So many crybabies here. Any real businessman left? If so....
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Kinda funny coming from you.
Hey don't get me wrong I am a Lightspeed fan and Phoenix forum is the best show there is so I am NOT hating. But everyone knows you have your dick up your own ass.Comment
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I know I'm being a dick about it. You guys have been crying about the same fucking thing for the past 2 years. CRY CRY CRY how many of you have done anything about it? How come none of you complain when it's a Brazzers skin? Why is a traffic junky skin a problem?
While you guys have been crying and doing nothing these tubes are cranking millions in profits and meanwhile I imagine most of you are seeing your businesses dwindle away.Comment
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Yep exactly. I have the same problem with GFYers. So quick to bitch they can't make money so approach them with some tips or ideas and they go "lol j/k I own a small tgp I haven't updated since 2004 lol"
Or they are just idiots. No loss here dude.Comment
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The Reality is tubes changed this business forever. Did they make it easier? HELLLLL NO! Do I wish they went away? Sure. Do I wish tgps and free porn never came out? SURE. But it's here. It's not going anywhere.
As many of you know we run a number of tube sites. The tube business model is very sustainable. I don't agree with the way many other tube sites are run. However here we are two years later. They are still running and still seem to be doing well. Most of the sponsors here are working with the bigger tube sites in one way or another. I don't see why Eric should be attacked for this. If it's ok for gfy sponsors to work with the tube sites why can't gfy? If everybody had refused to work with them then that would be one thing. But that's not the case.
Disclaimer: I should mention I'm going to be with Eric all of the next week and this thread is straight up bros4bros 2009
(It's a joke it's ok to laugh)
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so shap, can i use your content to deliver new members to my site then? i know your going to say "no" but its 2009 and they have been doing it for 2 years, so why cant we just have a free for all with everyones content?
Why pay for a site when I can take your stuff and bill what I want for it?
I have always thought of you as someone who protects his brand / market but I now see that it is everyone for themselves.
make your today $, forget about tomorrows $ right?Comment
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To be honest I don't think short term. I look at the long term picture. I'm always thinking about tomorrow's $$$. That is why we've invested (and are investing) heavily in both our paysite division and our free site division.so shap, can i use your content to deliver new members to my site then? i know your going to say "no" but its 2009 and they have been doing it for 2 years, so why cant we just have a free for all with everyones content?
Why pay for a site when I can take your stuff and bill what I want for it?
I have always thought of you as someone who protects his brand / market but I now see that it is everyone for themselves.
make your today $, forget about tomorrows $ right?
We are doing what we can to protect our content. DMCA is what keeps these guys going. I'm sure they'd say they didn't make the rules they are just playing by them.
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ok, so based on that logic that you just said why do you fund (directly and indirectly) to pay their bills? I know if you stop someone else will and thats that the shitty part but when all the laws change (if they do) you will be able to have a steady flow of real traffic sources not the illegal ones..
Joins are still out there without tubes (points at his statsremote just to check lol) just who you choose to sleep with now means a whole lot more..Comment



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