50 date formats :)

Here ya go!

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echo date();
echo time();

?>

Hmmm ignore that... I thought one would need to be a forward sort and one a reverse sort, but I was wrong. Both these sample dates sort the same way if you do a forward sort...

2009-10-01
2009-10-02

01-10-2009
02-10-2009

This argument about how you say it is nonsense.

If someone asked me today's date I'd say is was the 2nd of December. (02/12/2009).

You guys in the US say it like that because that's how you incorrectly write it down :1orglaugh

of course it makes more sense having the day first

Am from the UK and I've never ever seen money written like you are suggesting the whole of Europe does.

Oh and date wise. It's so should be d/m/y simply because you dont do hours/seconds/minutes. That's just logic in my opinion. Days go into Months, and Months go into Years so I'll stand by d/m/y. However I agree that when writing it out I prefer to write December 1st 2009 but not if just numerical.

If you're from the UK, spot Oregon. :2 cents:

The UK is just a little smaller than the state of Oregon and just as irrelevant to you as the UK is to us. I can't stand it when people use the "find it on a map" argument. Expecting average Americans to find another country that is completely irrelevant to them is just stupid.

Yes, Europeans can find more countries on a map. They should be able to considering it takes numerous countries to equal the geographic size of the US and those countries are their neighbors. We have two neighbors, Canada and Mexico. Those are the only two that are relevant to Americans...and they both drive on the right side of the road btw.

I like the date thing. For filing, the month first allows you to find your file easier.... :2 cents:


But why are the Brits the only ones to drive on the right side of the road, literally! :thumbsup

They aren't the only ones but close.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-_...t-hand_traffic

reading this shit is worse than listening to star trek weirdos argue about something that isnt real

Pretty much everywhere else does it the other way around and it does get confusing when dealing with people from different parts of the world. Especially when a date could be read two ways. For example, the 5th of May. If it is written 5/5 and I am not totally sure who wrote it I have to really think.

As far as what is natural, I am so used to saying '5th of May' as I just did rather than May 5th that it now feels odd to write dates in the American style. Neither is wrong just what makes language interesting.

The only place in the UK I ever see , used instead of . in a price is in Ikea. So, that is weird even to the British but I guess it is done in other parts of Europe.

Though I assume you're trolling, sadly the US seems to have a disproportionate amount of people who actually think that way.

No, I am not trolling. Not even a little bit. I can find more places on a map than most Americans because I have traveled since I was a kid. If I hadn't I can completely understand not knowing where irrelevant places are. Why would the average American need to know where the UK is? We can't get there by car. Knowing its location seems trivial to me. I mean, who cares?

Yea you better........ idiot. :1orglaugh

That is the one we use here too.

Good explanation. Thank god we use the logic here.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh good idea

That would be fine if the world actually wasn't relevant to the average American but just being ignorant of the rest of the world doesn't make it irrelevant. Ask the troops, ask anybody that works for an international company, ask anybody that buys any goods manufactured somewhere other than their own country. The world is relevant and then apart from that there is just the desire to have a decent education in which geography is one part.

To THEM it may be relevant but the average American doesn't need to know how to find European countries on a map. That ability is trivial. Like I said, the US has a land mass greater than most of the countries in western Europe combined. Ask Europeans if they can find West Virginia or Oregon on a map. If they can't, chastise them and disregard their opinions. That's the holier-than-thou attitude Americans have had to tolerate for a long time.

Britain has used the left since roman times.

Being an American living in the UK, I totally understand that the average British person, for example, doesn't have more than a vague idea of the map of the USA when you get away from the big cities or tourist destinations. Nearly every time I am asked where I am from and say Philadelphia I have to follow it up with 'it is bellow New York but above Washington, D.C.'.

However, one is a part within a country and the other is an entire country. It also really doesn't matter is somebody that calls themselves an 'average' American thinks that the rest of thee world is irrelevant to them. They are wrong. Finding anybody in the the Western world whose life was not impacted in some way by another country is going to be very hard in a global economy. Why on earth would one want to champion the cause of ignorance? Surely we should want people,wherever they live, to have the best education they can have and that includes - as I said - geography.

Eh, thats the same tolerant Americans who are still considered ignorant and thick by the rest of the world whose isolationist attitudes made them late in entering the parties called world war one and world war two? (BTW dont give me that crap about the US winning WW2, we had to pay you guys and only just paid off the debt a couple of years back, the US was a mercenary force). And whose isolationist attitudes and foreign policies currently has seen the growth of anti-american feelings range from anti-capitalist attacks on the likes of McDonalds and Starbucks to the growth of terrorism.

BTW, i could point out West Virginia or Oregon on a map, could you show me where East Sussex or Suffolk is?

incorrect

MOvie: Born on the 4th "OF" July - see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096969/

Macy's 4th "OF" July Fireworks Spectacular - see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1473398/

Excerpt from Wikipedia - "In the United States, Independence Day, commonly known as the Fourth of July"

And on the USA.gov website even it says "Fourth of July is Independence Day" - see http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Independence_Day.shtml

It is not EuroSpeak - I have traveled a huge chunk of the world, and for the MOST part the peoples of the world use DAY/MONTH/YEAR

I think the Mayans weren't saying the world was over in 2012. I think they knew that we would be all pissed off with two date standards, and we would start a new system from that date ;)

Who cares whether we use Year/Month/Day, or Month/Day/Year or Day/Month/Year... I think in this new internetercized global village that we can all agree to use just one standard

now - is is 10:11 as I type this - is that PM or AM, and could I be up at night at 22:11 hours or did I just have my first cup of coffee

oh the pain.... the pain

I got used to this already..

Ummm - seriously?

Remember Australia?

Remember when the UK joined the EU and dumped Australia (a country that has defended the commonwealth without fail every single time, and shed the lives of our soldiers without hesitation), and the UK gave practically all our export business to the EU

I also remember lining up at Heathrow as an Australian with the Queen on my currency, whilst I watched these old Germans (probably the same old farts that tried to kill my grandfathers) sail past me through the EU line as if they were special guests

The world isn't fair, and the US has done heaps of shit for and against the world. The USA has the best and the worst of everything - that's because it is the new Empire, and you have some sour grapes stuck in your throat for letting your empire dwindle away through ineptitude.

The POMS did way worse to the world IMHO, and giving up on Australia was (for me) the final straw

As an Aussie who used to want to defend the Queen and our Commonwealth - eat me!

To my Yankee mates - love your country ;)

But watch out - The Chinese have their sites set on being the next empire already!

I agree with you, the EU was the biggest mistake our government ever made and i wouldn't be suprised if we leave it again within the next ten years, Parties like UKIP make inroads every election. I'm not too sure what you are getting at with the "remember Australia" bit, the input of the AUZ and NZ soldiers are remembered during Rememberance, especially their great war sacrifices.

Saying that Britain did worse to the world is a bit strange, most large european counties had an empire of some sort, for every injustice done by the British, you can find the same for the German, Dutch and French empires, but it was Britain that lead the way in industrial, commercial and social improvements for more than 250 years.

Australia and NZ basically abandoned by the UK government. Did you know that the UK "used" to be one of the biggest buyers of Australian produce and commodities b4 it shit on us with the EU. But thanks anyways for recognizing the dopiest of dopey decisions on the UK joining the EU.

And for history, why not ask the folks from India, China, and even the Yanks about their past relationship with the UK... it hasn't always been a street paved with gold is all I am saying

another way of saying this, is "Pot calling the kettle black"

the only thing I see bad about the states recently in global terms is that they had to suffer under a "interesting" President for so long, and their government is so bloated that its hard to turn a ship that big in any direction. As I said earlier, the Chinese are coming and they can make huge changes very quickly.... I cannot see them not becoming the next empire, not matter what the anti Muslim racists exhort about Islam trying to take over the world by stealth through immigration (case in point Switzerland) also fyi - i am a white Darwinist, so don't start calling me a religious nut.. i just hate racism disguised as anti terrorism

you got the wrong map :winkwink:

http://home.arcor.de/xelnaga/america-sees-world.jpg

i like the US though, i just find it weird that it's one of the only countries left that has to do mostly everything in a different way while it's only like 4% of the world population

yeah, on the continent the decimal point is a comma. However, the OP was incorrect in suggesting the thousands delimiter was a comma - to specify thousands, a space is added.

So in US (but also format for UK) an i7 quad core iMac will cost you
$1,999.99 (a penny short of 2 grand), whereas in continental Europe it's
€1 999,99
(Apple, Inc currency converter applied)

Again, it's a matter of size. Americans should recognize all 50 states and be able to find them on a map with ease (sadly, not all of us can but still...). I'm trying to make the point that the size of the US is equal to many European countries combined. Europeans can recognize those neighboring countries in the same manner Americans recognize neighboring states.

This guy pretty much shuts up everyone. How do you call your independence day?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indepen...ited_States%29

http://www.usa.gov/Topics/Independence_Day.shtml

So, in speaking or in writing .. dd/mm/yyyy makes most sense, or at worst yyyy/mm/dd. Most changing thing should be on one side, and least changing should be on other .. why fucking put most changing term in the middle?

What I believe is Americans ripped off English and British standards just to look different. No offense to anyone .. but if you want to be different, invent your own shit. Just like Arabs and Chinese did.

Or simply admit the fact that you have been a British colony and follow the standards they set. Only change the things that matter or makes difference, making such changes tells that you got a narrow and non-creative mind.

Just my :2 cents:

Dude, I usually agree with what you say .. but here I don't see why put date in the middle.

Plus, you used "how do we say?" as argument .. by same argument, i ask how do you call your independence day?

As it's taught here we entered the war when Japan decided to bomb Pearl Harbor. Germany declared war on the US right about the same time which is when we officially entered the European theater. We declared war on Germany in response to their declaration of war on us. Interesting footnote: I almost wasn't born because my Grandfather was a tailgunner on a bomber that was shot down over Austria. He spent 13 months in a Nazi prison camp.

Can I find East Sussex or Suffolk? Not without Googling it. Can you find Finney County, Kansas without looking it up? It's roughly the same size as Suffolk.

Oh I am late, Evil-Dan already posted it. lol

PS. you fast bastard.

I decided to build a blog instead of trying to figure out the date thing.

Some people are just too thick to spot an obvious wind up :1orglaugh

Surprisingly some intelligent debate in here amongst the normal troll nonsense.

Says the chucklehead who added me to ignore for "an obvious wind up."

Sorry, what?

This message is hidden because Babaganoosh is on your ignore list.

This is all I have to contribute:

Race:
"A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race."

http://www.answers.com/race

:error

You and I both know that isn't the definition that anyone actually uses.

"an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups."

Well, let's see.

For starter's, to understand America's history (why do Americans speak English? why do they celebrate the Fourth of July?), you'll need to know a little bit about the British Empire. That includes knowing where Britain is.

Or what about understanding how America became a superpower? That requires knowledge of WW 1 & 2, which requires knowing where the countries that were involved are.

Speaking of WW2, that involved the deaths of nearly half a million Americans. One might think that perhaps, knowing how, when and where they died might be worth knowing.

But let's assume for a moment that Americans have zero interest in the past, are perfectly content with not knowing the origins of the US, and don't give a damn about the world wars or the Americans who died in them.

Instead, let's look at the present.

Want to understand the world today? Then it might be interesting to know that the UK has a GDP that is twice that of the entire continent of Africa, and twice that of India. Knowing about how western countries compare to non-western countries is rather important if you want to understand the balance of power and wealth in the world.

And what about business? Knowing a bit about the biggest trade partners the US is helpful to just about anyone who does business on an international level, as well as anyone who wants to understand the economy of the US.

Or what about NATO? The US is a member of NATO, and all countries in NATO are obliged to help any of the others if it ever gets invaded. It might just be important for the US to know which countries in the world the US military is obliged to help defend, and just where those countries are.

Etc.

Not knowing the basics of the world means you won't understand most of what's going on even in your own country. Understanding basic things like immigration, outsourcing, world trade, terrorism and foreign policy requires knowing about the world around you.

haha all this from a simple question...

If we feel the definition isn't relevant to us why learn it? ;)

I know. Isn't GFY great? :thumbsup:1orglaugh

Seriously, it's the regular's ability to argue passionately about absolutely anything and everything that keeps me coming here. I love GFY. There's no place like it anywhere else on the internet. I fight incessantly with this bunch of idiots but I love almost all of them.

now that is nonsense - you know that most european countries have states too? Germany has 16 for example

or do you really want to tell me that it is not necessary for any american to know anything about the rest of the world cause the US already has 50 states? is that a kind of brain limitation? :upsidedow

Do you ever do paperwork that asks for your race? What are the options? In the US your choices are caucasian, black, asian, hispanic, native american, middle eastern, etc.

What's your race?
I'm from the UK.
*facepalm*

See my point?