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10-07-2009, 10:29 AM

June-October 2008 vs June-October 2009 Decline Stats

there is no difference - declines on new joins marginally up, declines on rebills marginally down

now post a screencap of MattsModels CCBILL decline stats or you just like to talk out of your ass

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10-07-2009, 10:37 AM

So it does decline, from looking at these stats. More failed amounts %.

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10-07-2009, 10:42 AM

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So it does decline, from looking at these stats. More failed amounts %.

ONE per cent increase - hardly destroying the industry.

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10-07-2009, 10:44 AM

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ONE per cent increase - hardly destroying the industry.

it's a ~15% increase
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10-07-2009, 10:58 AM

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it's a ~15% increase

going from 12 to 13% to me is a one per cent increase in declines but i see what you're saying - in a horrible economy i'd take that as a major victory.

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10-07-2009, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

- in a horrible economy i'd take that as a major victory.

i agree with you entirely.
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10-07-2009, 11:04 AM

And don't forget one thing, some of the declined come through at the 2nd try, but its still a decline in stats, so real decline stats could be easily 30-50% lower.
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10-07-2009, 11:07 AM

But your rebills aren't over $30, correct? The denial rate would be much higher with those. No clue why, but lately there is a problem to rebill at 34.95 or more. People are so fucked.
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10-07-2009, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

June-October 2008 vs June-October 2009 Decline Stats

there is no difference - declines on new joins marginally up, declines on rebills marginally down

now post a screencap of MattsModels CCBILL decline stats or you just like to talk out of your ass

The difference on ours is much greater than that. It started November 2008.
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10-07-2009, 11:23 AM

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The difference on ours is much greater than that. It started November 2008.

Thats the price issue I was talking about. The higher the rebill price, the more declines...I didn't think people are so broke right now or if its something else.
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10-07-2009, 11:28 AM

I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.
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10-07-2009, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.

Netbilling is already doing that.
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10-07-2009, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by andrej_NDC

I think one feature is deadly missing on ccbill...if the rebill doesn't come through within lets say 7-10 days, they could try to bill $5 less, wait another 7-10 days and then re-try with $10 less. Not sure how hard it would be to make that happen, but it would surely increase the volume a lot.

Ibill used to retry rebills 3 times. But that was back in the day, and that sort of thing may not be allowed any more. It would be very sweet if it were possible.

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10-07-2009, 11:41 AM

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Ibill used to retry rebills 3 times. But that was back in the day, and that sort of thing may not be allowed any more. It would be very sweet if it were possible.

I can't see how it would be an issue...as long as the customer doesn't cancel his membership, I would re-try until forever.
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10-07-2009, 11:46 AM

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Netbilling is already doing that.

Yep and we are keeping a lot of good members that way.

They may rebill this month at a much lower price...but the following month it's back to the normal price. And even if they rebilled at $1, I'd rather have that than nothing at all.

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10-07-2009, 11:48 PM

thx for proving what most people think

Originally posted by Mutt

June-October 2008 vs June-October 2009 Decline Stats

there is no difference - declines on new joins marginally up, declines on rebills marginally down

now post a screencap of MattsModels CCBILL decline stats or you just like to talk out of your ass

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