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Stardust_ · 09-17-2009, 07:49 AM

Are there any good, or really good HD cameras for around 500$ that anyone could recommend?

Also, is it worth considering Flash DRM?

Stardust_ · 09-17-2009, 09:52 AM

No one???

danevans · 09-17-2009, 09:54 AM

I heared nothing but good comments about Canon HV30 (might be HV40 now, not sure), for its price range, should be around $800 though

baddog · 09-17-2009, 10:10 AM

Try a yard sale.

Riffhard · 09-17-2009, 10:17 AM

I got myself a Canon HV20 used for $500 and really love it. I added a wide-angle lens, a Rode Videomic, and a steadicam to it. I had a few really nice videos on youtube but the fascists decided to delete them.

fmltube · 09-17-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Riffhard

I got myself a Canon HV20 used for $500 and really love it. I added a wide-angle lens, a Rode Videomic, and a steadicam to it. I had a few really nice videos on youtube but the fascists decided to delete them.

though myself, I want to move more towards a tape less work flow.

digitaldivas · 09-17-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by danevans

I heared nothing but good comments about Canon HV30 (might be HV40 now, not sure), for its price range, should be around $800 though

The HV30 is a beautiful piece of machinery. Check ebay.

Stardust_ · 09-17-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Try a yard sale.

Thanks for the tip old timer. But nowadays we use that there internets for thems kinds of things.

stickyfingerz · 09-17-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube

though myself, I want to move more towards a tape less work flow.

Tapeless sounds nice, but Id rather have a tape backup for now.

Stardust_ · 09-17-2009, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Tapeless sounds nice, but Id rather have a tape backup for now.

Your opinion of Flash DRM? You recommended this to me when I inquired about it a while ago... Didn't decide to go with it back then, but I'm considering it now, for a new HD production

baddog · 09-17-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Stardust_

Thanks for the tip old timer. But nowadays we use that there internets for thems kinds of things.

Then try a virtual yard sale if you want one that cheap.

NaughtyRob · 09-17-2009, 12:28 PM

I have the Canon HV30 its awesome.

nation-x · 09-17-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by digitaldivas

The HV30 is a beautiful piece of machinery. Check ebay.

danevans · 09-17-2009, 03:09 PM

regarding the tapeless point, among the cheaper HD cameras (500-1000 new or used), hv30 tapes are the upside, because most of the tapeless cams use some internal codecs to compress the vid a bit and squeeze more footage on each memory card or drive.. hv30 keeps it as is, sorta raw.. at least thats what I've read on istock video forums.

SonOfaBeach · 09-17-2009, 04:07 PM

I picked up a Canon Vixia HF100 last Christmas for about $530 and I love it. Granted ours is just for personal use, but it shoots beautiful full HD (1080p). It's a flash based camera. The HF100 comes w/ no on-board storage and just uses SDHC cards. Other models in the Vixia line do have some on-board storage - but for the price difference it's not worth it. Besides, I couldn't see any real advantage to having on-board flash memory vs just going w/ SDHC cards.

I was able to pick up 3 16GB Transcend SDHC cards for < $30 each when I bought the cam. With SDCH cards so cheap these days, they're a pretty close match to tape as far as backup/storage is concerned - except they are a lot easier to work with and store.

I can get just over 2 hours of 1920x1080 w/ each 16GB card.

stickyfingerz · 09-17-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stardust_

Your opinion of Flash DRM? You recommended this to me when I inquired about it a while ago... Didn't decide to go with it back then, but I'm considering it now, for a new HD production

My opinion is don't call it drm

galleryseek · 09-17-2009, 05:15 PM

I bought a Canon Vixia HG20 recently. I used it in conjunction with a green screen to record the video on this page. (I know, it's ridiculous ;))

DonovanTrent · 09-17-2009, 05:24 PM

I'd stick with tape, if for no other reasons than the "instant backup" mentioned by stickyfingerz and the internal compression. I'd rather do my own compression however I want it, thank you.

And stay away from cameras with internal hard drives, I've heard all kinds of fun stories.

xenigo · 09-17-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach

I picked up a Canon Vixia HF100 last Christmas for about $530 and I love it. Granted ours is just for personal use, but it shoots beautiful full HD (1080p). It's a flash based camera. The HF100 comes w/ no on-board storage and just uses SDHC cards. Other models in the Vixia line do have some on-board storage - but for the price difference it's not worth it. Besides, I couldn't see any real advantage to having on-board flash memory vs just going w/ SDHC cards.

I was able to pick up 3 16GB Transcend SDHC cards for < $30 each when I bought the cam. With SDCH cards so cheap these days, they're a pretty close match to tape as far as backup/storage is concerned - except they are a lot easier to work with and store.

I can get just over 2 hours of 1920x1080 w/ each 16GB card.

I also have the HF100, and it certainly does produce stunning footage one one condition... you have to have a solid work-flow and know how to get the most out of the footage from Point A to Z. I have to admit I was a little intimidated by the process at first, but after about a solid month of testing, rendering, testing and more rendering... I finally figured out what works better than anyone's current workflow

But one thing... it doesn't do 1080p. It inserts progressive 30p footage into a 1080i stream, or does 1080i 60i. I have found that using the deinterlacing method "blend fields" to provide the best final product from the footage from this camera.

Mikaxxx · 09-17-2009, 05:38 PM

Canon Vixia HF200 is very good one, but a bit expensive than $500

xenigo · 09-17-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by galleryseek

I bought a Canon Vixia HG20 recently. I used it in conjunction with a green screen to record the video on this page. (I know, it's ridiculous ;))

Looks like you have some nice M-Audio studio monitors. But you've got a Westinghouse LCD? Interesting choice

xenigo · 09-17-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikaxxx

Canon Vixia HF200 is very good one, but a bit expensive than $500

Reviews say HF100 is better than HF200.

MadisonMadness · 09-17-2009, 05:53 PM

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-camc...rColumnArea1.1

xenigo · 09-17-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MadisonMadness

http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-camc...rColumnArea1.1

Those reviews contain close to zero information. Basically CNET consists purely of some $8/hour dipwad saying it's pretty and has nice buttons. What the fuck good does that do someone who buys a video camera for the quality of footage?

MadisonMadness · 09-17-2009, 06:59 PM

since i'm not a camera snob, what i like about cnet is not necessarily their reviews, but the user reviews, plus they list a ton of places to buy the item in question with the prices and shipping included for easy comparison...making it easy. JFC!

Riffhard · 09-17-2009, 07:55 PM

OOOHHH found one of my clips that hasn't been deleted:

Keep in mind that this was recorded using cheap work lights before I knew how to properly light a scene. IMO even the cheapest camcorder can produce good footage with good lighting. HV20...

DBS.US · 09-17-2009, 08:19 PM

Canon HV40 Rocks, Look on youtube for samples of the HV40 quality video

Major (Tom) · 09-17-2009, 10:48 PM

add a 0 if you want a good one.
Duke

Zorgman · 09-17-2009, 10:56 PM

Heard good things about the Sayno CG10 HD camera. It's 1280x720p. Its not Full HD, but still looks good. Check youtube for some reviews.

Its around $250 - $300 USD.

SonOfaBeach · 09-19-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xenigo

But one thing... it doesn't do 1080p. It inserts progressive 30p footage into a 1080i stream, or does 1080i 60i. I have found that using the deinterlacing method "blend fields" to provide the best final product from the footage from this camera.

Ahhh thanks for the correction. I was a little hesitant as I put that 'p' on there.

I'm far from a video geek and have tried to decipher the vid-speak before, but gave up and now just follow some guides that "Eugenia Loli" has produced on working w/ this cam and Vimeo - which if I recall does what you said - deinterlace using blend fields (and a few other tips). It definitely produces great results - even when ya don't know what the hell you're doing (like me!).

09-17-2009, 07:49 AM	#1
Stardust_ So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 407361011 Posts: 141	Good HD Camera - Budget 500$ Are there any good, or really good HD cameras for around 500$ that anyone could recommend? Also, is it worth considering Flash DRM?

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danevans Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 1,295	regarding the tapeless point, among the cheaper HD cameras (500-1000 new or used), hv30 tapes are the upside, because most of the tapeless cams use some internal codecs to compress the vid a bit and squeeze more footage on each memory card or drive.. hv30 keeps it as is, sorta raw.. at least thats what I've read on istock video forums. __________________ Custom adult games / apps for your paysites. webmaster at multimoodia.net icq35291012

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Stardust_ So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ICQ: 407361011 Posts: 141	No one???

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SonOfaBeach Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 240	I picked up a Canon Vixia HF100 last Christmas for about $530 and I love it. Granted ours is just for personal use, but it shoots beautiful full HD (1080p). It's a flash based camera. The HF100 comes w/ no on-board storage and just uses SDHC cards. Other models in the Vixia line do have some on-board storage - but for the price difference it's not worth it. Besides, I couldn't see any real advantage to having on-board flash memory vs just going w/ SDHC cards. I was able to pick up 3 16GB Transcend SDHC cards for < $30 each when I bought the cam. With SDCH cards so cheap these days, they're a pretty close match to tape as far as backup/storage is concerned - except they are a lot easier to work with and store. I can get just over 2 hours of 1920x1080 w/ each 16GB card. __________________ Sig nificant

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galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	I bought a Canon Vixia HG20 recently. I used it in conjunction with a green screen to record the video on this page. (I know, it's ridiculous ;))

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DonovanTrent Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 968	I'd stick with tape, if for no other reasons than the "instant backup" mentioned by stickyfingerz and the internal compression. I'd rather do my own compression however I want it, thank you. And stay away from cameras with internal hard drives, I've heard all kinds of fun stories. __________________ Donovan Trent

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Riffhard Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tampa Bay, FL Posts: 659	OOOHHH found one of my clips that hasn't been deleted: Keep in mind that this was recorded using cheap work lights before I knew how to properly light a scene. IMO even the cheapest camcorder can produce good footage with good lighting. HV20... __________________ Glad to be here. Glad to be anywhere.

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