is this democracy or just an illusion? - GoFuckYourself.com

opflix · 12-09-2002, 09:26 PM

i was discussing this with a few friends & i figure we've got some intelligent cats here who can think objectively & rationally.... i also haven't been around the board long so excuse me if this topic has been vsited.

do you really tihnk we have any control over our government? i was just reading the thread about canada... also watched Taken & just the fucking news.... its rather depressing that no matter what they issue is, not even when we bond together can we do anything to sway the government...

i hate to make this an example, but why is it the government keeping documents that we want to have access to? of course i'm referring to information regarding the us govt's knowledge of extra terrestrial life? what the fuck else are they hiding? shit... many will say, "well, if u dont like it... push off to some other country?" lol... how long will we be able to say that? the terrorist shit... bush... no 1 likes our ass & its not because of the citizens my friends.

i don't know... maybe its just me.... but overall shit seems pretty fucked up in the homeland right now, kids. what can be done to prevent the US from suffering the fate of Ancient Rome?

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theking · 12-09-2002, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by opflix
i was discussing this with a few friends & i figure we've got some intelligent cats here who can think objectively & rationally.... i also haven't been around the board long so excuse me if this topic has been vsited.

do you really tihnk we have any control over our government? i was just reading the thread about canada... also watched Taken & just the fucking news.... its rather depressing that no matter what they issue is, not even when we bond together can we do anything to sway the government...

i hate to make this an example, but why is it the government keeping documents that we want to have access to? of course i'm referring to information regarding the us govt's knowledge of extra terrestrial life? what the fuck else are they hiding? shit... many will say, "well, if u dont like it... push off to some other country?" lol... how long will we be able to say that? the terrorist shit... bush... no 1 likes our ass & its not because of the citizens my friends.

i don't know... maybe its just me.... but overall shit seems pretty fucked up in the homeland right now, kids. what can be done to prevent the US from suffering the fate of Ancient Rome?

....

The answer is obvious. Make you our leader.

opflix · 12-09-2002, 09:32 PM

what does obivious mean? lol

theking · 12-09-2002, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by opflix
what does obivious mean? lol

My fingers have a mind of their own.

pr0 · 12-09-2002, 09:54 PM

Rome & every other great civilization was destroyed by outsiders mixing into their population.

Shut down the borders, deport anyone who's not a citizen and we shall rule for a thousand years

Gutterboy · 12-09-2002, 09:54 PM

Its all.. like.. like.. fuckin.. an illusion.. man [takes another bong rip] like holy fuckin shit man.. [exhales] nothing is really.. you know.. fuckin real!

fuck, dude.

UnseenWorld · 12-09-2002, 10:17 PM

I don't know if it's an illusion or what, but...

Life is a game where, no matter what you do, no matter who is in power or out of power, no matter who lies or who tells the truth, no matter how much or how power any person is, they take back all the marbles at the end of the game.

DEATH, the great equalizer.

And to increase the irony, the Cosmos dies as well. There is no living forever for anybody.

TDF · 12-09-2002, 10:24 PM

we are definitely hornswaggled..

pine · 12-09-2002, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by opflix
what can be done to prevent the US from suffering the fate of Ancient Rome?
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Nothing, bro. But it won't happen in our lifetimes (at least this time around), so stop thinking about all the heavy shit and go get some flix of those fine Latin SoBe mamis.

bhutocracy · 12-09-2002, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by pr0
Rome & every other great civilization was destroyed by outsiders mixing into their population.

Shut down the borders, deport anyone who's not a citizen and we shall rule for a thousand years

actually Rome faced a lot more than just barbarians.. the spread of malaria is speculated to have killed countless thousands opening rome up to invasion. there are many other theories but none of them cite "outsiders" being the only cause. and it was never "enemies within" like the current situation as you intimate. Rome became great in the first place because of outsiders they conquered mixing with their population.

bhutocracy · 12-09-2002, 10:54 PM

the US will suffer the same fate as England eventually.. watch out for China.. they will surely surpass the US sometime this century... their economy has doubled every ten years...

volante · 12-09-2002, 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by theking

My fingers have a mind of their own.

Don't tell George Bush, he'll get jealous

Danny_C · 12-09-2002, 11:03 PM

Wait, what country do you mean?

The US is definitely not a true democracy, especially when you take into consideration the roles of the media and the political parties. You can't be democratic with two parties who agree on most issues supposedly representing the various positions of such a diverse population of people. You can't be democratic when you don't have the information you need to make educated decisions, which requires an unbiased media, which we don't have. It's pretty bad when you have to read other countries' newspapers to find out what's going on in your own country.

But, having said that, it's a little naive to say it's an "illusion". That's the attitude that causes apathy, and keeps people at home on voting day. We can make a difference. Even voting for a losing party can have an impact. The system is flawed, but it's not broken.

DTK · 12-09-2002, 11:03 PM

Do you own an oil company? If so, you have plenty of influence.

opflix · 12-09-2002, 11:16 PM

unfortunately danny... the shit is broken. how to fix it? beats the fuck outta me.... i mean, i'm high right now & the shit STILL SUCKS. now that's bad... thank god for marry-joo-wanna. ;-P

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theking · 12-10-2002, 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by volante

Don't tell George Bush, he'll get jealous

Huh?

theking · 12-10-2002, 02:45 AM

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Originally posted by Danny_C
Wait, what country do you mean?

The US is definitely not a true democracy, especially when you take into consideration the roles of the media and the political parties. You can't be democratic with two parties who agree on most issues supposedly representing the various positions of such a diverse population of people. You can't be democratic when you don't have the information you need to make educated decisions, which requires an unbiased media, which we don't have. It's pretty bad when you have to read other countries' newspapers to find out what's going on in your own country.

But, having said that, it's a little naive to say it's an "illusion". That's the attitude that causes apathy, and keeps people at home on voting day. We can make a difference. Even voting for a losing party can have an impact. The system is flawed, but it's not broken.

You are correct. We are not a democracy and were not intended to be a democracy. We are and always have been a Republic.

12-09-2002, 09:26 PM	#1
opflix Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: HELL Posts: 1,428	is this democracy or just an illusion? i was discussing this with a few friends & i figure we've got some intelligent cats here who can think objectively & rationally.... i also haven't been around the board long so excuse me if this topic has been vsited. do you really tihnk we have any control over our government? i was just reading the thread about canada... also watched <b>Taken</b> & just the fucking news.... its rather depressing that no matter what they issue is, not even when we bond together can we do anything to sway the government... i hate to make this an example, but why is it the government keeping documents that we want to have access to? of course i'm referring to information regarding the us govt's knowledge of extra terrestrial life? what the fuck else are they hiding? shit... many will say, "well, if u dont like it... push off to some other country?" lol... how long will we be able to say that? the terrorist shit... bush... no 1 likes our ass & its not because of the citizens my friends. i don't know... maybe its just me.... but overall shit seems pretty fucked up in the homeland right now, kids. what can be done to prevent the US from suffering the fate of Ancient Rome? .... __________________ Social Escrow - Buying & Selling Accounts? Contact Me \| Social Escrow IG

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pr0 rockin tha trailerpark Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: ~Coastal~ Posts: 23,088	Rome & every other great civilization was destroyed by outsiders mixing into their population. Shut down the borders, deport anyone who's not a citizen and we shall rule for a thousand years __________________ __________ Loadedca$h - get sum! - Revengebucks - mmm rebills! - webair (gotz sErVrz)

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UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	I don't know if it's an illusion or what, but... Life is a game where, no matter what you do, no matter who is in power or out of power, no matter who lies or who tells the truth, no matter how much or how power any person is, they take back all the marbles at the end of the game. DEATH, the great equalizer. And to increase the irony, the Cosmos dies as well. There is no living forever for anybody. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	Its all.. like.. like.. fuckin.. an illusion.. man [takes another bong rip] like holy fuckin shit man.. [exhales] nothing is really.. you know.. fuckin real! fuck, dude.

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bhutocracy Not making A Comeback Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 10,218	the US will suffer the same fate as England eventually.. watch out for China.. they will surely surpass the US sometime this century... their economy has doubled every ten years...

12-09-2002, 11:03 PM	#13
Danny_C Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,160	Wait, what country do you mean? The US is definitely not a true democracy, especially when you take into consideration the roles of the media and the political parties. You can't be democratic with two parties who agree on most issues supposedly representing the various positions of such a diverse population of people. You can't be democratic when you don't have the information you need to make educated decisions, which requires an unbiased media, which we don't have. It's pretty bad when you have to read other countries' newspapers to find out what's going on in your own country. But, having said that, it's a little naive to say it's an "illusion". That's the attitude that causes apathy, and keeps people at home on voting day. We can make a difference. Even voting for a losing party can have an impact. The system is flawed, but it's not broken.

12-09-2002, 11:03 PM	#14
DTK Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The 510 Posts: 4,545	Do you own an oil company? If so, you have plenty of influence.

12-09-2002, 11:16 PM	#15
opflix Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: HELL Posts: 1,428	unfortunately danny... the shit is broken. how to fix it? beats the fuck outta me.... i mean, i'm high right now & the shit STILL SUCKS. now that's bad... thank god for marry-joo-wanna. ;-P mod pine, i can't help but have these musings... i'm an aquarius! & believe me, i'm not bitchin & moanin about much right now! __________________ Social Escrow - Buying & Selling Accounts? Contact Me \| Social Escrow IG Last edited by opflix; 12-09-2002 at 11:18 PM..