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Fletch XXX · 12-08-2002, 12:42 PM

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DearAbby · 12-08-2002, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by xanx
Most of you have no clue... how many of you actually have put on a uniform and went to work and delt with all the scum on a daily basis. Believe me it would change your opinion a little.

True, it must be hard. However, if you become a police officer, you swear to uphold the law, not break it.

TDF · 12-08-2002, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Kat

If that isn't the most compelling reason to shoot them all I don't know what is.

believe me...if they were to do away with rap music the economy would spin into a shithole..i kid you not

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Kat

If that isn't the most compelling reason to shoot them all I don't know what is.

You are just fucking ignorant.

Rap is the most effective and broad reaching means of communication in our time. PERIOD.

jimmy3way · 12-08-2002, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli

yes they did..so who polices to police?? noone..

Nobody who is elected, as long as they want those cop and prison guard union votes.

You must know that the pigs and guards unions make up one of the largest, most well funded interest groups in Cali.

That's some scary shit: people who want to protect their own asses having that much power on and off the job. Makes me wanna move to Canada.

Phil21 · 12-08-2002, 12:47 PM

I shouldn't post, it will get me in trouble.

But.. Fuck that kid.

Sorry, but that's how I feel. This wasn't some innocent youngster walking along minding his own business then WHAMF some cops swooped down and snatched him up.

Not excusing the cops behaviour, they should be punished. But I refuse to shed tears over some little gangsta type I've spent most of my younger life having to live in fear of when all I wanted to do was be left the fuck alone. Sorry, I wasn't looking over my shoulder for cops when I was trying to get home after dark.

The fact is, a lot of those little idiots need to have the fear of god put into them, so they knock the shit off. The "catch and release" bullshit of the current system just doesn't work. I'm all for reform. *on both ends*

So.. Yeah, fire the cops for what they did. But damned if I'm going to really care too much if the streets are minus one little thug who fucks with people for the hell of it. Note who actually pulled the trigger. Other fine upstanding law-abiding gangster kiddies. But of course, just ignore that fact since it suits your political needs.

-Phil

Fletch XXX · 12-08-2002, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
Rap is the most effective and broad reaching means of communication in our time.

As an Artform, but not as communication tool.

I am certain the Internet reaches far more people than Rap Lyrics.

But I agree as Rap is a very broad reaching means of communication through Art, I just think as a 'communication' device, the Net blows it away.

Just my pennies though.

-smokin

TDF · 12-08-2002, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by jimmy3way

Nobody who is elected, as long as they want those cop and prison guard union votes.

You must know that the pigs and guards unions make up one of the largest, most well funded interest groups in Cali.

That's some scary shit: people who want to protect their own asses having that much power on and off the job. Makes me wanna move to Canada.

good thing I keep my MassiveCock tinfoil hat on and I live in a bomb shelter..its easier to pretend that life outside is great rather than live it..

xanx · 12-08-2002, 12:50 PM

There are good and bad just like any job. The good far out weigh the bad though...

TDF · 12-08-2002, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Phil21
I shouldn't post, it will get me in trouble.

But.. Fuck that kid.

Sorry, but that's how I feel. This wasn't some innocent youngster walking along minding his own business then WHAMF some cops swooped down and snatched him up.

Not excusing the cops behaviour, they should be punished. But I refuse to shed tears over some little gangsta type I've spent most of my younger life having to live in fear of when all I wanted to do was be left the fuck alone. Sorry, I wasn't looking over my shoulder for cops when I was trying to get home after dark.

The fact is, a lot of those little idiots need to have the fear of god put into them, so they knock the shit off. The "catch and release" bullshit of the current system just doesn't work. I'm all for reform. *on both ends*

So.. Yeah, fire the cops for what they did. But damned if I'm going to really care too much if the streets are minus one little thug who fucks with people for the hell of it. Note who actually pulled the trigger. Other fine upstanding law-abiding gangster kiddies. But of course, just ignore that fact since it suits your political needs.

-Phil

here at GFY we welcome difference of opinions..hell thats what makes it unique...but I think your a pussy punk bitch who has been watching too many Soul train re-runs and watching reruns of ROC

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 12:54 PM

I was talking about this last night with my GF.

You can no longer group rap art into some kind of hole of poverty and gang activity surrounding "black" culture... Rap has no limits and it's only a matter of time before the populat culture adapts this medium on a larger scale. It's not a fad -- this is a return to the oral tradition that died long ago... Ask people that are serious about literary theory -- they will tell you that the oral tradition is a superior means of communication. Eminem is just the tip of the iceberg.

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Phil21
But I refuse to shed tears over some little gangsta type I've spent most of my younger life having to live in fear of when all I wanted to do was be left the fuck alone.

Hence the popularity of Eminem... Now you see why he is so popular. Empathy for white youth raised in lower-class "bad neighborhoods".

xanx · 12-08-2002, 01:00 PM

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Originally posted by Phil21
I shouldn't post, it will get me in trouble.

But.. Fuck that kid.

Sorry, but that's how I feel. This wasn't some innocent youngster walking along minding his own business then WHAMF some cops swooped down and snatched him up.

Not excusing the cops behaviour, they should be punished. But I refuse to shed tears over some little gangsta type I've spent most of my younger life having to live in fear of when all I wanted to do was be left the fuck alone. Sorry, I wasn't looking over my shoulder for cops when I was trying to get home after dark.

The fact is, a lot of those little idiots need to have the fear of god put into them, so they knock the shit off. The "catch and release" bullshit of the current system just doesn't work. I'm all for reform. *on both ends*

So.. Yeah, fire the cops for what they did. But damned if I'm going to really care too much if the streets are minus one little thug who fucks with people for the hell of it. Note who actually pulled the trigger. Other fine upstanding law-abiding gangster kiddies. But of course, just ignore that fact since it suits your political needs.

-Phil

dude i agree with you.. it's just not many people here or other places truley look at these kids for what they are. shitbags.. i went to talk to a kid for shoplifting one time and after i asked him to get off his bike to come talk to me a GLOCK fell out from his pants.. fucker was 14..

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 01:00 PM

Think about it tho... Eminem did not get to be popular through lots of media promotion...

The guy looks like a little white dork. There's no amount of money and promotion that could make this little punk famous... The reason he is so popular is that his shit sells... That in itself is why he is so interesting... not because I particularly care for his music.

Phil21 · 12-08-2002, 01:09 PM

TDF - Think what you want. I don't even know wtf Soul Train and ROC is. ;)

Fact is I've had more than a couple guns drawn on me, people chasing me, etc. for the sole fact I lived in the wrong part of town. I could care less if all those fuckers die tomorrow. Really.

I have no problem with people choosing a lifestyle, so long as it doesn't effect others who don't want to be involved in it. But when those little worthless pieces of skin fuck with people purposely trying to avoid them anyways, they deserve to lose their freedom. So, go deal drugs, kill your rival gang members, whatever. I won't care. Live and let live. But when you kill the little old lady for crossing the street and supposedly "looking at you the wrong way" you just lost your right to live IMO.

If you think otherwise, then I'll call you an idiot.

-Phil

JJJ · 12-08-2002, 01:10 PM

I think all cops should be fired, wouldnt we be much better off.

TDF · 12-08-2002, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by Phil21
TDF - Think what you want. I don't even know wtf Soul Train and ROC is. ;)

Fact is I've had more than a couple guns drawn on me, people chasing me, etc. for the sole fact I lived in the wrong part of town. I could care less if all those fuckers die tomorrow. Really.

I have no problem with people choosing a lifestyle, so long as it doesn't effect others who don't want to be involved in it. But when those little worthless pieces of skin fuck with people purposely trying to avoid them anyways, they deserve to lose their freedom. So, go deal drugs, kill your rival gang members, whatever. I won't care. Live and let live. But when you kill the little old lady for crossing the street and supposedly "looking at you the wrong way" you just lost your right to live IMO.

If you think otherwise, then I'll call you an idiot.

-Phil

if if was a fifth,we'd all be drunk

Kat - Fast · 12-08-2002, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

You are just fucking ignorant.

Rap is the most effective and broad reaching means of communication in our time. PERIOD.

Really? How come the only 'message' I am receiving is 'bling bling gansta guns drugs hoes'?

TDF · 12-08-2002, 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by Kat

Really? How come the only 'message' I am receiving is 'bling bling gansta guns drugs hoes'?

because thats all you choose to get out of it..try listening to the Roots or Common..maybe that will expand your mind beyond its normal capacity...I guess all rock music is about is doing coke lines and worshipping satan

Fletch XXX · 12-08-2002, 01:15 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
I guess all rock music is about is doing coke lines and worshipping satan

I certainly hope so.

\m/

TDF · 12-08-2002, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch XXX

I certainly hope so.

\m/

god is not dead...he lies dormant inside my mind

Kat - Fast · 12-08-2002, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli

because thats all you choose to get out of it..try listening to the Roots or Common..maybe that will expand your mind beyond its normal capacity...I guess all rock music is about is doing coke lines and worshipping satan

What I state is what I see - the behaviours and quotes from rap artists, the lyrics that are portrayed by popular media (which I detest in itself) all give the impressionable youth that 'bling' is the way to live.
I go out in towns all over the UK and see youths infuenced by the (mTv)rap culture and it sickens me. They all want 'respec' and all they deserve is a kick in the fuckin teeth.

TDF · 12-08-2002, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Kat

What I state is what I see - the behaviours and quotes from rap artists, the lyrics that are portrayed by popular media (which I detest in itself) all give the impressionable youth that 'bling' is the way to live.
I go out in towns all over the UK and see youths infuenced by the (mTv)rap culture and it sickens me. They all want 'respec' and all they deserve is a kick in the fuckin teeth.

you sir..are an idiot and need your ears cut off..respectively

Kat - Fast · 12-08-2002, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli

you sir..are an idiot and need your ears cut off..respectively

lol - come walk with me - no holding hands though...

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Kat

Really? How come the only 'message' I am receiving is 'bling bling gansta guns drugs hoes'?

You have to read between the lines. The best way to communicate your ideas is to attach them to pop culture.

Babaganoosh · 12-08-2002, 01:46 PM

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Originally posted by BVF

I wasn't even going to post on this thread until I saw this idiotic bullshit right here. That is the most RIDICULOUS comparison I've seen on here in a long time.

The average black/white/jewish crime suspect doesn't swear an oath to protect the public as a responsible criminal. The average suspect isn't given a gun and a badge by a government authority and given carte blanche to go out on the streets and arrest someone. The average suspect doesn't have the power to rig and tamper with evidence in order to get someone convicted. The average suspect isn't allowed to shoot someone with little more than a slap on the wrist, if that and excused by his/her superiors. So how in the fuck does a criminal compare to a person WITH A FUCKING BADGE ON??

yes, there are bad apples in every bunch. but when a person swears an oath to protect and serve, that puts them at a greater responsiblity than your average black criminal suspect. AND it is the responsiblity of the higher powers to weed out every single criminal that is wearing a badge.

You need to stick to talking about TGP's and porn because some of you are clueless when it comes to real life subjects.

It's people like you that are the problem. You put the police on a pedestal, perhaps subconsciously, but you still do it. Remember, cops are just people. Some of them forget that they are just ordinary men & women, but the majority of them are well aware of that. An oath does not make them superhuman. Everyone is capable of bad judgement.

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 01:47 PM

A perfect example is this song I was listening to... The main lryics go like this:

"Spend money honey. Spend money honey."

And then in between all the lryics there's this guy that says,

"Spend nigga!" "Drink nigga!"

I had to listen to that shit for a whole month before I realized that the message is not really to spend and drink -- the message is that you are a stupid fucking chump if you buy into all the "bling bling" and "let's get fucked up" attitude... That's how these rappers can claim to destroy their opponents... All I have to do is tap into your insecurity, your weakness, etc. with my lyrics -- and you are at my mercy... So for all the people that whine about rap music -- they are just victims in the line of fire of the rap artist -- and yet the message continues -- driven by economics -- that *IS* true genius -- and remember, TheFLY said so.

gimpdog · 12-08-2002, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered

It's people like you that are the problem. You put the police on a pedestal, perhaps subconsciously, but you still do it. Remember, cops are just people. Some of them forget that they are just ordinary men & women, but the majority of them are well aware of that. An oath does not make them superhuman. Everyone is capable of bad judgement.

well, duh

just look at the prez

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by Kat
Really? How come the only 'message' I am receiving is 'bling bling gansta guns drugs hoes'?

You've been PLAYED nigga!

Haha...

Kat - Fast · 12-08-2002, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

You have to read between the lines. The best way to communicate your ideas is to attach them to pop culture.

I can understand that theory - do you think a 16 yo homie is going to look beyond the stylised images to read an underlying message? He's going to look at guns, hoes and bling and think - 'Cool'

eroswebmaster · 12-08-2002, 02:10 PM

Watched an interesting documentary about rampart on Court TV about a year ago...so all the details are a bit shaky.

Well anyway there were a couple of cops tied to a bank robbery...these cops were also friends with Shug Knight and it goes deeper than that.

Anyway I don't recall exactly what type of car was spotted driving away from the scene of Biggie's murder but anyway after these cops were arrested they found a similar car parked in one of their garages with a shrine to Tupac in there...LOL

Now these cops are in San Quentin and are big time gang leaders.

But more importantly what is starting to worry me about cops is false confessions and the erosion of the miranda rights.

You need to watch this movie on Court TV called "The interrogation of Michael Crowe."

Damn this shit is getting out of hand and to think police organizations actually tried to get the law that forces them to mirandize suspects repealled.

xanx · 12-08-2002, 02:13 PM

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"The interrogation of Michael Crowe."

Is that the case where the police were questioning the kid about his sisters murder or something?

eroswebmaster · 12-08-2002, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by xanx

Is that the case where the police were questioning the kid about his sisters murder or something?

Yeah they got him and some other kid a friend to admit to it...and then they accused yet a third friend of his being involved.

They even interviewed a homeless guy who was in the neighborhood and earlier that day followed young girls into an apartment complex but didn't take it any further.

Finally the kid's lawyer had this homeless man's shirt tested again and they found blood where the DNA matched the kid's sister...to this day the cops and prosecutor still think it was the brother...the state has dropped all charges, declared the kids innocent and is now prosecuting the homeless guy.

But damn man watch that show and then watch the show System on court tv and you can see the real interview tapes.

This poor kid spent 8 months in jail, never got to go to his sister's funeral...the family really never got to even mourn...they were too busy trying to take care of this situation.

thatdykeliz · 12-08-2002, 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
The police department is not responsible for knowing the perimeter of gang territories!!!

They aren't? I was under the impression that it was the job of the police department to have all the information they need to enforce the law. Knowing where each active gang's territory is would seem to me to be a vital piece of information -- not just for gang violence task forces, etc, but for the goddamn beat cops who patrol the streets every day. How are you going to be effective if you don't know what goes on, who is allied with whom, who is fueding with whom? Sounds like the cops in toodamnfli's post knew exactly what was goin on, and they used that information to their advantage -- and to cause the probable assault (and death) of the guy they dropped off.

ColKurtz · 12-08-2002, 03:50 PM

Rap is shit. Do you really think all these white kids in the suburbs who think its cool will still like it when they are 25. LOL. not.

Its only appeal is to inner city people, and young wiggers in the burbs looking for a way to rebel and shock mommy and daddy.

People who dress and act like gangstas, will always be treated as gangstas.

TDF · 12-08-2002, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
Rap is shit. Do you really think all these white kids in the suburbs who think its cool will still like it when they are 25. LOL. not.

Its only appeal is to inner city people, and young wiggers in the burbs looking for a way to rebel and shock mommy and daddy.

People who dress and act like gangstas, will always be treated as gangstas.

the same thing was said of rock music and zoot suits of the 50's...your point is?

ColKurtz · 12-08-2002, 03:56 PM

"the same thing was said of rock music and zoot suits of the 50's...your point is?"

The difference is rock music has lasted the test of time and has appeal for people over 16.

Look how many classic rock stations there are.

Do you think some white kid is going to be listening to gin and juice when they are 35

TDF · 12-08-2002, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
"the same thing was said of rock music and zoot suits of the 50's...your point is?"

The difference is rock music has lasted the test of time and has appeal for people over 16.

Look how many classic rock stations there are.

Do you think some white kid is going to be listening to gin and juice when they are 35

of course they will..good music will stand the test of time.Rap affects everyone from ages 13-65. Rap is more than just a music..its poetry in motion.Listen to Ameri Baraka and Olu Dara..rap has been around since the 60's man..it all started from africa and the griots who told stories of their heritage in rhyme format to their children to keep their culture alive. Listen to ATCQ and you will learn a lot about life and social events of the world.

TDF · 12-08-2002, 04:02 PM

by your format rock is only popular because it has a few classical stations on the radio..typical response from a member of the media flock...do you eat meat? If there was another madcow outbreak because the media said so how long will u do without?

jimmy3way · 12-08-2002, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Damn this shit is getting out of hand and to think police organizations actually tried to get the law that forces them to mirandize suspects repealled.

What the fuck you mean TRIED?? This shit happened last year, cops don't have to Mirandize you anymore.

gimpdog · 12-08-2002, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
by your format rock is only popular because it has a few classical stations on the radio..typical response from a member of the media flock...do you eat meat? If there was another madcow outbreak because the media said so how long will u do without?

testify brother!

ColKurtz · 12-08-2002, 04:32 PM

theres not just a few classic rock stations. There is a large one in every city, and often times it is one of the most popular stations in the city.

People listen to it because they like it. Bands like led zepplin, pink floyd, rolling stones, etc, music continue to be popular because its actually good.

Some guy from the hood yelling about bitches and hoes and saying mother fucker every other word dosent have the same appeal to someone over 25 that has attained some maturity.

You can give some bullshit spin about media brainwashing but that is an idiotic stance to use on music that has been popular for 30 years.

The only brainwashing is what goes on top 40 stations, which play a lot of hip hop, that try and convince people what is good music and what they should go and buy.

Pharrell · 12-08-2002, 04:33 PM

toodamnfli-

you dont like the police in the US? try living in South America and dealing with the corrupt police! when you compare I think you would take comfort living in the US

gimpdog · 12-08-2002, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
Some guy from the hood yelling about bitches and hoes and saying mother fucker every other word

yeah, like p diddy is from the 'hood'

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
Rap is shit. Do you really think all these white kids in the suburbs who think its cool will still like it when they are 25. LOL. not.

I guess you are too cool for anything when you're old.

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by ColKurtz
People listen to it because they like it. Bands like led zepplin, pink floyd, rolling stones, etc, music continue to be popular because its actually good.

It's called "classic"-rock for a reason. It's over and done with.

Kat - Fast · 12-08-2002, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by TheFLY

It's called "classic"-rock for a reason. It's over and done with.

It's called classic rock because it's lasted longer than 2 months in the pop charts with all the manufactured boy bands. I've just come back from a rock bar that played every sort of rock tune from 1978 to 2002 - Hmm when are the rap bars gonna shut that down....?

cherrylula · 12-08-2002, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
btw, police moral is so bad here that they are recruiting people from other states and paying their moving fees. WHy you ask? No-one wants to be a cop here in LA..

yeah my friend is banging this lapd guy, he was just moved here from Boston, MA less than two years ago after passing some test, to join the LAPD. All expenses paid.

TheFLY · 12-08-2002, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Kat

It's called classic rock because it's lasted longer than 2 months in the pop charts with all the manufactured boy bands. I've just come back from a rock bar that played every sort of rock tune from 1978 to 2002 - Hmm when are the rap bars gonna shut that down....?

Yeah, and people still listen to Mozart.

Just the Village Idiot · 12-08-2002, 09:16 PM

There are bad cops??? Really???

All this talk about rap music being a new age philosophy is rather comical... but continue.

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Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	I shouldn't post, it will get me in trouble. But.. Fuck that kid. Sorry, but that's how I feel. This wasn't some innocent youngster walking along minding his own business then WHAMF some cops swooped down and snatched him up. Not excusing the cops behaviour, they should be punished. But I refuse to shed tears over some little gangsta type I've spent most of my younger life having to live in fear of when all I wanted to do was be left the fuck alone. Sorry, I wasn't looking over my shoulder for cops when I was trying to get home after dark. The fact is, a lot of those little idiots need to have the fear of god put into them, so they knock the shit off. The "catch and release" bullshit of the current system just doesn't work. I'm all for reform. on both ends So.. Yeah, fire the cops for what they did. But damned if I'm going to really care too much if the streets are minus one little thug who fucks with people for the hell of it. Note who actually pulled the trigger. Other fine upstanding law-abiding gangster kiddies. But of course, just ignore that fact since it suits your political needs. -Phil

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TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I was talking about this last night with my GF. You can no longer group rap art into some kind of hole of poverty and gang activity surrounding "black" culture... Rap has no limits and it's only a matter of time before the populat culture adapts this medium on a larger scale. It's not a fad -- this is a return to the oral tradition that died long ago... Ask people that are serious about literary theory -- they will tell you that the oral tradition is a superior means of communication. Eminem is just the tip of the iceberg.

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TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	Think about it tho... Eminem did not get to be popular through lots of media promotion... The guy looks like a little white dork. There's no amount of money and promotion that could make this little punk famous... The reason he is so popular is that his shit sells... That in itself is why he is so interesting... not because I particularly care for his music.

12-08-2002, 01:09 PM	#65
Phil21 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: ICQ: 25285313 Posts: 993	TDF - Think what you want. I don't even know wtf Soul Train and ROC is. ;) Fact is I've had more than a couple guns drawn on me, people chasing me, etc. for the sole fact I lived in the wrong part of town. I could care less if all those fuckers die tomorrow. Really. I have no problem with people choosing a lifestyle, so long as it doesn't effect others who don't want to be involved in it. But when those little worthless pieces of skin fuck with people purposely trying to avoid them anyways, they deserve to lose their freedom. So, go deal drugs, kill your rival gang members, whatever. I won't care. Live and let live. But when you kill the little old lady for crossing the street and supposedly "looking at you the wrong way" you just lost your right to live IMO. If you think otherwise, then I'll call you an idiot. -Phil

12-08-2002, 01:10 PM	#66
JJJ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 97	I think all cops should be fired, wouldnt we be much better off.

12-08-2002, 01:47 PM	#77
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	A perfect example is this song I was listening to... The main lryics go like this: "Spend money honey. Spend money honey." And then in between all the lryics there's this guy that says, "Spend nigga!" "Drink nigga!" I had to listen to that shit for a whole month before I realized that the message is not really to spend and drink -- the message is that you are a stupid fucking chump if you buy into all the "bling bling" and "let's get fucked up" attitude... That's how these rappers can claim to destroy their opponents... All I have to do is tap into your insecurity, your weakness, etc. with my lyrics -- and you are at my mercy... So for all the people that whine about rap music -- they are just victims in the line of fire of the rap artist -- and yet the message continues -- driven by economics -- that IS true genius -- and remember, TheFLY said so.

12-08-2002, 03:50 PM	#85
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	Rap is shit. Do you really think all these white kids in the suburbs who think its cool will still like it when they are 25. LOL. not. Its only appeal is to inner city people, and young wiggers in the burbs looking for a way to rebel and shock mommy and daddy. People who dress and act like gangstas, will always be treated as gangstas.

12-08-2002, 03:56 PM	#87
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	"the same thing was said of rock music and zoot suits of the 50's...your point is?" The difference is rock music has lasted the test of time and has appeal for people over 16. Look how many classic rock stations there are. Do you think some white kid is going to be listening to gin and juice when they are 35

12-08-2002, 04:32 PM	#92
ColKurtz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambodia Posts: 596	theres not just a few classic rock stations. There is a large one in every city, and often times it is one of the most popular stations in the city. People listen to it because they like it. Bands like led zepplin, pink floyd, rolling stones, etc, music continue to be popular because its actually good. Some guy from the hood yelling about bitches and hoes and saying mother fucker every other word dosent have the same appeal to someone over 25 that has attained some maturity. You can give some bullshit spin about media brainwashing but that is an idiotic stance to use on music that has been popular for 30 years. The only brainwashing is what goes on top 40 stations, which play a lot of hip hop, that try and convince people what is good music and what they should go and buy.

12-08-2002, 04:33 PM	#93
Pharrell Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 63	toodamnfli- you dont like the police in the US? try living in South America and dealing with the corrupt police! when you compare I think you would take comfort living in the US