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Old 10-19-2009, 07:50 AM   #1
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Heated Zombaio Thread Deleted?

I guess it got too hot to handle!
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:53 AM   #2
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why did it get "heated"? what happened?
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why did it get "heated"? what happened?
yea, what happened?
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Every time I see that name I think Zombie Scott Baio?

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why did it get "heated"? what happened?

Yeah... anybody got the cliffnotes??
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Every time I see that name I think Zombie Scott Baio?

Just sayin'
Strange, I also get that same thought popping in my head as well.
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A rep from Zombaio introduced himself to the board.

Questions came at him fast and furious!

He cherry-picked a few of them, half answered a couple of them, and totally ignored some as well.

It got REALLY ugly, for numerous pages, while Zombaio still owned the skin.

Eventually the rep just stopped posting, but the drama and insults just kept going.

A few people continued fighting each other within the thread... it was pretty rough!

Guess it had to go....
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Now i want cliffnotes too, because i had lots of advise to join them and get my processing done by them, anyone whos against it speak up now.
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A rep from Zombaio introduced himself to the board.

Questions came at him fast and furious!

He cherry-picked a few of them, half answered a couple of them, and totally ignored some as well.

It got REALLY ugly, for numerous pages, while Zombaio still owned the skin.
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Sounds like some CCbill bros (=faggots) fighting the new competitors.
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This has to be the third time Zombaio has come around GFY.....I think there MIGHT some ulterior motives to that company but I really put a finger on what it is....

If I ever stopped processing with CCBill, I would go with Verotel before I would choose somebody like Zombaio....
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This has to be the third time Zombaio has come around GFY.....I think there MIGHT some ulterior motives to that company but I really put a finger on what it is....

If I ever stopped processing with CCBill, I would go with Verotel before I would choose somebody like Zombaio....
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Sounds like some CCbill bros (=faggots) fighting the new competitors.
you didnt read the thread, i read the whole thing yesterday

you had some (obviously) low-level employee answering good questions in a very condescending, half-assed, full of misspellings way, kimmy kim was asking them questions and he was pretty much calling her an idiot, while he ignored or dodged the questions/points she brought up about how they can process in canada, what a HR-isps is, etc

he told kk she didnt know anything about credit card processing rules lol

very embarrassing thread for them, i dont doubt they would want it gone
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anybody that would continue with them after that thread has to have their head checked
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anybody that would continue with them after that thread has to have their head checked
Sounds like a bad spokesman. Lesson learned.

If I held that solely against almost any company in adult. I would not do business with 95% of them.

The vast majority have had some support issue, rogue employee, hacked, crash, meltdown, or major fuck up at some point in their time in this business.

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Sounds like a bad spokesman. Lesson learned.

If I held that solely against almost any company in adult. I would not do business with 95% of them.

The vast majority have had some support issue, rogue employee, hacked, crash, meltdown, or major fuck up at some point in their time in this business.

you like stats? heres a stat. 95% of billers that enter the online adult market go out of business in their first 7 years

where are you going to put your money?
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where are you going to put your money?
If I went by that remark alone, and made my decisions based on GFY lore. There would only be one choice. CCBill.

I have used them before. Same as I have used others. I will use my own experiences to make decisions on best for the short and long term goals of my business. I come from a pay site owner side and have used a number of processors over the years.

That said, I reiterate what I said. Almost every hosting, program, processor, whatever has had an issue at one time or another since being in business. So you can keep the hype going on this all you like.

But the facts remain that if people judged every company in adult on a single incident, or that logic, 95% would be out of business. Almost every company has dropped the ball, or had some issue at some point.

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This has to be the third time Zombaio has come around GFY.....I think there MIGHT some ulterior motives to that company but I really put a finger on what it is....

If I ever stopped processing with CCBill, I would go with Verotel before I would choose somebody like Zombaio....
May i ask why?
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where are you going to put your money?
Epassporte.
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Nuff said.
so your not using zombaio either?
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Wrong champ.

I use Zombaio. All my 2009 sites have launched with them. I like them. No complaints.

I also still use CCB, and Verotel.
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you didnt read the thread, i read the whole thing yesterday

you had some (obviously) low-level employee answering good questions in a very condescending, half-assed, full of misspellings way, ...
Okay, I stand corrected, then.

Too bad. I noticed quite a few typos in their API docs.
I can tell that their processing works, though. Been making some money with them, as an affiliate.
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you didnt read the thread, i read the whole thing yesterday

you had some (obviously) low-level employee answering good questions in a very condescending, half-assed, full of misspellings way, kimmy kim was asking them questions and he was pretty much calling her an idiot, while he ignored or dodged the questions/points she brought up about how they can process in canada, what a HR-isps is, etc

he told kk she didnt know anything about credit card processing rules lol

very embarrassing thread for them, i dont doubt they would want it gone
Actually that thread was old if I was posting in it, they've come around here a couple of times and skinned the board, but they can never actually answer any questions about how they are PCI compliant, within the card association regulations, etc...

One would think that after this many tries, they would know what the questions are going to be and they would have at least gotten the right answers to post, whether its the way they do business or not.
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https://gfy.com/it/803575-real-zombaio-official-thread.html
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Actually that thread was old if I was posting in it, they've come around here a couple of times and skinned the board, but they can never actually answer any questions about how they are PCI compliant, within the card association regulations, etc...

One would think that after this many tries, they would know what the questions are going to be and they would have at least gotten the right answers to post, whether its the way they do business or not.
There lack of answers in that thread or whenever asked, plus how they treated you as knowing nothing about processing or merchant accounts has had me very hesitant.
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I thought he was talking about one started last week when they skinned again.
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There lack of answers in that thread or whenever asked, plus how they treated you as knowing nothing about processing or merchant accounts has had me very hesitant.
The thread that is linked here is from a dude that did not know anything. Later a valid representative came and answered pretty much all the questions
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where are you going to put your money?

I don't know if they will survive or not but I remember alot of webmasters screaming from the hills that Vertrol wouldn't stand a chance with the way they had there biz set up... I took a chance and processed with them and have alot of money since 2003 with them and they are still going strong!!!!
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I don't know if they will survive or not but I remember alot of webmasters screaming from the hills that Vertrol wouldn't stand a chance with the way they had there biz set up... I took a chance and processed with them and have alot of money since 2003 with them and they are still going strong!!!!
Um unless you got caught up in the whole phone billing or whatever it was German issue. That was them right?
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I don't know if they will survive or not but I remember alot of webmasters screaming from the hills that Vertrol wouldn't stand a chance with the way they had there biz set up... I took a chance and processed with them and have alot of money since 2003 with them and they are still going strong!!!!
Yep. That is the typical GFY board bullshit.

What's worse is that, usually, they are people who are not even program, or pay site owners. So they barely have a clue. Yet they are screaming about processors while still running transactions through ePass, and PP.

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Um unless you got caught up in the whole phone billing or whatever it was German issue. That was them right?
Sure that was them... but the same thing can happen to CCBill or any other processor!
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epass is only 5 or 6 years old and paypal hasn't done adult in quite a while.
Not the point.

EPASS has had a FUCKING TON of bad publicity over those 5-6 years. As has PP. Yet people still use them, and prefer them.

So the fact Zombaio (among countless others) has had a few bad threads, and making a business decision or better yet, whatif assumptions, based on that is simply ridiculous.
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Old 10-19-2009, 07:42 PM   #46
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Sure that was them... but the same thing can happen to CCBill or any other processor!
But you see it did not happen with other processors. It happened with them. That cost many people thousands to hundreds of thousands of dollars overnight. They were not to keen on working with people either over the problem.

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Not the point.

EPASS has had a FUCKING TON of bad publicity over those 5-6 years. As has PP. Yet people still use them, and prefer them.
Many have also dropped them from personal to business levels. People have lost untold sums of cash to them and fraud issues by users. That is apples and oranges though as they do not process for our sites, nor are responsible for rebills and holds.

Yes paypal has had issues, they left adult which was not really fucking anyone out of anything but some time and well OK people may have lost rebills. Not sure how the rebills played out with them since by the time I was adding them to a paysite they pulled out so they were only live on content sites for me. Never lost a penny.
I have had disputes with them, had account locked more than once. Never have I had them take my money though. Plus I have always followed their TOS for the most part. One time I made a mistake and the other party turned us both in. Paypal still reinstated my account with very little hassle and mind you I broke their rules.

I am not hating on the big Z. Hell I would love more solid billers. We can have our doubts still and not be either haters or idiots.
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Many have also dropped them from personal to business levels. People have lost untold sums of cash to them and fraud issues by users. That is apples and oranges though as they do not process for our sites, nor are responsible for rebills and holds.
I was addressing whatif's remark about "who you trust with your money", and posted to EPASS and PP who many trust with their money, and there have been many board complaints over the years.

No more. No less.

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True dat chief.
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