This thread has more views than the bitch threads combined.

People love a train wreck.

Glad we can move forward on this now

That sounds like you're pumping the breaks and doing some damage control to me :2 cents:

Sorry, but this is one stupidest excuse I ever heard.

probably the best post in this thread :thumbsup

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Good to see that you've been defending him throughout this whole ordeal while he was under attack from all sides by people that thought he WAS among the decision makers. Oh wait, this post is from TODAY, nevermind. You're lucky Ice is still working for you instead of quitting after his employer left him in the snake pit. Seems as if all GFY's class are belong to Ice.

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i haven't been around this industry very long but i always thought this board was interesting. there is some drama now and then but some good info can be found by some of the people some of the time. GFY showed their greedy little ass over the last week and i hope it will take it's toll by hitting them where it hurts the most...their wallet!

it was bad enough when we thought you just did it for the money, now you insult us with this fucking ridiculous sticky!

i'm going to practice what i preach by not supporting anything that is illegal, especially when it impacts me directly by taking money away from me or my friends.

this is my last post and i want to end with this...

GO FUCK YOUSELF!!!!

i just pissed myself

GFY is divided on this issue. At first glance, it may seem as though the GFY community is against tubes, but that is not entirely true. Only those who are against tubes speak out on the subject. Proponents of tubes simply keep quiet and buy spots. I noticed lots of big sponsors kept quiet on this issue. It is obvious, they are either advocates of tubes or are buying traffic from them.

dude im anti that skin, but if you think someone should quit because message board people are pissy then man you take this waaaaay to seriously. yeah it sucked balls and it does suck ass that what happened happened... but its a msg board for fuck sakes!

It has nothing to do with message board people being pissy and everything to do with being everyone's beat-stick for a week because his employer decided to make a horrible decision without any explanation and hide for a week, basically forcing his name into most conversations about a tube skin on GFY because he was the only GFY admin/mod public throughout it. They didn't support him in any way while that skin was up despite him being constantly bombarded with people questioning HIS integrity, especially with all the bannings he had to do. Some people that fled to other boards over this may not see this sticky and may still think Ice is the asshole at GFY, all because Eric couldn't take a few minutes to make a post...hell, even 2 seconds to simply say "this was my call, Ice was not the decision maker" or something along those lines. God forbid Ice should ever want to do business on his own someday, do you think he should be in any way tied to a tube skin at an adult webmaster forum or banning legends who disagreed with it? Obviously he couldn't post an explanation of their decision himself because he would have no way of explaining Eric/Playboy's mindset behind that decision (and if the original post is actually true, even if he would have GUESSED, he'd have been wrong for sure). Ice has surely taken flack from people before, but this was a week he should not have had to endure. He pressed on and did anyways so good for him.

Heck, one of the major things that helped pry me from the company I had worked for for 4 years was that I was constantly on the front lines fighting to retain clients and ensure we were giving them good prompt service and I rarely got any support from management or even acknowledgement of my efforts. After the fact is nice and all but isn't good enough. If you were a manager of a Walmart and for a week you had to put up advertisements throughout the store for Martinez the illegal drug dealer down the street with no explanation as to why the decision was made and you are the one left to get bitched at by all the customers, would YOU continue working for Walmart after that?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you aint the sharpest tool in the shed i see

Do you know what a bounce rate is? Try reading that stat.

Fucking unbelievable.

Its the Members which make a forum great or not, it has nothing to do with the forum/site itself. If all Members walked away you would have nothing. As far as Im concerned it is GFY whom is lucky to have such great, helpful Members, not the other way around... we can talk the same shit do the same biz anywhere but we chose GFY and for that they should feel honored to have us.

The way we were treated shows no respect for us, the Memebers, which have/has made GFY what it is today.

Is it just me or am I seeing things...

Skin was for TrafficJunky correct? I don't see a single tube site on Traffic Junky. I see that they are a broker for tube traffic, but I don't see a skin on that domain.

So, if we are to look at the logic that is being stated here in this thread. GFY takes a skin from a company that works with tubes. Now I looked on another board and I see certain banned personalities who work and shoot very good content for Twisty's tearing GFY apart for their decision. If they shoot for Twisty's and Twisty's works with Tubes, isn't this the same thing?

Additionally, I see MikeSouth started a new board. I go to his TGP and he is promoting Brazzers in his galleries. Well Brazzers has been shown to be the owners of TrafficJunky. So they work directly with the tubes.

All things that make me say hmmm....

Their skin on GFY specifically had 3 tubes in it, prominently placed throughout the skin. Even if they themselves aren't a tube site, if you don't understand the issue there, then not sure I can help you. If it was simply TrafficJunky without use of the tube images, I doubt 90% of the people that were upset would have still been upset.

That's aside from the fact that it's a traffic broker selling traffic that's been gotten pretty much entirely from theft advertising on a board with most of the thief's victims.

brazzers owns tube8/pornhub/keezmovies
brazzers owns trafficjunky

So in the skin a traffic broker decided to add in their largest clients. Ok I get that, but there was never a link to those sites, just an image BFD.

Please tell me where GFY taking money from Brazzers/Traffic Junky is any different than the above mentioned individuals, who have been very negatively vocal about this skin and GFY, taking money from Twisty's or Brazzers? In the end these are business decisions and every person in the industry makes them.

This is Show Business not Show Friends, right?

Slow down there chief.

You are going too fast for 99% of GFY masses to apparently follow the logic.

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Pretty lame attempt to clear up a really bad mistake in judgement. I would have passed on the skin and made notice that action ... THEN you would have people's respect ... not a week after the fact.

Whoever thought up that cover story really needs to lay off the dope.

kudos to that

yep that is what they want you to believe. :winkwink:

Oops, forgot to say that in my last reply. Duh.

NO TIME TO CATCHUP!! People have a bandwagon to try to jump on... who has time for logic and rational thought?

To all the people bitching. Exactly WHAT have you done to try and help stop content theft? When did you pick up the torch? Im just curious cause I have been beating the drum for a long time now and got laughed at by a WHOLE lot of you that are now crying about the skin, and suddenly all up in arms about the "tubes". What have you done? What threads have you started in the past to discuss it. Have you tried to organize anything to help stop it?

I mean if you are going to step... step up. Im so surprised so many of you are suddenly indignant and ready to set cars on fire and break windows out of buildings as you riot about the tubes so suddenly. So PLEASE PLEASE tell us all what you have tried to do to stop the problem. I see most of the ones that ACTUALLY give a shit about content theft are still here posting and didn't really form any "gfy protests". The ones that have stood in the past and tried to come up with ideas, and get the word out weren't mad at gfy about the skin (for the most part with a few exceptions).

So what have you done? What thread have you previously started about it? What threads have you posted in in the past showing your support to stop content theft and tubes? Do tell.. Thinly veiled thinly veiled..

That is a handsome man.. mmmm handsome....:1orglaugh

Dropping like a stone... [sarcasm] Ill be waiting with baited breath to hear all the replies on what the people suddenly complaining about content theft and tubes have done in the past, threads they made, efforts they have put forth etc.. [/sarcasm]

You know, I have known Eric for years...he has always been honest, a straight shooter, helpful, and yeah, a steadfast person in our Industry.

He has never, ever had any issues of any sort of ethics issues, never once been caught in a bad scheme or lie with me.

So I am going to sig spot here in full support of Eric... Eric...Im sure you are doing the right things...your behavior has never been anything different.

Bookmarked for later reading...

LMAO... :1orglaugh you got to be kidding me.

So how much money was collected from the skin and where is the proof it was spent for the greater good? And how was it spent for that matter? Why was this not disclosed before hand, oh man, so many questions.... I will take the "Not" for believe it or not... poor attempt at bullshit. You guys should hire me or someone else to do spin controll.... This reply sounds like it was written by LARS or AFF's idiot attornies trying to explain "adware collisions". :1orglaugh

This response i think is insulting. It means you really believe people here are idiots, because for you to post this you must have expected some people to believe it. You would have done better just not replying at all. :2 cents:

sig i couldnt think of anything else to say.

actually, the assholes get it both ways. I've seen a lot of people on here lie cheat and steal, get caught red handed and then say "opps me sooo sorry" and everyone say " WOW topnotch, that is real big of you" blah blah fucking bullshit.

So you can't lose either way. The moron sheep believe BS like the orginal post in here (denying everything) and they will say " ah so that was it".... either way, people always get excused in this industry or at least on this site. But then you take the good people who do good business, never cheat anyone and the trolls here try to rip them apart.

Its funny this was all a "trick" to get the bad guys money and use it against them. blah blah.... till the next site like traffic junky comes along and the site is skinned again LOL/

most of you guys are fucking noobs LOLZ

its hardly about the alexa ranking but more about the paying sponsors who decided to stop advertising here. Just 1 sponsor pulls his ad dollars from this site, they lose more that over the next year and half (just from 1 person) than they made from the skin. If they lost, 2,3,4,5 advertisers... do the math.

Do you think GFY really cares that much about a few posters leaving? 20 people leaving isn't going to move alexa which is probably mostly surfer traffic anyways.


To all the people saying " good move with the unbanning" are you really serious? The people who got banned decided they didn't want to post on this site anymore. To prove to everyone they felt this way they got banned, on purpose. They wanted to be banned. How is the "unbanning" such a good move when those people don't want to come back anyway. It just makes GFY try to look better when it is really irrelevant.

think people, and if you can't think ask someone who can.

you do realize you have made 114,248 use less posts on this site right? :winkwink:

In your bubble probably.