I'm loving this thread.... down with da pirates ARRRRRRR!!!!

sounds pretty dead on to me there. :2 cents:

His comparison is off.

If Tube8 offered anyone here a nice big paid advertising deal, would they turn it down? Considering most people here make next to nothing what do you think the answer to that question would be (99% would take it).

Most people here don't like Tube8 because what they are doing " is wrong". They disagree with it. But most of them aren't the ones being ripped off by Tube8 as most of the people here don't produce content or own membership sites and it isn't THEIR content that is being blasted all over Tube 8 for free.

Most of the people here also don't several clients that they make millions off of, and these same clients are also being ripped off by Tube8.

Still sound dead on ?

Playboy Inc accepted money to skin GFY from a company that profits off of playboy's own content. Playboy Inc accepted money to promote a company that steals from several of Playboy Inc's own customers. Customers who have spent millions of dollars with them over the years. The payment accepted from Traffic Junky is likely about 2% of what GFY makes a year.

Would any Joe Blow here who thinks content theft is bad accept the payment, hell yeah they would. They don't make much money if any and that payment might be more than they make in a year. The tube site is not stealing from them, and they wouldn't be pissing on their other customers who the tube site is stealing from. Are these people hypocritical, sure, but that doesn't make what Playboy Inc did ok.

Playboy Inc can not be compared to Joe Blow poster here.

Should a business be faulted for wanting to make money? hell no. But that business should think their actions through from a financial standpoint if nothing else. If the business has no business ethics and doesn't practice good business then that is their choice but they should think their actions though a little better. It's one thing to promote and do business with a company that is stealing from you, but when you promote the company that is also stealing from your customers then that is just bad business. All of that just for about 2% of your anual income. It only takes losing 1 or 2 of your LOYAL customers, who get pissed by your greedy actions to COST your more than you made off of the skin.

So does it make sense to me that they did, hell no, but I am not greedy and try to look at the big picture and I practice good business. I wouldn't piss on my LOYAL customers who represent 98% of my income.

Does it make a little better sense now ?

You should continue to focus on the actual problem rather than gfy putting a skin up. That COST the tube sites and traffic junky money to do. More money out of their pocket good. Too many people getting sidetracked and pointing the focus at "hurting gfy" which is just logically retarded. Focus on the ACTUAL problem which is content theft, and the saturation done by programs as well with giving out 40% of their members areas for affiliates to use to "promote" them. Thats what started all this shit. People trying to give away more and more free of ... the product we sell (brilliant).. hoping to get more sales... :uhoh its one of the most retarded business models in history imo. Then on top of it. Lets host all the content for the affiliate too that gets 50% or a huge pps... :uhoh ok Im done back to work...

Sure... but I was just replying to a post about " a company shouldn't be faulted for trying to make money and everyone here would take the money if they had the opportunity to". If people have that attitude, which is wrong, good luck on getting them to understand and agree with any of what you said above.

also good luck with the core problem and trying to fix it, pointing out if people are bandwagon jumpers or not, or getting off track and worrying about gfy, whoever was fighting this a couple years ago, protecting you own content, etc etc etc.... No one here is going to fix tube sites, this isn't 2257 where it is the gov vs all of porn or acacia vs all of porn, this is porn vs porn. Too many people are already on the side with tube sites, big porn companies own tube sites, or people are doing business with tube sites. There will be no resolution, no amount of posts is going to change anything.

People like Steve Lightspeed or 3x tom can't fix tube sites, but what they can do is choose to stop doing business with other companies who are working with tube sites that is stealing their content. Does that fix their problem, hell no, but every now and then it makes helpless people feel a little better to take a stand even if it is a small one or a moral victory. It's one thing to lose money to tube sites when there is really nothing you can do about it but its another thing, actually a spit in the face when you spend 15 - 20K a year with a company who decides to do business with the company fucking you.

Can't wait to see where that money was spent fighting theft.

Interesting thread indeed, Not what I expected that's for sure. Be interesting to see where this goes from here.

GFY is not a neutral playground anymore, and a bad place for a discussion about tube sites. GFY is now an extension tool for those tubes, and supports fully the theft by accepting their money.

I will drop no valuable information AT GFY anymore. Cause this is a troll board not a discussion board. Oohh Eric, please take a shovel and stick that in your ass, you might get the same feeling we small webmasters have when we see and read your transparent comment. You only reacted here cause you thought you we`re obligated to tell something. But the message was already made, its all for the money, dom ta domperdiedom

What kind of theory is that so tomorrow you put up a company that supports kiddy porn so you would say the same thing? I think not, regardless of the money it's the support that you lose.

Btw the posters are who make this board and no donation is needed we donate our time in her and that's worth more then money.

Nothing against Eric or Ice which is understandable it's not their choice who goes up as an advertiser they are just doing their job. But it wasn't the greatest move by the company just my :2 cents:

its 2 Fitty, Belive it or Not :Graucho

hey i noticed the thread i made in the 'content theft and you' forum is deleted.. cant handle a little criticism? :1orglaugh

You guys should have used some of those 25k to come up with a better spin...

Hard times eh?

GFY favours free speech only when it suits the powers that be. :)

does this thread never end?

No, I don't want it to end.

Is this still going on? people give it a rest...

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

What's interesting about this whole drama ordeal...
the $25K it cost to skin this place....if Traffic Junky spent that kind of money, they had to have seen a return...or at least expected a return...

So, all everyone had to do was ignore Traffic Junky and not buy ad spots and they've just wasted $25K...oddly enough, I believe they've probably made that back or will make that back by a lot of the people that are bitching...who will now go ahead a buy a couple spots...but would never, of course, admit it publicly...

Yea it would have been better if people had simply ignored them, but that's too much deep thinking. Still, I dunno why anyone would want to touch JunkyTraffic.