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Mutt · 10-07-2009, 11:29 AM

June-October 2008 vs June-October 2009 Decline Stats

there is no difference - declines on new joins marginally up, declines on rebills marginally down

now post a screencap of MattsModels CCBILL decline stats or you just like to talk out of your ass

fatfoo · 10-07-2009, 11:37 AM

So it does decline, from looking at these stats. More failed amounts %.

Mutt · 10-07-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fatfoo

So it does decline, from looking at these stats. More failed amounts %.

ONE per cent increase - hardly destroying the industry.

dyna mo · 10-07-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

ONE per cent increase - hardly destroying the industry.

it's a ~15% increase

Mutt · 10-07-2009, 11:58 AM

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it's a ~15% increase

going from 12 to 13% to me is a one per cent increase in declines but i see what you're saying - in a horrible economy i'd take that as a major victory.

dyna mo · 10-07-2009, 11:59 AM

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- in a horrible economy i'd take that as a major victory.

i agree with you entirely.

andrej_NDC · 10-07-2009, 12:04 PM

And don't forget one thing, some of the declined come through at the 2nd try, but its still a decline in stats, so real decline stats could be easily 30-50% lower.

andrej_NDC · 10-07-2009, 12:07 PM

But your rebills aren't over $30, correct? The denial rate would be much higher with those. No clue why, but lately there is a problem to rebill at 34.95 or more. People are so fucked.

Shap · 10-07-2009, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

June-October 2008 vs June-October 2009 Decline Stats

there is no difference - declines on new joins marginally up, declines on rebills marginally down

now post a screencap of MattsModels CCBILL decline stats or you just like to talk out of your ass

The difference on ours is much greater than that. It started November 2008.

andrej_NDC · 10-07-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shap

The difference on ours is much greater than that. It started November 2008.

Thats the price issue I was talking about. The higher the rebill price, the more declines...I didn't think people are so broke right now or if its something else.

andrej_NDC · 10-07-2009, 12:28 PM

I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.

Shap · 10-07-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.

Netbilling is already doing that.

Shoplifter · 10-07-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.

Ibill used to retry rebills 3 times. But that was back in the day, and that sort of thing may not be allowed any more. It would be very sweet if it were possible.

andrej_NDC · 10-07-2009, 12:41 PM

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Ibill used to retry rebills 3 times. But that was back in the day, and that sort of thing may not be allowed any more. It would be very sweet if it were possible.

I can't see how it would be an issue...as long as the customer doesn't cancel his membership, I would re-try until forever.

Robbie · 10-07-2009, 12:46 PM

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Netbilling is already doing that.

Yep and we are keeping a lot of good members that way.

They may rebill this month at a much lower price...but the following month it's back to the normal price. And even if they rebilled at $1, I'd rather have that than nothing at all.

signbucks · 10-08-2009, 12:48 AM

thx for proving what most people think

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Originally Posted by Mutt

June-October 2008 vs June-October 2009 Decline Stats

there is no difference - declines on new joins marginally up, declines on rebills marginally down

now post a screencap of MattsModels CCBILL decline stats or you just like to talk out of your ass

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10-07-2009, 12:04 PM	#7
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	And don't forget one thing, some of the declined come through at the 2nd try, but its still a decline in stats, so real decline stats could be easily 30-50% lower.

10-07-2009, 12:07 PM	#8
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	But your rebills aren't over $30, correct? The denial rate would be much higher with those. No clue why, but lately there is a problem to rebill at 34.95 or more. People are so fucked.

10-07-2009, 12:28 PM	#11
andrej_NDC Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 7,760	I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.