Adult billers, how do you explain Zombaio undercutting you by more than half? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Barefootsies · 10-14-2009, 09:47 PM

Fiddy.

Sig.

Sausage · 10-14-2009, 09:54 PM

Amazing what a little competition does isn't it ;)

Been with them for 6 months now, no issues here. Payments regular as clockwork.

Sebastian Sands · 10-14-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

CCB also vigoriously fights charge backs from what I hear. But when they win a dispute, you do not get the money back. They just keep it.

Is this true? How do you know. If so then that is pretty messed up.

Sausage · 10-14-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

i want to give it some time before i decide about zombaio, lets say 2 years, maybe more, ive seen some really bad posts about them

... and ....

This is where you post some links and proof of these bad things you have seen btw. Curious minds want to know. I couldn't find anything ... links please.

jcsike · 10-14-2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

... and ....

This is where you post some links and proof of these bad things you have seen btw. Curious minds want to know. I couldn't find anything ... links please.

sure, first rule of thumb for me is to be wary of new processors, no exceptions. you really have to earn my trust with processing

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Originally Posted by areagirls

Out of the many thousands of sites/sponsors I've categorized for WhoPaidMe I think I've only ever seen one site that used Zombaio, and they hated it so they switched back.

There might be more though that use them as a backend that I wasn't aware of.

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Originally Posted by xenigo

I'm calling. Pick it up. Thanks. 40+ minutes on hold so far.

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Originally Posted by InsaneMidget

Used them awhile ago, setup a paysite and had a few affiliates sending traffic. After a few days realized their affiliate system didn't give affiliates credit for any sales so they never got a payout. When it was time for them to make wire transfers to us, every time it was weeks late and took 3-5 phone calls each time to get it settled between them and our bank. At one point, we waited over a month PAST the date we were suppose to receive the payment. They just put blame on their headquarters in Sweden. At the time they also seemed to have a chip on their shoulder when taking criticism, like I was bothering them by telling them their affiliate script was not functional. After waiting months for them to fix it, they constantly told me their programming team was working on it. Fuck them, go with ccbill, epoch, or your own merchant account for paysites.

Jesper you can suck my cock.

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Originally Posted by jcowens2007

Yeaaaah... I am on the cusp of signing up for them. I sent a simple sales questions 3 days ago..no response. I followed up with a call to the sale dept. They said they would get an answer for me today....

6pm est...still no reply. Hmmm..

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Originally Posted by xenigo

I sent them an email yesterday at around 7:30pm Pacific, and I haven't gotten a reply either.

Ok I'll just say what my question is: Epoch has text they want on every page of your site that says "Please visit Epoch.com, our authorized sales agent." I'm not sure what the text needs to be for Zombaio. I'm sure they require something similar, right?

Anyone know?

will76 · 10-14-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

sure, first rule of thumb for me is to be wary of new processors, no exceptions. you really have to earn my trust with processing

I wouldn't call that " really bad posts". To me, really bad posts are stuff like:

- My check is a couple weeks late.
- They have been down for "x" amount of time.
etc....

somene saying they haven't seen them on many other sites, or they know someone who wasn't happy with it, someone didn't get back with me... etc... not good posts about a company. I guess "really bad" means different things to different people.

Phil · 10-14-2009, 11:00 PM

Zombaio: any other options paying out besides wire transfer?

jcsike · 10-14-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

I wouldn't call that " really bad posts". I guess "really bad" means different things to different people.

i may be looking at it from a different perspective than you.

here is now i see it. 10 years. 35 or so billers attempted this game. 4 billers still around. you put your money with the wrong biller, you lose all the rebills youve invested and you start from scratch again

your risk of waiting around for a few years until your comfortable is 5%, if you fuck up and lose your money + everyone laughs at you for being an idiot and playing against the odds

jcsike · 10-14-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by will76

I wouldn't call that " really bad posts". To me, really bad posts are stuff like:

- My check is a couple weeks late.
- They have been down for "x" amount of time.

will those are not bad posts those are fatal "oh lord what the fuck have i done" posts

perhaps im not as cavalier with my finances and lifeline as you mr fortune won/fortune lost

NinjaSteve · 10-14-2009, 11:11 PM

The fees are nice sure and Thomas responded to my ICQs pretty quickly each time, but I'm using CCBill because it's been around for a long time and pays out to my affiliates and to me. (I don't remember if Zombaio does this).

For those that say they've been using Zombaio for months or a year+ I wish you would have some links in your signature or post links to your affiliate program. I'm interested in seeing it in action.

Sausage · 10-15-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

sure, first rule of thumb for me is to be wary of new processors, no exceptions. you really have to earn my trust with processing

Though where are the posts you referred to. I am sending sales through them in my cascade and your post was pretty clear that you had read many bad posts about them. Please can you post the links up ... you were 100% clear in what you wrote.

If there is something we should know please share. You have made enough comments to sew the seeds in my mind anyway, and give the impression they aren't all that stable, the least you can do is give some links or some credible information or even leads so we can look into it.

jcsike · 10-15-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Though where are the posts you referred to. I am sending sales through them in my cascade and your post was pretty clear that you had read many bad posts about them. Please can you post the links up ... you were 100% clear in what you wrote.

If there is something we should know please share. You have made enough comments to sew the seeds in my mind anyway, and give the impression they aren't all that stable, the least you can do is give some links or some credible information or even leads so we can look into it.

all the posts i quoted were from gfy during the past few months, you can do a search for the keywords in the quote for the exact url, they are on this board, i assure you

xenigo · 10-15-2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sausage

Though where are the posts you referred to. I am sending sales through them in my cascade and your post was pretty clear that you had read many bad posts about them. Please can you post the links up ... you were 100% clear in what you wrote.

If there is something we should know please share. You have made enough comments to sew the seeds in my mind anyway, and give the impression they aren't all that stable, the least you can do is give some links or some credible information or even leads so we can look into it.

A couple of the posts he quoted were from a problem I was having getting in contact with them. I should note that it was a one-time occurrence and every time I've tried to contact them since, I've had no issues.

Every experience I've had with them since has been a good one.

Trixxxia · 10-15-2009, 03:23 AM

xenigo, do you know if Jesper is still with them? If yes, do you have his contact info? Thanks

Barefootsies · 10-15-2009, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

sure, first rule of thumb....

You're a little early.

By two years, to be exact.

Pipecrew · 10-15-2009, 05:21 AM

1 million new biller threads/companies and skins and contests over the years. At the end of the day, it is always the same 2-3 standing.

nekrom · 10-15-2009, 06:22 AM

I've been fucked over by numerous billers over the last 8 years, the same as many others have been as well, no doubt.

I added zombaio to my cascade on the 29/01/2008 and am still using them today with no issues. Come 29th of Jan next year and that will be two years using them.

Now I can't be sure of what the future will bring, but as of current, I do feel comfortable in using them.

-N

will76 · 10-15-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

i may be looking at it from a different perspective than you.

here is now i see it. 10 years. 35 or so billers attempted this game. 4 billers still around. you put your money with the wrong biller, you lose all the rebills youve invested and you start from scratch again

your risk of waiting around for a few years until your comfortable is 5%, if you fuck up and lose your money + everyone laughs at you for being an idiot and playing against the odds

preaching to the choir.... i've lost money with drm/web800 10 years ago, glowbill, and ibill. I wont touch segpay because it is basically the same people running it that ran/owned ibill.

The "really bad posts" you found about zombaio I am sure could be found about ccbill as well. I am sure some people on here have had problems with them too.

It seems to come down to 1 thing. ccbill has been around for 12+ years so they proved they are doing something right. zombiao has been around 2-3 years, they are still new. All in all I would say 99.9% of the posts I have seen about them so far was good. Does this mean they wont go out of business? no. But you can't guarantee that ccbill wont go out of business either. A lot of people thought ibill was too big and had been around for a long time so they were ok too, that didn't turn out good obviously.

No matter which company you go with you take a risk. This thread was about why does ccbill and other third party processors charge 15%+ processing fees. So it sounds like from you and everyone else they do and can mainly because they have been in business for over 12 years.

jcsike · 10-15-2009, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

This thread was about why does ccbill and other third party processors charge 15%+ processing fees. So it sounds like from you and everyone else they do and can mainly because they have been in business for over 12 years.

i just think its weird that pretty much all the processors(ccbill/epoch/ibill/etc) charges the same amount, thus that was the market rate, then this one processor, zombaio comes out with what seems like a lower rate

just want time to pass to make sure they know what they are doing, they still need to build up credibility, id like see some big programs using them as well first

will76 · 10-15-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jcsike

i just think its weird that pretty much all the processors(ccbill/epoch/ibill/etc) charges the same amount, thus that was the market rate, then this one processor, zombaio comes out with what seems like a lower rate

just want time to pass to make sure they know what they are doing, they still need to build up credibility, id like see some big programs using them as well first

We all know the round about numbers, what they are paying to visa and what they are collecting from their clients. If ccbill has its own jet and is making hundreds of millions of dollars, that right there tells you that there is a lot of profit that could be cut out by another company who is aggressively looking to get some market share of their own. If Zombaio charged 15% why in the hell would any one want to use them instead of ccbill? They knew they had to offer much better, competitve rates to try to get some market share and get people to want to try them. Why all the others offer a much higher rate like ccbill does? I guess the simple answer is because they can and they are happy making a lot of money.

Even if some huge companies uses Zombaio, it doesn't mean they wont crash and burn 2 years from now. A lot of really big companies used ibill. Ibill was around for what 8-9 years ? It's a gamble when you deal with any 3rd party processor. That's why after being burned 3 times over 3 years I not only shut down my own membership sites I stopped promoting revshare all together. The only thing you are truely safe on is pps. What attracted me to Zombaio was that they had been around for a couple years and I couldn't find any "major" bad feed back about them. Also nice to not have to pay the $750 Visa fee. I got everything set up in just a couple hours. I am not promoting the site a lot but so far everything seems to be going well.

I can tell you this much, if Zombaio turns out to be a solid company and eats up market share over the next 5+ years I bet the other 3rd party processors start to lower their rates across the board.

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NinjaSteve Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,089	The fees are nice sure and Thomas responded to my ICQs pretty quickly each time, but I'm using CCBill because it's been around for a long time and pays out to my affiliates and to me. (I don't remember if Zombaio does this). For those that say they've been using Zombaio for months or a year+ I wish you would have some links in your signature or post links to your affiliate program. I'm interested in seeing it in action. __________________ ...

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nekrom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Australia/Asia Posts: 921	I've been fucked over by numerous billers over the last 8 years, the same as many others have been as well, no doubt. I added zombaio to my cascade on the 29/01/2008 and am still using them today with no issues. Come 29th of Jan next year and that will be two years using them. Now I can't be sure of what the future will bring, but as of current, I do feel comfortable in using them. -N __________________ Free Traffic

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Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Amazing what a little competition does isn't it ;) Been with them for 6 months now, no issues here. Payments regular as clockwork.

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10-15-2009, 05:21 AM	#66
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	1 million new biller threads/companies and skins and contests over the years. At the end of the day, it is always the same 2-3 standing.