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Warren · 12-05-2009, 08:50 PM

[QUOTE=Shoehorn!;16619063]

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Originally Posted by Warren

No need to bring Tom Jones into this, the man has a lot of hits.

Seriously, you are not kidding. he made some great records, I met him at the sky bar in hollywood a fews years ago, we bought each other drinks, he is a cool welsh man.

Shoehorn! · 12-05-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

This is fucked up, fucked up. It should be obvious (to DirtyD), but it's not....

On the note of videos, anyone know where I can get the unedited video with Hitler that everyone makes into a parody?

Warren · 12-05-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

Hmm, says its waiting on authorization. Try adding me - 72458277.

Ok, I just got one from a "lovely" lol, a lot of spammers atm on icq. ill add you now

dav3 · 12-05-2009, 09:01 PM

So was the TOS updated yet?

Could just copy Blockbuster's and Find/Replace with Crackwhore Confessions.

Shoehorn! · 12-05-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dav3

So was the TOS updated yet?

Could just copy Blockbuster's and Find/Replace with Crackwhore Confessions.

"What methods can I use to send traffic?
All email promotions must be CAN-SPAM compliant. You can send traffic many ways. We have plenty of banners, hosted galleries, and hosted free sites for you to choose from. You can also use text links, blind links, exit consoles, entrance consoles, 404 traffic and site reviews."

Nope.

raven1083 · 12-05-2009, 09:04 PM

here's a friendly bump for you

Playboy-Deak · 12-05-2009, 09:07 PM

Dirty D thinks this bad publicity is good publicity. This thread may get googled and when someone types in howigotrich this thread will be listed...

Dirty D is probably somewhere tooting lines of coke off this shit, cussing ppl out, and throwing tantrums... He's jus too full of himself to see outside his own view... May even be a lil antisocial... I jus wonder how his program is doing since this thread blew? I actually thought he was a cool guy, saw him partying it up in a few videos with some broads...

But now, it really appears he's delusional... Sorta like Hitler b4 he died...

dav3 · 12-05-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

"What methods can I use to send traffic?
All email promotions must be CAN-SPAM compliant. You can send traffic many ways. We have plenty of banners, hosted galleries, and hosted free sites for you to choose from. You can also use text links, blind links, exit consoles, entrance consoles, 404 traffic and site reviews."

Nope.

If it was such an issue, you would figure that he would quickly add that in the TOS to prevent this scenario from reoccurring.

But since he didn't, it comes off as a scheme to continually fuck WM's out of money with little 'gotcha' games.

Mutt · 12-05-2009, 09:15 PM

unbelievable how either dumb or shady this guy is - i'm gonna assume since he's built a fairly popular program that he's not dumb.

you've had the issue explained to you by shoehorn and a hundred other people, many of them who probably don't even know shoehorn - he was not breaking any rules, he was doing what hundreds of other webmasters do. you don't like what he was doing, too fucking bad, you never told him that until after the fact, using trademarks/domain keyword phrases is done all the time in this industry for PPC ads, so don't try comparing it to shady practices like carding that are universally unacceptable by all programs. change your Terms, pay him, and move on. There is NO PRINCIPLE here for you, there is for Shoehorn.

Va2k · 12-05-2009, 09:24 PM

18 fucking pages, and he still thinks he is in the right! Why oh why would anyone trust their money with him or his program?

Due · 12-05-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Playboy-Deak

Dirty D thinks this bad publicity is good publicity. This thread may get googled and when someone types in howigotrich this thread will be listed...

Dirty D is probably somewhere tooting lines of coke off this shit, cussing ppl out, and throwing tantrums... He's jus too full of himself to see outside his own view... May even be a lil antisocial... I jus wonder how his program is doing since this thread blew? I actually thought he was a cool guy, saw him partying it up in a few videos with some broads...

But now, it really appears he's delusional... Sorta like Hitler b4 he died...

Holly shit a Hitler on coke shooting bukkake porn sounds like a dangerous combo

Agent 488 · 12-05-2009, 09:33 PM

i don't think he cares.

he's probably doing a fat line using a $440 dollar bill and laughing ....

Warren · 12-05-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

unbelievable how either dumb or shady this guy is - i'm gonna assume since he's built a fairly popular program that he's not dumb.

you've had the issue explained to you by shoehorn and a hundred other people, many of them who probably don't even know shoehorn - he was not breaking any rules, he was doing what hundreds of other webmasters do. you don't like what he was doing, too fucking bad, you never told him that until after the fact, using trademarks/domain keyword phrases is done all the time in this industry for PPC ads, so don't try comparing it to shady practices like carding that are universally unacceptable by all programs. change your Terms, pay him, and move on. There is NO PRINCIPLE here for you, there is for Shoehorn.

Dont waste your breath man, Robbie and D think they are gangsters.

Due · 12-05-2009, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoehorn!

"What methods can I use to send traffic?
All email promotions must be CAN-SPAM compliant. You can send traffic many ways. We have plenty of banners, hosted galleries, and hosted free sites for you to choose from. You can also use text links, blind links, exit consoles, entrance consoles, 404 traffic and site reviews."

Nope.

You are right, Cybersquatting does not appear to be an approved method of advertisement.

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Some cybersquatters put up derogatory remarks about the person or company the domain is meant to represent in an effort to encourage the subject to buy the domain from them.[citation needed] Others post paid links via Google, Yahoo, Ask.com and other paid advertising networks to the actual site that the user likely wanted, thus monetizing their squatting..

Source: Wikipedia

The Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act (ACPA), 15 U.S.C. § 1125(d), was enacted in 1999

Sorry if this is a repost, 18 pages... WOW!!

Warren · 12-05-2009, 10:12 PM

[QUOTE=Robbie;16619034]

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Originally Posted by Deej

I don't know him. And I never insulted him in this thread either. Though he has insulted me several times. He says we met in L.A., okay. I didn't remember it. I was having a good time. Why would this guy be irritated with me? I haven't said one word bad to him or about him.. I have no beef with anybody. But I'm not gonna be bullied by anybody either. And that's how I'm being made to feel. Well, I'm a big boy. I've basically just been told that "my money won't save me" I don't know how to take that. So I'm gonna take it the way it sounds. I have no idea why, but I won't be fucked with by anybody.

Insulted you? fuck you, you are on my shit list now.no respect' go suck Dirty D's cock.

rowan · 12-05-2009, 10:28 PM

Shoehorn, I'll give you a little tip. Search Google for "Curiouscash" and see which board ranks well... post there and you're pretty much guaranteed the thread will be on G, and ranked well, within hours.

Alky · 12-05-2009, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Playboy-Deak

Dirty D thinks this bad publicity is good publicity. This thread may get googled and when someone types in howigotrich this thread will be listed...

Dirty D is probably somewhere tooting lines of coke off this shit, cussing ppl out, and throwing tantrums... He's jus too full of himself to see outside his own view... May even be a lil antisocial... I jus wonder how his program is doing since this thread blew? I actually thought he was a cool guy, saw him partying it up in a few videos with some broads...

But now, it really appears he's delusional... Sorta like Hitler b4 he died...

Wait... what? You mean How I Got Rich might get googled because of this thread about Crack Whore Confessions??

Btw... is crack whore confessions even trademarked? people keep talking about trademarks, i don't think dirty d ever mentioned that it was.

baddog · 12-05-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Serious Question then.

Are you allowed to purchase Playboy from google and get paid to send it to playboy.com ?

We all know that BlockBuster doesn't need you to help buy their domain keyword.
Guess what, we don't allow it either.

Where is the list of Adult Programs with paysites that are lining up to pay Shoehorn to get PPC traffic from the EXACT SPELLING of their own DOMAIN name?

Haven't seen one paysite owner asking to be promoted in this way.
All I see is examples of companies that forbid it.

I went to look at the Playboy TOS to check it out. Granted, I am not really in the mood to do in depth investigation, but they at least say:

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v.�� Under no circumstances shall you use or attempt to use any domain names which are or could be confusingly similar to the domain names registered and/or used by us, our licensors and/or affiliates. For purposes of clarification and not limitation, you may not use domain names which are identical or sound, appear or differ slightly from any of the domain names which host the Playboy Webmaster Sites. Your breach of this Section 4(b)(v), as determined by us, shall constitute grounds for our immediate termination of this Agreement without notice and forfeiture of any commission owed, in addition to any other rights or remedies available to us under this Agreement or at law.

You know how I feel about you, but I have to say, after looking at your TOS, as long as it doesn't say you can't . . . .

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Originally Posted by Varius

Actually Jesus is Warren's backup driver

What do you mean

? You know it is fact.

baddog · 12-05-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

Shoehorn, I'll give you a little tip. Search Google for "Curiouscash" and see which board ranks well... post there and you're pretty much guaranteed the thread will be on G, and ranked well, within hours.

That is actually pretty amazing and sad at the same time.

Warren · 12-05-2009, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I went to look at the Playboy TOS to check it out. Granted, I am not really in the mood to do in depth investigation, but they at least say:

You know how I feel about you, but I have to say, after looking at your TOS, as long as it doesn't say you can't . . . .

What do you mean

? You know it is fact.

B dog in the house, sort this shit out big brother.

lazycash · 12-05-2009, 11:57 PM

Warren posted this in the wrong thread so I thought I'd move it here:

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Originally Posted by Warren

It's ok, Im in talks with Shoehorn about this debt, and I think we are almost at an agreement on buying this debt. once the deal is settled, there will be a $100 per day interest applied on the loan and I will collect, believe me. Robbie, you are a joke, dont fuck with me.

Shoehorn! · 12-06-2009, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Warren posted this in the wrong thread so I thought I'd move it here:

I just want to be paid the $477 he owes me.

Or like I said earlier, at this point I would take $350 so we can both go our separate ways.

Warren · 12-06-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Warren posted this in the wrong thread so I thought I'd move it here:

Thank you.

CunningStunt · 12-06-2009, 12:57 AM

Been paid yet?

Mutt · 12-06-2009, 12:57 AM

Shoehorn! · 12-06-2009, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Been paid yet?

Nope, he hasn't even contacted me to try and work something out.

Alky · 12-06-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

dav3 · 12-06-2009, 01:08 AM

"He's been lining he pockets of Google for too long!"

escorpio · 12-06-2009, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

lazycash · 12-06-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Lol, now if you can just throw in a few lines from Robbie about how he's made millions and we don't know what we are talking about, the video will then summarize the entire thread.

Warren · 12-06-2009, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Lol, now if you can just throw in a few lines from Robbie about how he's made millions and we don't know what we are talking about, the video will then summarize the entire thread.

Spot on!

CunningStunt · 12-06-2009, 02:01 AM

Nicely done Mutt.

Bump this bitch like the pinball wizard.

Mutt · 12-06-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Nicely done Mutt.

Bump this bitch like the pinball wizard.

i'd love to take credit for it .......... but i can't

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-06-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

That is too friggin' funny!!!

ADG

MoreMagic · 12-06-2009, 02:56 AM

Thank you so much, what ever going to happen you made my day.

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Originally Posted by Mutt

xenigo · 12-06-2009, 03:01 AM

None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong.

You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that.

If someone tried to do that to me, I'd shit-can you too.

Having affiliates means having people generating traffic for me. Not having affiliates exploit my pre-existing marketing to generate money for you. Do you firmly understand that's the definition of cyber-squatting? Exploitation of someone else's sweat... and your direct benefit? You DO understand that courts will NOT rule in your favor... correct? Cyber squatters do not have any legal ground to stand on.

Zyber · 12-06-2009, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

Brilliant video!!

Has Dirty D paid yet?

Alky · 12-06-2009, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong.

You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that.

If someone tried to do that to me, I'd shit-can you too.

Having affiliates means having people generating traffic for me. Not having affiliates exploit my pre-existing marketing to generate money for you. Do you firmly understand that's the definition of cyber-squatting? Exploitation of someone else's sweat... and your direct benefit? You DO understand that courts will NOT rule in your favor... correct? Cyber squatters do not have any legal ground to stand on.

Courts have already ruled before that trademarks can be bid on, do some research.

xenigo · 12-06-2009, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Alky

Courts have already ruled before that trademarks can be bid on, do some research.

Logic would dictate that one would not be paid for sending such PPC.

Let me ask you... would YOU pay for an affiliate to send you your OWN traffic?

No.

That's why this thread should not exist. Because Shoehorn, or whatever he calls himself, is basically committing fraud. Nothing needs to exist in a Terms of Service agreement that would basically convey logic. You don't say to yourself "ahh, as an affiliate I know I can generate traffic this program isn't generating themselves by bidding on their own name!" The way you come to that conclusion is by thinking "ahh, as an affiliate I know I can pull the wool over this program's eyes by capitalizing off their own hard work!"

That is the reason this is a fucking retarded thread.

Sorry, but there is no program that will allow this. Period. End of story. No TOS needed.

The Ghost · 12-06-2009, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong.

You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that.

If someone tried to do that to me, I'd shit-can you too.

Having affiliates means having people generating traffic for me. Not having affiliates exploit my pre-existing marketing to generate money for you. Do you firmly understand that's the definition of cyber-squatting? Exploitation of someone else's sweat... and your direct benefit? You DO understand that courts will NOT rule in your favor... correct? Cyber squatters do not have any legal ground to stand on.

People bid on "someone elses" keywords all the time to rank higher. Some sites welcome it, since they have a hard time ranking for search terms for their own site names.

Simply update terms and pay for the real joins.

xenigo · 12-06-2009, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Ghost

People bid on "someone elses" keywords all the time to rank higher. Some sites welcome it, since they have a hard time ranking for search terms for their own site names.

Simply update terms and pay for the real joins.

That's NOT the problem. You are avoiding the debate here. The problem is THIS: The guy was generating ALL of his joins with the keyword being the NAME of the site alone. Not for terms that they couldn't rank #1 on, terms that they DID rank #1 on.

That is not allowed by ANY program. Period!

Every domain I own is #1 in the SE's for that term. Any affiliate who tries to send me my own traffic is going to be canned just like Shoehorn. End of story. Cut and dry.

moeloubani · 12-06-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

That's NOT the problem. You are avoiding the debate here. The problem is THIS: The guy was generating ALL of his joins with the keyword being the NAME of the site alone. Not for terms that they couldn't rank #1 on, terms that they DID rank #1 on.

That is not allowed by ANY program. Period!

Every domain I own is #1 in the SE's for that term. Any affiliate who tries to send me my own traffic is going to be canned just like Shoehorn. End of story. Cut and dry.

Yeah but you're still being used to make someone else money since they can still bid on your keywords, the only difference being you're now not making anything off it.

Great idea, genius.

okny · 12-06-2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

That was great

But the one about gfy was too fucking funny i cried watching it

knobish · 12-06-2009, 04:20 AM

Some mainstream programs allow it, I wouldnt be surprised if some adult affiliates have realized that there is some value to it as well, whether you already have an organic 1st place position or not.

Does noone see the value in having 2 listings for your keyphrase since the user has just been served up a page with plenty of options, inclusive of competitors and paid ads that may be more enticing than the 1st organic search result?

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Originally Posted by xenigo

That's NOT the problem. You are avoiding the debate here. The problem is THIS: The guy was generating ALL of his joins with the keyword being the NAME of the site alone. Not for terms that they couldn't rank #1 on, terms that they DID rank #1 on.

That is not allowed by ANY program. Period!

Every domain I own is #1 in the SE's for that term. Any affiliate who tries to send me my own traffic is going to be canned just like Shoehorn. End of story. Cut and dry.

katharos · 12-06-2009, 04:21 AM

moneyyyzzzzz ... ?

Alky · 12-06-2009, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

That's NOT the problem. You are avoiding the debate here. The problem is THIS: The guy was generating ALL of his joins with the keyword being the NAME of the site alone. Not for terms that they couldn't rank #1 on, terms that they DID rank #1 on.

That is not allowed by ANY program. Period!

Every domain I own is #1 in the SE's for that term. Any affiliate who tries to send me my own traffic is going to be canned just like Shoehorn. End of story. Cut and dry.

so you'd rather i bid on your terms and send them to a different site?

you do realize that review sites probably get the majority of their traffic from the same method, except that's just seo. just because someone types in xyz into google doesn't mean they want to go to xyz.com.

suesheboy · 12-06-2009, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Forest

i bet this thread alone has cost him 10x what it would have cost to pay off the orig op

try 100 times or more...

suesheboy · 12-06-2009, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CunningStunt

Robbie looks like a pouting Dr Evil with a hair transplant.

Added to ignore list.

Bump.

Actually the avatar is perfect for him. He looks like a arrogant self centered know it all whose shit doesn't stink but is actually a douche bag.

Besides learning about HowIrobbedYou.com in this thread and to avoid him at all costs, I learned about the true nature of Robbie who was never on my radar before and to avoid him in business too.

knobish · 12-06-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by suesheboy

try 100 times or more...

lol over 13,000 views. Being new to the porn industry myself, this is the first post of this kind ive seen (havent ever seen a mainstream equiv to gfy) this post is definitely sticking out in my mind, and if I ever ran this dudes ads, Id be worried about getting paid. Unfortunate, cause Im down with the crackwhore niche

Im just starting to wondering if he can't afford to pay up, or just doesnt want to at this point.

The Ghost · 12-06-2009, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

That's NOT the problem. You are avoiding the debate here. The problem is THIS: The guy was generating ALL of his joins with the keyword being the NAME of the site alone. Not for terms that they couldn't rank #1 on, terms that they DID rank #1 on.

That is not allowed by ANY program. Period!

Every domain I own is #1 in the SE's for that term. Any affiliate who tries to send me my own traffic is going to be canned just like Shoehorn. End of story. Cut and dry.

Saying it is not allowed by any program is untrue. When an affiliate runs adword campaigns they have a whole gambit of keywords to try. Yes, in this instance the joins were based off the domain keywords. But that is not always the case.

Everyone wishes there were no competition for their keywords. When you run a program you make terms for situations like this. You can't forsee everything, since situations change. As they change you update your terms. It's that simple. It's ok to not like it but to not pay on a proven advertising method for real joins isn't right. Calling it fraud is completely wrong.

Some programs actually run their own ads on their own keywords to provide an alternative SE join point for surfers. There are surfers that prefer ads and convinced to click by that text.

12-05-2009, 09:01 PM	#854
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12-05-2009, 09:04 PM	#856
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12-05-2009, 09:07 PM	#857
Playboy-Deak Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 354	Dirty D thinks this bad publicity is good publicity. This thread may get googled and when someone types in howigotrich this thread will be listed... Dirty D is probably somewhere tooting lines of coke off this shit, cussing ppl out, and throwing tantrums... He's jus too full of himself to see outside his own view... May even be a lil antisocial... I jus wonder how his program is doing since this thread blew? I actually thought he was a cool guy, saw him partying it up in a few videos with some broads... But now, it really appears he's delusional... Sorta like Hitler b4 he died... __________________ Black Hoes Pussy -Deak: King of Black Amateur Porn!

12-05-2009, 09:15 PM	#859
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	unbelievable how either dumb or shady this guy is - i'm gonna assume since he's built a fairly popular program that he's not dumb. you've had the issue explained to you by shoehorn and a hundred other people, many of them who probably don't even know shoehorn - he was not breaking any rules, he was doing what hundreds of other webmasters do. you don't like what he was doing, too fucking bad, you never told him that until after the fact, using trademarks/domain keyword phrases is done all the time in this industry for PPC ads, so don't try comparing it to shady practices like carding that are universally unacceptable by all programs. change your Terms, pay him, and move on. There is NO PRINCIPLE here for you, there is for Shoehorn. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-05-2009, 09:24 PM	#860
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12-05-2009, 09:33 PM	#862
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	i don't think he cares. he's probably doing a fat line using a $440 dollar bill and laughing ....

12-05-2009, 10:28 PM	#866
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,373	Shoehorn, I'll give you a little tip. Search Google for "Curiouscash" and see which board ranks well... post there and you're pretty much guaranteed the thread will be on G, and ranked well, within hours.

12-06-2009, 12:57 AM	#874
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Been paid yet?

12-06-2009, 12:57 AM	#875
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	__________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

12-06-2009, 01:08 AM	#878
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12-06-2009, 02:01 AM	#882
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Nicely done Mutt. Bump this bitch like the pinball wizard.

12-06-2009, 03:01 AM	#886
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	None of you know fuck-all about what you're talking about. These things need not be discussed in "TOS" because is a fucking difference between fucking right and wrong. You do NOT go and bid someone's terms for keywords they already rank #1 on, and expect them not to shit-can you as an affiliate. Black and white. Straight forward. Simple as that. If someone tried to do that to me, I'd shit-can you too. Having affiliates means having people generating traffic for me. Not having affiliates exploit my pre-existing marketing to generate money for you. Do you firmly understand that's the definition of cyber-squatting? Exploitation of someone else's sweat... and your direct benefit? You DO understand that courts will NOT rule in your favor... correct? Cyber squatters do not have any legal ground to stand on.

12-06-2009, 04:21 AM	#895
katharos So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,515	moneyyyzzzzz ... ?