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Old 12-10-2002, 10:51 AM   #1
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The biggest thieves in Porn!

Who are the biggest thieves in Porn from your experience ...
ie: cheap content providers, traffic sellers, mailers, free pay-per-signup sponsors etc
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:53 AM   #2
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About one time a year you will hear about steve goldman . He always say he quit and come back with another program and again after 2 months got problems paying his webmasters
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:55 AM   #3
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If you don't know what you're doing, buying traffic is probably the easiest way to get ripped off.
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Old 12-10-2002, 10:58 AM   #4
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If you don't know what you're doing, buying traffic is probably the easiest way to get ripped off.
And if you *do* know what you're doing be prepared to make enemies.
Theives squeal like pigs when caught and have the ability to spin a good story about how they didn't know hitbot traffic was not allowed.
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Old 12-10-2002, 11:00 AM   #5
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If you don't know what you're doing, buying traffic is probably the easiest way to get ripped off.
yeah

adbuytraffic.com is the fucking worst!
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Old 12-10-2002, 11:02 AM   #6
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Old 12-10-2002, 11:03 AM   #7
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adbuytraffic.com is the fucking worst!
I'll second that...
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Old 12-10-2002, 01:09 PM   #8
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bad for the surfer....good for the webmaster.....
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Old 12-10-2002, 01:17 PM   #9
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bad for the surfer....good for the webmaster.....
Short term mentality. Crescent's actions were not good for the industry. The FTC became active in the adult industry and I am sure Crescent sent alot of surfers heading for the exits from participation in the adult online paysite market.
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Old 12-10-2002, 01:19 PM   #10
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makingbank.com had to be one of the biggest, right? A program like that can do a lot more damage than a shady content provider, designer, or traffic broker. I can't think of any other programs that have blatantly ripped people off.

Now if you're saying total money scammed from webmasters, actually I'd probably say it would be a major player like CEN from all the shaving they've done over the years. Think about the millions of dollars they've stolen from webmasters over time, you can't argue with that.
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Old 12-10-2002, 01:20 PM   #11
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harry bush.. this scumbag webmaster from fla..his real name is bruce
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Old 12-10-2002, 02:01 PM   #12
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Spammers. Selling porn thru unsolicted e-mails, thats stealing money from others(adress owners, other webmasters, telecomunication companies...)
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Old 12-10-2002, 02:37 PM   #13
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Don from VARADOX, he fucked me about 20k, plus 10k my friends, for his bullshit dialer, bad history
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Old 12-10-2002, 05:50 PM   #14
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Spammers. Selling porn thru unsolicted e-mails, thats stealing money from others(adress owners, other webmasters, telecomunication companies...)



I don't like spammers much, but what you just said was stupid. They're not stealing from anyone by selling memberships through e-mails. You sound like one of the people who blame spammers because you can't sell memberships.
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Old 12-10-2002, 06:01 PM   #15
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Short term mentality. Crescent's actions were not good for the industry. The FTC became active in the adult industry and I am sure Crescent sent alot of surfers heading for the exits from participation in the adult online paysite market.
true, but how many players did they end up producing?
how many made their money directly or indirectly as a result and went on to start their own programs?

thieves? yes
reason for a LOT of the wealth in this business? yes


good for the webmaster, bad for the surfer....
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Old 12-10-2002, 09:22 PM   #16
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what was that crescent publishing did?
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Old 12-11-2002, 05:54 AM   #17
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About one time a year you will hear about steve goldman . He always say he quit and come back with another program and again after 2 months got problems paying his webmasters
here he is:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=93118
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Old 12-11-2002, 06:12 AM   #18
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add greg "gregory" lasrado to that list too.
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Old 12-11-2002, 09:08 AM   #19
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add greg "gregory" lasrado to that list too.
http://www.lukeford.com/stars/male/greg_lasrado.htm
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Old 12-12-2002, 10:33 AM   #20
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Adbuytraffic is by far the worst (good traffic in my Sig) - as for Sponsors - Making Bank is the biggest group of thieves that I know of so far..
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