Why not tell surfer the price upfront? - GoFuckYourself.com

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 12:30 PM

How come on any of the join now text on paysites do they say "join now for $1.00" etc except on join page? Why dont you put the amount of content available for a shoot etc? Like it shows trailer or sample pics but also say there is 400 pics with this update and the runtime is 30:00 minutes? I think that many surfers are stupid and believe that what they see is what you got. They dont read the shit on the join page they just see signup form and back out because they are suprised you are asking for money and the amount if you tell them up front price and what the content you have is they may buy more. At least that works on clip sites which have hardly any kind of preview at all.

Pleasurepays · 10-03-2009, 01:36 PM

this is an industry built on deceit.

as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here.

thank you

DaddyHalbucks · 10-03-2009, 01:37 PM

...cause you'll have more money in the bank to defend an FTC probe if you do not?

?

Iron Fist · 10-03-2009, 01:42 PM

Because when they detect "TeenCat", they purposely remove the $1 join price.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-03-2009, 01:44 PM

surfer alert

'mo · 10-03-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

this is an industry built on deceit.

as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here.

thank you

I think I just got a little dumber by clicking that link in your sig.

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

this is an industry built on deceit.

as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here.

thank you

haha well how come this works for clip stores? Some clips cost more than your monthly membership but they sale...Also adult industry where is micropayments? Will you leave all innovation to apple and tubes? Us surfers got cc in hand, so do tell...

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks

...cause you'll have more money in the bank to defend an FTC probe if you do not?

?

lol haha first time i see something other than "right here bro" from you good job for trying today

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 01:55 PM

When will you make it easy to buy your porn tube clips get boring so we upgrade to pornhub premium and im still not satisfied

Pleasurepays · 10-03-2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

haha well how come this works for clip stores? Some clips cost more than your monthly membership but they sale...Also adult industry where is micropayments? Will you leave all innovation to apple and tubes? Us surfers got cc in hand, so do tell...

it was a sarcastic way of saying this industry is run by juvenile shitheads, who are proud of their adversarial relationships with their own market and with no concept of how to sell something by being honest and upfront and truthful and building customers for the long term. its a business that has always done almost nothing but trick people once and hope they forget to cancel as they continually hunt for new people to trick.

EthnicLover · 10-03-2009, 02:05 PM

I don't understand your question.

Do you want to know why tours do not put the exact monthly membership amount on the tour?

Some do but most don't. However the price is displayed on the sign-up page.

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

it was a sarcastic way of saying this industry is run by juvenile shitheads, who are proud of their adversarial relationships with their own market and with no concept of how to sell something by being honest and upfront and truthful and building customers for the long term. its a business that has always done almost nothing but trick people once and hope they forget to cancel as they continually hunt for new people to trick.

i think that sums it up, nothing else to see here i guess

crockett · 10-03-2009, 02:29 PM

Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason)

That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree.

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason)

That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree.

I understand this sir. And thats my point why does it works for clips with no preview just a few pics? They have what they cost right there and the runtime. I think surfer thinks that 1 min flv preview is what you have on the members area the dumb ones anyways. I think you would like more dumb people with money to signup? If not the price why not the runtime or the amount of content for each scene? Also where is micropayments?

MetaMan · 10-03-2009, 03:38 PM

MetaMan · 10-03-2009, 03:41 PM

tony you are cracking me up brotha! keep it up! LOLZ

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

tony you are cracking me up brotha! keep it up! LOLZ

um ok...

Nautilus · 10-03-2009, 04:08 PM

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http://www.backdoorlesbians.com/join.php?
http://www.kissmatures.com/join.php?
http://www.straponsissies.com/join.php?

Reviews are designed to sell of course, but they're still quite honest.

MetaMan · 10-03-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

um ok...

MetaMan · 10-03-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

When will you make it easy to buy your porn tube clips get boring so we upgrade to pornhub premium and im still not satisfied

tony you are a premium donkey.

hats off to you.

LOLZ

pornpf69 · 10-03-2009, 09:18 PM

because they might change the prices whenever they want to...

tonyparra · 10-03-2009, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

tony you are a premium donkey.

hats off to you.

LOLZ

to you...you are web 2.0 after all right?

Agent 488 · 10-03-2009, 09:56 PM

why does the food look different on the label than inside thew package/can?

use your brain.

xenigo · 10-03-2009, 10:33 PM

Your best information can be gleaned from surfers, not from webmasters. You must listen to your customers. He has some interesting points.

tonyparra · 10-04-2009, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

Your best information can be gleaned from surfers, not from webmasters. You must listen to your customers. He has some interesting points.

thanks voice of reason

psbfo · 10-04-2009, 06:16 AM

There's also regional billing and different rates of foreign currency exchange.

Pleasurepays · 10-04-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

I understand this sir. And thats my point why does it works for clips with no preview just a few pics? They have what they cost right there and the runtime. I think surfer thinks that 1 min flv preview is what you have on the members area the dumb ones anyways. I think you would like more dumb people with money to signup? If not the price why not the runtime or the amount of content for each scene? Also where is micropayments?

so you get what he's saying as the typical adult webmaster right?

basically... the supermarket doesn't sell price... it sells food. so the average shopper doesn't care about what anything costs in the supermarket... they'll just throw it in the cart and wait until they get to the cashier to see what it costs. and they'll never feel deceived or disappointed... because... uhm... yeah... that's how you build solid relationships with customers.

gideongallery · 10-04-2009, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus

We fully disclose basic site facts (# of video sets, # of photo sets etc) on the join pages, and even link to full reviews for those who want to learn more before joining:

http://www.backdoorlesbians.com/join.php?
http://www.kissmatures.com/join.php?
http://www.straponsissies.com/join.php?

Reviews are designed to sell of course, but they're still quite honest.

that terrible you don't even know the price of the membership until you hit the cart.

that even worse then the price is only on the join page that this guy is complaining about.

SmokeyTheBear · 10-04-2009, 10:14 AM

Well most sponsors offer various payment methods for its affiliates to promote the sites now so you cant really advertise a set price on the frontpage

SmokeyTheBear · 10-04-2009, 10:17 AM

spacash has its $9 sites that CLEARLY advertise the price

http://www.9buckasiangirls.com/?account=gfygfy&rev=yes

MaDalton · 10-04-2009, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by psbfo

There's also regional billing and different rates of foreign currency exchange.

here's one reason why i don't do it - cause it causes confusion when you advertise $20 and then the price is 20 euro.

Joshua G · 10-04-2009, 01:10 PM

the name of the game is getting the surfer to the join page. if you spill the price before the join page, they may not ever get to the join page.

the other reason is the price is too high at most paysites.

Nautilus · 10-04-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

that terrible you don't even know the price of the membership until you hit the cart.

that even worse then the price is only on the join page that this guy is complaining about.

Send your complain to VISA then - I personally do not have problems stating the price at the join page, but VISA only allows that at the billing company's join form. Have no idea why they want it that way, they just passed this rule on to the billing companies maybe like 7 years ago, previously stating the price was allowed and we always had it written on the join buttons.

dyna mo · 10-04-2009, 01:56 PM

this is entirely wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett

Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason)

That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree.

TheLegacy · 10-04-2009, 02:20 PM

In short you don't want to get into a price war with other sites - your content should sell itself. Start thinking money up front and many will walk away - start thinking, "damn I so want to jerk off to that girl".. then they will pay anything to do so.

dyna mo · 10-04-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheLegacy

In short you don't want to get into a price war with other sites - your content should sell itself. Start thinking money up front and many will walk away - start thinking, "damn I so want to jerk off to that girl".. then they will pay anything to do so.

useability guru jakob nielson completely disagrees with this conclusion

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sites can lose customers if the ballpark price is not known early enough in the process, when your potential customer is evaluating your product.

-Jakob Nielson

shimmy2 · 10-04-2009, 04:59 PM

porn like most products really has no set price other than what people are willing to pay for it. its dependent on the demand for it and what people emotionally think the value of it is. sure it costs to shoot it, host it, and get the surfer to the page, but once the final product is finished what is the actual cost of creation.... it varies depending on the talent, equipment, 300 dollar signup super duper promo bonus days etc

BV · 10-04-2009, 06:18 PM

about the only difference one way or the other will be your join form ratio

same amount of sales

digitaldivas · 10-04-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

tony you are a premium donkey.

hats off to you.

LOLZ

...I actually agree, MetaMan, what the fuck is wrong with you tony?!? ...really?

digitaldivas · 10-04-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo

this is entirely wrong.

...actually totally agree with this point as well

10-03-2009, 12:30 PM	#1
tonyparra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: In your back seat with duck tape Posts: 4,568	Why not tell surfer the price upfront? How come on any of the join now text on paysites do they say "join now for $1.00" etc except on join page? Why dont you put the amount of content available for a shoot etc? Like it shows trailer or sample pics but also say there is 400 pics with this update and the runtime is 30:00 minutes? I think that many surfers are stupid and believe that what they see is what you got. They dont read the shit on the join page they just see signup form and back out because they are suprised you are asking for money and the amount if you tell them up front price and what the content you have is they may buy more. At least that works on clip sites which have hardly any kind of preview at all. __________________ High Performance Vps $10 Linode Manage your Digital Ocean, Linode, or Favorite Cloud Server. Simple, fast, and secure Server Pilot

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EthnicLover Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: S. California Posts: 1,584	I don't understand your question. Do you want to know why tours do not put the exact monthly membership amount on the tour? Some do but most don't. However the price is displayed on the sign-up page. __________________ Honest adult reviews? - Adult Reviews Ethnic paysite owners? - Get reviewed Follow me? - Twitter Porn

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Pleasurepays BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I live in a pile of boogers Posts: 11,913	this is an industry built on deceit. as an industry, we would like to ask you to please leave. you clearly have no place here. thank you

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10-03-2009, 02:29 PM	#13
crockett in a van by the river Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 76,806	Last time I checked we were selling Ass, not the price of tea in china. The reason we don't sell price, is because it's irrelevant to a surfer whom has a hard-on for the girl.. (with-in reason) That's the reason the $10 porn stuff never did well. Porn is a impulse buy not a coupon shopping spree. __________________ In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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10-03-2009, 03:41 PM	#16
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	tony you are cracking me up brotha! keep it up! LOLZ

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10-03-2009, 09:56 PM	#23
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	why does the food look different on the label than inside thew package/can? use your brain.

10-03-2009, 10:33 PM	#24
xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	Your best information can be gleaned from surfers, not from webmasters. You must listen to your customers. He has some interesting points.

10-04-2009, 06:16 AM	#26
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10-04-2009, 10:17 AM	#30
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	spacash has its $9 sites that CLEARLY advertise the price http://www.9buckasiangirls.com/?account=gfygfy&rev=yes __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

10-04-2009, 01:10 PM	#32
Joshua G dumb libs love censorship Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8,198	the name of the game is getting the surfer to the join page. if you spill the price before the join page, they may not ever get to the join page. the other reason is the price is too high at most paysites.

10-04-2009, 02:20 PM	#35
TheLegacy SEO Connoisseur Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Brantford, Ontario Posts: 17,111	In short you don't want to get into a price war with other sites - your content should sell itself. Start thinking money up front and many will walk away - start thinking, "damn I so want to jerk off to that girl".. then they will pay anything to do so. __________________ SEO Connoisseur Microsoft Teams: Robert Warren SEO Telegram: @TheLegacy54 RobertWarrenSEO.com

10-04-2009, 04:59 PM	#37
shimmy2 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Dominican Republic Posts: 3,252	porn like most products really has no set price other than what people are willing to pay for it. its dependent on the demand for it and what people emotionally think the value of it is. sure it costs to shoot it, host it, and get the surfer to the page, but once the final product is finished what is the actual cost of creation.... it varies depending on the talent, equipment, 300 dollar signup super duper promo bonus days etc __________________ Make $$$ with Toticos.com! \| Email: 1bluemiata@gmail \| Joutube: ShimmyCash \| Faceberg: ShimmyCash

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