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Old 10-06-2009, 05:01 PM   #51
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I would support an attack as long as it was large enough and sustained enough to be effective long term. A sustained bombing campaign that destroyed their infrastructure, industrial and refining capacity and military capabilities would remove them as a threat as long as it was comprehensive enough to completely disable them as a military or economic power.

To put it more simply we should bomb them back into the stone age as rubble does not make trouble. No occupation or nation building necessary.
to bomb their infrastructure isnt enough, you need to kill off this vemonous ideology many terrorists groups have that make them kill kafirs
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I don't think it would make any sense to use ground troops so my enlistment is not likely necessary. I was thinking a high altitude bombing campaign carried out by the air force and a missile campaign launched from naval ships in the Persian Gulf. I would guess US losses would be minimal and that Iran's infrastructure could be completely destroyed within a few weeks.
Just like it already happened... in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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one thing i have to admit, IRAN is fuckd and a threat...but a MUCH MUCH SMALLER THREAT than Pakistan and Saudi arabia..

but obviously US cannot win those wars...since Saudi Arabia could mobilize muslims around the world and would be the biggest war in history...and Pakistan has a scary number of islamic militants and its population is too great...

So i do see many justifyable wars...but dont know how IRAN is the top priority

one thing is for sure...IF IRAN....does something crazy...then all of you in this thread should support the US fucking them up...so i think the US needs IRAN to make the first move
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so i think the US needs IRAN to make the first move
Actually Iran made such a move already: https://gfy.com/16402890-post41.html
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Just like it already happened... in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Obviously they failed to follow that strategy in Iraq........ hence the various troubles the US has had. Afghanistan has very little infrastructure so a bombing campaign would not be very effective. They are already in the stone age so no bombing is required.
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I don't think it would make any sense to use ground troops so my enlistment is not likely necessary. I was thinking a high altitude bombing campaign carried out by the air force and a missile campaign launched from naval ships in the Persian Gulf. I would guess US losses would be minimal and that Iran's infrastructure could be completely destroyed within a few weeks.
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Fact: Iran sees America as an enemy.
Fact: Iran is developing nuclear weapons.
Fact: Iran wants to blow Israel out of the sky
Fact: Most people in Iran hate their government

Okay, heres my two cents and let me remind you my brother currently serves this Country in the US Army.

Iran is spinning out of control and something needs to be done, however this would spark a really really bad world war. For one if America were to attack Iran, Russia would not sit idle and allow US Forces to come to close to their borders. Plus Russia is contracted to build the Nuclear facility's in Iran for enrichment.

Another thing is America does not have the money to go spend on fighting another war, we did a shit job in Iraq and because of Iraq we are failing horribly in Afghanistan.

lol.... btw, who has Iran attacked lately , or last century?

can't say the same of the USA / Israel ...

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you wont stop terror with bombs you will stop it with empathy, food, jobs. respect and equality. They hate you because you have what they want and you wont share all of mankind needs a purpose give them something besides ignorance.

1.47 trillion dollars lol that's big business maybe this war is another ad campaign
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how are u so sure?

so many idiots feel dumb saying things like this when a few years later we see what happens and its too late to take action

even at the time of hitler, many left wing media and experts said he was no threat

many nations warned of al queda and islamic terrorists 30 years ago, but the US took the few attacks for granted and realized now

there has been bombing and hijacking of planes in the name of islamic terrorism since the last 50 years
you missed one small point: the US supported and trained the Taliban so that they did not have to fight the Russians personally in Afghanistan. the same way as they supported Iraq and Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran. in like 9 out of 10 times the US is facing their own weapons from 20 or 30 years ago
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Says who?

you need to stop listening to propaganda, have you not learnt anything?

some of you people are idiots. war is no joke.

and until you are ready to go off and fight yourself or send a child of yours to do so STFU.
Yes..It's ALL propaganda. Idiot..
Lets listen to Metaman and just sit back, wait and see what happens. Because like, radical muslims don't ever do stupid shit on a huge scale.. Oh wait..

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you wont stop terror with bombs you will stop it with empathy, food, jobs. respect and equality. They hate you because you have what they want and you wont share all of mankind needs a purpose give them something besides ignorance.

1.47 trillion dollars lol that's big business maybe this war is another ad campaign
What kind of retarded liberal bullshit is this? Seriously, are you delusional? "Well maybe if we give them hugs they will be nice to us!!" Yes, because humanity is inherently good and people are inherently rational and blah blah blah. Another idiot.
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Military spending bought with borrowed money from China and your homes are all owned by the banks lol

you cant afford a war with Greenland lol


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What kind of retarded liberal bullshit is this? Seriously, are you delusional? "Well maybe if we give them hugs they will be nice to us!!" Yes, because humanity is inherently good and people are inherently rational and blah blah blah. Another idiot.
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Let's bomb everyone!

Obviously that will fix all of our problems!

Awesome logic!

A plan that thought-out can't possibly backfire...
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So when Iran decides they want to come to the UN and talk, the US doesn't want to listen. Instead the US keeps military options on the table and throws fair diplomacy out the door.

The US giving another country demands isn't diplomacy and it's stupid to think that so many people are against hearing Iran's president speak but all for going in and killing Iranians.

What pathetic people some of you are, cowards and ignorant closed minded losers.

No wonder why the US is losing in Afghanistan, with all the military might they have all the weapons and all the money you still can't fight a war with idiots like the ones in here sprouting that Iran needs to be bombed fighting for you and unfortunately for the US (and fortunately for the rest of the world) those with half a clue don't enlist.
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Let's bomb everyone!

Obviously that will fix all of our problems!

Awesome logic!

A plan that thought-out can't possibly backfire...
Lets do nothing. Or wait wait, lets give them hugs! Yes, THAT will fix all of our problems! Stupid liberals
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So when Iran decides they want to come to the UN and talk, the US doesn't want to listen. Instead the US keeps military options on the table and throws fair diplomacy out the door.

The US giving another country demands isn't diplomacy and it's stupid to think that so many people are against hearing Iran's president speak but all for going in and killing Iranians.

What pathetic people some of you are, cowards and ignorant closed minded losers.

No wonder why the US is losing in Afghanistan, with all the military might they have all the weapons and all the money you still can't fight a war with idiots like the ones in here sprouting that Iran needs to be bombed fighting for you and unfortunately for the US (and fortunately for the rest of the world) those with half a clue don't enlist.
Iran decides to come to the UN and talk?? About what? Oh that's right, Ahmadinejad claiming the Holocaust didn't happen. Yea, REAL talking.. You must be included in the "pathetic, cowardly, closeminded" crowd with this kind of stupidity. You sir deserve a double facepalm.

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Iran decides to come to the UN and talk?? About what? Oh that's right, Ahmadinejad claiming the Holocaust didn't happen. Yea, REAL talking.. You must be included in the "pathetic, cowardly, closeminded" crowd with this kind of stupidity. You sir deserve a double facepalm.

Does it matter what he has to say? So you're saying it's better to send your little kid over there to get killed and kill some of their little kids over listening to someone talk?

And just so everyone knows the world thinks the US is a joke right now, no one likes you except Israelis and that's because of the billions in aid they get from you each year, for nothing.

As a country, you guys look like idiots to everyone in the world except yourselves (the Israelis see you as idiots too, as long as you fight their wars for them of course they will). There are obviously people from the US who aren't radical idiots but like I said as a country you guys are straight up losers right now.

You can't really feel good knowing that the whole world looks at the US, shakes their heads and says what a fucking shame.
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Your avatar speaks volumes about your credibility, and source of all of your genius, non-biased, intellectual opinions.

Carry on...
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Your avatar speaks volumes about your credibility, and source of all of your genius, non-biased, intellectual opinions.

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Intellectual opinions with merit
Prove I'm biased(you can't).

Using your logic, you're biased too! Way too easy.
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Does it matter what he has to say? So you're saying it's better to send your little kid over there to get killed and kill some of their little kids over listening to someone talk?

And just so everyone knows the world thinks the US is a joke right now, no one likes you except Israelis and that's because of the billions in aid they get from you each year, for nothing.

As a country, you guys look like idiots to everyone in the world except yourselves (the Israelis see you as idiots too, as long as you fight their wars for them of course they will). There are obviously people from the US who aren't radical idiots but like I said as a country you guys are straight up losers right now.

You can't really feel good knowing that the whole world looks at the US, shakes their heads and says what a fucking shame.
Gotta love this post. I'm trying to pick out a single fact from this incoherent rambling...I can't seem to find one.
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Prove I'm biased(you can't).

Using your logic, you're biased too! Way too easy.
You are a Fox Noise watching drone. Easy!
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You're a CNN watching robot. Too easy
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You're a CNN watching robot. Too easy
Sorry, CNN is too balanced for me - I prefer MSNBC, even though I don't find them biased enough!

So, I am certain I am not the first person to tell you this, but... you are wrong.
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Sorry, CNN is too balanced for me - I prefer MSNBC, even though I don't find them biased enough!

So, I am certain I am not the first person to tell you this, but... you are wrong.
1. I don't watch Fox News but I don't expect you to understand a simple concept.

2. Sure, you can tell me you're wrong if it helps you sleep at night. It's a shame you can't back that up though
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I don't watch Fox News

You don't watch Fox, but you reference them in your avatar... oh yeah, that makes sense.

I don't expect you to understand a simple concept.

Starting WWIII is a simple concept?

Sure, you can tell me you're wrong if it helps you sleep at night. It's a shame you can't back that up though

I DID back it up. I stated that I preferred MSNBC to CNN. You were incorrect.
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Getting the CIA to help support the Iranian students/turn military commanders wouldn't be the worst thing ever given their election farce. Bombing them won't help that much when you'd got a pretty large section of the population that you'd alienate when you could be using them to your advantage.. Striking some sort of deal to keep their oil reserve currency in USD and help stage a coup (again) would be a smarter plan.
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btw, didn't you guys supply arms to them in the past ,,,,?????
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To put it more simply we should bomb them back into the stone age as rubble does not make trouble. No occupation or nation building necessary.
That's what caused the trouble in Afghanistan.
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Having a nuclear reactor (which they are even far from having) is nothing close to having weapons grade stuff. Iran is no threat. I'm so sick and tired of people dying. Why can't we all just get along.
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