TheStatistician - anybody give a shit? - GoFuckYourself.com

gornyhuy · 12-10-2002, 11:31 AM

Do you guys pay any attention to www.thestatistician.com when choosing sponsor programs??? Seems like if these guys were even close to accurate or comprehensive that there are only a few programs even worth looking at. The top proggies on their lists are always 5-10 X better than all others in $/click and conversion ratios.

What gives? Is it accurate?
If so, everyone would be promoting pornkings and primecash and basically nothing else.

TheFLY · 12-10-2002, 11:32 AM

It look spretty fixed to me.

The most notorious shavers are near the top.

Vendot · 12-10-2002, 11:34 AM

> Do you guys pay any attention to www.thestatistician.com
> when choosing sponsor programs???

The stats are extremely useful, especially when looking at what kind of hits a sponsor shows and what kind of conversions you can do. I rate TheStatistician...

JustJen · 12-10-2002, 11:34 AM

We do NOT shave. And yes, you should all be promoting us

multisexsite · 12-10-2002, 11:34 AM

Anyone could have thestatistician test them and add sales to the account.

BradShaw · 12-10-2002, 11:36 AM

Now that you have to pay to be tested, I do not put much into the results of it.

gornyhuy · 12-10-2002, 11:37 AM

Really!? That fucking sucks. Thanks for the info.

They make themselves out to be an authority on who converts... a "trusted third party" watchdog.

What are the notorious shavers?
What are the best non-shavers?

How many hundreds of threads have already addressed this?

alias · 12-10-2002, 11:37 AM

those sites pay to be "tested" and they are aware of the affiliate id that is used by the statestician

JustJen · 12-10-2002, 11:39 AM

Oh please.... try us out and you will see for yourself. Our conversions kick ass, not to mention the fact that we are all so damn nice

nocostporn · 12-10-2002, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alias
those sites pay to be "tested" and they are aware of the affiliate id that is used by the statestician

lol exactly... Shave- "Nope"

hyper · 12-10-2002, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornkingsJen
We do NOT shave. And yes, you should all be promoting us

so you use nair?

TheFLY · 12-10-2002, 11:41 AM

It sux... <img src="http://www.socalsweets.com/down.gif">

To see what converts, just surf the top freesites...

JustJen · 12-10-2002, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

so you use nair?

Nope... wax

Zentropy · 12-10-2002, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PornkingsJen

Nope... wax

Somebody shaved the "r" out of the title of your home page Miss Ponking

gornyhuy · 12-10-2002, 11:49 AM

I didn't mean for this to turn into a free spam session for Pornkings.

Just wanted to know what fucking converts, who shaves, and why the statistician is a big lie.

The fundamental questions of life.

Pipecrew · 12-10-2002, 11:49 AM

Yeah i have to agree with Brad, Once money becomes invovled, ethics are gone and the results dont mean shit

JustJen · 12-10-2002, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy
I didn't mean for this to turn into a free spam session for Pornkings.

Just wanted to know what fucking converts, who shaves, and why the statistician is a big lie.

The fundamental questions of life.

Me? Spam? No way....

Rory · 12-10-2002, 11:55 AM

Jesus how did i know after reading that first post that there would be multiple replies from pornkings?

ElvisManson · 12-10-2002, 12:01 PM

being one of the people that Pays for TRAFFIC from the statistician I can tell you that on our end the ranking is fair. We pre-pay them for the traffic that they send to our sites.

Most deals I cut with WM's are for $35 per join but because our normal join rate is $30 they will only accept $30 per join in the testing.

I know for sure that Meatman and Aga run it a cleanly as is possible. I certainly can't comment on added joins to improve rankings.

EscortBiz · 12-10-2002, 12:03 PM

yes i do convert 1:160

J.R. · 12-10-2002, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BradShaw
Now that you have to pay to be tested, I do not put much into the results of it.

I agree..

Steve · 12-10-2002, 12:43 PM

Well, I read about it on the internet, so it must be true!

Hey Pete, that was a cool smiley

[The Leader] · 12-10-2002, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy

What are the notorious shavers?

ARS
CEN
dollar4all now
many others

Quote:

Originally posted by gornyhuy

What are the best non-shavers?

UncleJimmy · 12-10-2002, 01:05 PM

yeh I give a shit about verified #s foo shoo

but the ones I want right now I can't find on that page, who the hell has the longest retaining members!? cuz I wanna gank their fucking layout/interior

j/k....kindaaa

gornyhuy · 12-10-2002, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [The Leader]

ARS
CEN
dollar4all now
many others

Thanks for the heads up...

krox · 12-10-2002, 05:48 PM

In the past, I have used sponsors near the top of the Statistician list.

But thinking about it, if the sponsor knows the Statistician's affiliate code, he would never shave them, and may throw a few extra sign ups their way. So it is pretty meaningless.

Plus if the text link is 'free movies click here' or 'sponsor site $39.95 per month' makes a dramatic difference to the conversion ratio. So it can be easily manipulated.

What is maybe more interesting is to see which niches convert the best. Even if individual sponsor ratios are fiddled, when aggregated out, the niche statistics may be more meaningful.

pentae · 12-10-2002, 05:57 PM

TheStatistician is a bit of a joke.. but the idea is good..

I personally think the smarter webmasters would hunt down less known programs like juicybucks.com to find unsaturated conversions..

p1mpdogg · 12-10-2002, 06:07 PM

A thread like this is not complete without an epiccash spam

see sig.

Muff · 12-10-2002, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg
A thread like this is not complete without an epiccash spam

see sig.

What kind of lame ass spam was that???

Tell us about the 1:100 ratios....

p1mpdogg · 12-10-2002, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Muff

What kind of lame ass spam was that???

Tell us about the 1:100 ratios....

ultrampegs 1:80
girlfucksguy 1:70
amateurhoneypot 1:130
the rest avg 1:300

that is taken from non tgp crap traffic.. and from my top 5 affiliates averaged together.

Muff · 12-10-2002, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p1mpdogg

ultrampegs 1:80
girlfucksguy 1:70
amateurhoneypot 1:130
the rest avg 1:300

that is taken from non tgp crap traffic.. and from my top 5 affiliates averaged together.

Top 5 affiliates by conversions or qauntity of sales?

p1mpdogg · 12-10-2002, 06:35 PM

conversion.

FlyingIguana · 12-10-2002, 06:39 PM

pimpdogg you offer any free movie content for webmasters?

Lensman · 12-10-2002, 06:52 PM

Partnershipcash from Adult.com = The #1 converting partner program on the list.

Get on it!

p1mpdogg · 12-10-2002, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
pimpdogg you offer any free movie content for webmasters?

I have a little bit for girlfucksguy.. but obviously the content is hard to find.. and some isnt the best quality... Im sure i can drum up some for ulrampegs

Apollo · 12-10-2002, 07:38 PM

Personally I don't think one can trust "third party ranking" if the person being ranked knows exactly what account is being used.

I mean say I was a sponsor getting ranked....I know account X is what Statiscian is using to do the ranking...I watch the stats closely...perhaps inflate the number of signups a bit to better my ratio =) What's an extra $500 payout or so to get bumped up to the top 10 in converting....especially if it draws in webmasters like free food.

I'm not saying that this happens, my question is what is there to prevent it from happening?

rayzor · 12-11-2002, 08:11 AM

So true.. Even when money is not involved directly, dirty results can happen. Look what happened to dmoz.

Why anyone still cares about conversion ratios by sponsers or third parties is beyond me. There is only one accurate conversion ratio and that is from YOURSELF. There are so many factors that can affect the ratio like your traffic, your promotion style, ect. Finding what someone else's ratio is means jack! The only true way to compare conversions between 2 sponsers is total sales/outclicks.

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
Yeah i have to agree with Brad, Once money becomes invovled, ethics are gone and the results dont mean shit

12-10-2002, 11:34 AM	#3
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12-10-2002, 11:31 AM	#1
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	TheStatistician - anybody give a shit? Do you guys pay any attention to www.thestatistician.com when choosing sponsor programs??? Seems like if these guys were even close to accurate or comprehensive that there are only a few programs even worth looking at. The top proggies on their lists are always 5-10 X better than all others in $/click and conversion ratios. What gives? Is it accurate? If so, everyone would be promoting pornkings and primecash and basically nothing else. __________________ icq:159548293

12-10-2002, 11:32 AM	#2
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	It look spretty fixed to me. The most notorious shavers are near the top.

12-10-2002, 11:34 AM	#5
multisexsite Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 929	Anyone could have thestatistician test them and add sales to the account.

12-10-2002, 11:37 AM	#8
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	those sites pay to be "tested" and they are aware of the affiliate id that is used by the statestician

12-10-2002, 11:41 AM	#12
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	It sux... <img src="http://www.socalsweets.com/down.gif"> To see what converts, just surf the top freesites...

12-10-2002, 11:49 AM	#15
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	I didn't mean for this to turn into a free spam session for Pornkings. Just wanted to know what fucking converts, who shaves, and why the statistician is a big lie. The fundamental questions of life. __________________ icq:159548293

12-10-2002, 11:49 AM	#16
Pipecrew Master of Gfy.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,887	Yeah i have to agree with Brad, Once money becomes invovled, ethics are gone and the results dont mean shit

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12-10-2002, 12:01 PM	#19
ElvisManson Looking California Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 5,476	being one of the people that Pays for TRAFFIC from the statistician I can tell you that on our end the ranking is fair. We pre-pay them for the traffic that they send to our sites. Most deals I cut with WM's are for $35 per join but because our normal join rate is $30 they will only accept $30 per join in the testing. I know for sure that Meatman and Aga run it a cleanly as is possible. I certainly can't comment on added joins to improve rankings.

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12-10-2002, 05:48 PM	#26
krox Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 253	In the past, I have used sponsors near the top of the Statistician list. But thinking about it, if the sponsor knows the Statistician's affiliate code, he would never shave them, and may throw a few extra sign ups their way. So it is pretty meaningless. Plus if the text link is 'free movies click here' or 'sponsor site $39.95 per month' makes a dramatic difference to the conversion ratio. So it can be easily manipulated. What is maybe more interesting is to see which niches convert the best. Even if individual sponsor ratios are fiddled, when aggregated out, the niche statistics may be more meaningful.

12-10-2002, 05:57 PM	#27
pentae Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Inconceivable! Posts: 899	TheStatistician is a bit of a joke.. but the idea is good.. I personally think the smarter webmasters would hunt down less known programs like juicybucks.com to find unsaturated conversions..

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12-10-2002, 06:52 PM	#34
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12-10-2002, 07:38 PM	#36
Apollo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 433	Personally I don't think one can trust "third party ranking" if the person being ranked knows exactly what account is being used. I mean say I was a sponsor getting ranked....I know account X is what Statiscian is using to do the ranking...I watch the stats closely...perhaps inflate the number of signups a bit to better my ratio =) What's an extra $500 payout or so to get bumped up to the top 10 in converting....especially if it draws in webmasters like free food. I'm not saying that this happens, my question is what is there to prevent it from happening? __________________ ----------- Free automated way to rotate sponsor gallery thumbnails on your sites TgpWizards - Free TGP Gallery submission system