes more ways than anyone, and they are about as honest as it comes, no complaints, etc. I'm really sure you don't know what I'm talking about..... but EB does.
Btw, I don't have to worry about review sites, I don't let them review me. See, review sites skew the truth, they don't 'sell' your site how it should be, and they inject opinion as to what they fell is good or bad - opinions that do not match the feelings of my member base.
Personally, I find review site traffic to be less quality than illegal tube traffic, difference is it's easier to get on review sites.
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I don't think it's "just another review site". Just another review sites consist of 1 dude telling you " I give this site amn 87 out of 100" or " 4 out of 5 stars". The main reason for most review sites it to make money from SE traffic. Their reviews are bullshit.
The "video" allows you to see the members area, without paying. That is the only part about this site that really has to do with the videos. But the fact that they do it all on video tells you that they are serious about it and not just trying to throw shit on a page to get SE traffic. The other really cool parts is the fact that they actually sign up to the site with a credit card. how many other review sites do that?
So let's compare:
most review sites: ask for a free password and tell you what is in the members area.
this review site: signups with a credit card and shows you what is in the members area.
By signing up with a credit card then can then tell you if the site will bang the fuck out of your credit card or not and if they will send you tons of spam. Two extremely important things that a surfer would like to know that the other review sites can't help them with.
The "slam dunk" comment was is if this review site could get people in the habbit of always going to their review site to peak into the members area and check to see if the site bangs their card/spams them to hell, before the person signs up to any porn site. If even a small percentage of porn buyers would always go to the review site first before buying they would make a killing. The other review sites are more of a place where people go to look for something new to try, this review site is where people would go to check out every site they are about to buy from. huge difference between the two...
BRILLIANT, lets educate the surfer to leave your site and go check a review site to see if they are honest, so they make the sale and you lose it.
That's a slam dunk for stealing sales... one of my biggest complaints of review sites and why I don't allow them, they steal sales from my other affiliates. Exactly like paysite owners that reset the codes on the warning pages.....
But you guys will bent over backwards, buy whores and crack, for 5 sales a day...Last edited by TheDoc; 12-11-2009, 05:13 AM.
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I've been told by a trusted person that the joins are for real. They actually sign up for the sites they review. If that's a good or a bad thing in their strategy, i don't know, but it seems they actually sign up for the sites.
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This site is a great idea. So many site have awesome tours and such shitty members area and shitty content. Mad props to the guys who made this review site!Comment
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Amazing review site! I can see that this is bad news for some paysites and good for others.Main sites: Duclerck.com & Diderote.com My Hosting: AmeriNOC
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