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Old 10-02-2009, 11:04 PM   #1
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If you want to commit suicide heres how.

I have seen some weird fucked up shit in my young life but wow.

Doctors do not try to save her life due to a letter saying do not save her life.

http://news.aol.com/article/coroner-...errie%2F697884
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:23 PM   #2
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No words for that, they are paid to do their job regardless of what happens. They should take away their license away for that.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:24 PM   #3
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wow...thats pretty sad....i stopped reading it cause its just going to piss me off even more on a friday night!
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:27 PM   #4
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:32 PM   #5
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:38 AM   #6
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IMO there are people who want to kill themselves and they won't ever be hsppy alive.I fell like if you want to that's on you. I know that depression isn't fun as we all know but I think there are people who have very sad life's and mental issues and we should let them pass if that's what they want. That's probably fucked up but that's how I feel about suicide. She did the right thing with that letter
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:40 AM   #7
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Man the bitch couldn't afford a gun or what?
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:43 AM   #8
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you are a tool, in your young life.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:26 AM   #9
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I'll take that into consideration... thanks!
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:26 AM   #10
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Is this good or bad for health care reform?
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:30 AM   #11
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No words for that, they are paid to do their job regardless of what happens. They should take away their license away for that.
Patients have to consent to treatment. If they explicitly do not consent, there's nothing you can do as a doctor.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:49 AM   #13
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No words for that, they are paid to do their job regardless of what happens. They should take away their license away for that.
Yeah, and it was her life and she did not want to live anymore, who's to tell her she can't kill herself, a doctor? If I did that, and a doctor ignored my request, which was against the law to do... I would sue the fuck out of him and that hospital for unlawful practices.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:55 AM   #14
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Watch Out! You might get sued. I think Martin Luther King Hospital has a pattern on that logo!
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:00 AM   #15
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How so, I think its fucked up however I think its within her rights. Its no different then someone signing a do not revive.
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Patients have to consent to treatment. If they explicitly do not consent, there's nothing you can do as a doctor.
It's the same for nurses and all healthcare professionals.
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Old 10-03-2009, 01:02 PM   #17
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It's the same for nurses and all healthcare professionals.
You might want to look that law up. I'm not trying to out smart you (okay, yes I am ), but I've been thinking about this and I'll bet the laws aren't the same as applied to doctors.

I'm thinking of candy strippers trying to force a procedure LOL!
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:10 PM   #18
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Her life, her choice. Obviously she had thought the whole thing through quite a bit.
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:30 PM   #19
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Nah nobody notices it unless I point it out... Sure I'll be fine.
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It may be different in the UK, but I think here in the US if a doctor thinks you are mentally ill they can get a psyche evaluation and then treat you as if you were not capable of taking care of yourself or deciding for yourself. I'm not saying this person would have had that happen to her, but clearly she was crying out for help. If you want to die, you kill yourself, you don't make a spectacle of it which is exactly what she did.

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Old 10-04-2009, 03:23 AM   #21
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I have seen some weird fucked up shit in my young life but wow.

Doctors do not try to save her life due to a letter saying do not save her life.

http://news.aol.com/article/coroner-...errie%2F697884
They call that the hypocritic oath lol
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It may be different in the UK, but I think here in the US if a doctor thinks you are mentally ill they can get a psyche evaluation and then treat you as if you were not capable of taking care of yourself or deciding for yourself. I'm not saying this person would have had that happen to her, but clearly she was crying out for help. If you want to die, you kill yourself, you don't make a spectacle of it which is exactly what she did.
Yup in the US they can do a couple of things. One being getting an injunction so that they can prove that you are of not sound enough mind to make such a choice. If you have a living will or a few other such contracts, they can also strong arm the legal decision maker into what they way. Then of course if they get a body in with some life, no family etc. They can do whatever the wish to stabilize the person until identity and family is reached. A note alone would not prevent them from doing it, unless they were on your side of the fence.
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Yup in the US they can do a couple of things. One being getting an injunction so that they can prove that you are of not sound enough mind to make such a choice. If you have a living will or a few other such contracts, they can also strong arm the legal decision maker into what they way. Then of course if they get a body in with some life, no family etc. They can do whatever the wish to stabilize the person until identity and family is reached. A note alone would not prevent them from doing it, unless they were on your side of the fence.
Right. Like if it were an elderly person who was clearly in poor health and had been for a long time and she came in with a note on her that said she didn't want any measures taken to save her life, they would probably honor something like that. When a young person comes in and tells them she has drank radiator fluid and wants to die, but wants them to make her comfortable, but not help, it might be reasonable to thing she is not of sound mind.
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Obviously she's looking to make a statement - but geez - antifreeze? There's better and less painful ways to go.
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What can I say... Stupid people deserve what they get.
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Yup in the US they can do a couple of things. One being getting an injunction so that they can prove that you are of not sound enough mind to make such a choice. If you have a living will or a few other such contracts, they can also strong arm the legal decision maker into what they way. Then of course if they get a body in with some life, no family etc. They can do whatever the wish to stabilize the person until identity and family is reached. A note alone would not prevent them from doing it, unless they were on your side of the fence.
Getting an injunction takes too long to save the life of someone who's in acute danger, and while a note alone isn't enough, a note handed by the person themselves is.
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