Sorry, I can just picture you shouting that at the screen. :1orglaugh

Thanks for reminding me on the benefits of HGH! I had a natural supplement that was a hybrid synthetic HGH with colustrum (good stuff found in breast milk). I was dealing with a fairly serious medical condition that needed major surgery to help fix. I started the HGH about a month before the surgery and my Dr. couldn't believe how quickly I bounced back from such a major procedure about 2 weeks sooner than average.

Unfortunately they discontinued this particular brand of HGH and I've been looking for something similar since.

Glad it's working out for you! Keep it up!!!

Educate me a little. Is 2 iu per day for rejuvenation purposes something that you continually take, for years. Are there repercussions from stopping etc? ... Thanks


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No none at all. I'd taper off for 3 weeks though so you don't leave your pituitary gland in a lurch.
Hgh is mainly a price issue. It's great though. If I was a little more vain I'd post pics. I went from a total fat peice of SH to being pretty solid. I started out bench pressing 225 now I can hit 315 for 6 reps. And, I no longer need to be on the paxil I was taking for anxiety. If you are in nj/ny, I have a great doc for you.
Cheers, and good health!
Duke

F It---
here is a pic of me 3 weeks ago http://img269.yfrog.com/i/nhk.jpg/
and here is a pic of me a few days ago after seeing my doc and getting HGH. I had low test and low HGH and extremly low vitamin d. http://img33.yfrog.com/i/ngsu.jpg/
I don't know if you think I look good or not. I'm one of those guys who always thinks there is massive room for improvement. But I do see improvement between the two pics,
It works,
Duke

p.s. right now i'm a 36 inch waist. I want to hit a 32 by winter. I'm 5'5 and weight 230. I have plenty of fat to loose, but i put on a good deal of muscle too. I probally have 40 lbs to loose and i'd be quite ripped. 5'5 190 is a pretty solid weight. I hope i can hit it.

Thank you very much. (big difference) I will email you later. Need some z's ... Lee



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Yeah you need to take T3, Horse hormones, Insulin, Clenbuterol, Proviron, Deca and Sustanon in conjunction with the HGH then tell me how you feel.

Throw in some Creatine aswell

You can read about it all day....The only way to see if you like it is to go to a gym and start bench pressing.

I can remember when I took Sustanon for the first time, wthin one week my bench press went up from 110Kg for 3 reps stright to 130kg for 3 reps.... HGH just kept me looking younger..... think I might need to take some agin sometime.

thats some hardcore placebo man, you will not feel test in days...or even a week which is why people jumpstart their cycles with an oral for weeks 1-4 while running an injectable at the same time.

Hi, Sustanon is a mixture of testosterones remember.... So obviously the the faster acting testosterones showed their effects in the first week and plus being clean the effect were greater as my body reaced quicker to the 1000mg of Sust. After the first week of strength gains there were no more gains excepts in body size.

The best ever cycle was Test propionate, with horse hormones, hgh, t3, clen, proviron, nolvadex, wintrol, halotestin and then to finish off with clomid and HCG - became really lean and vascular

Sounds interesting...

Yeah it is interesting.... horse hormones made me really vascular and I started eating like a horse too. Would wake up for no reason at night with a huge urge to eat food..... Also my cock became really vascular and would get boners all the time that would not go down. Also even after say cumming I would keep a solid boner and it just never went down and some girl said to me "what the fuck are you on, you just seem to be able to fuck and fuck" - I think porn producers look for these qualities in a male actor??? I had to come off the gear becuase I started going loopy and now everything is back to normal - no more vascular superman cock, just Clark Kent!

what do you look like to be taking that last cycle you posted, i would hope you became lean and vascular, thats pretty much a full recomp cycle. how long did you run each compound, doses, etc? Pretty damn diesel if you ask me, all youd need in there is some Tren and i'd say your legally insane lol. how'd your body fair with the clen/t3?

I need to find a doc in MA for this. Tried to get test because my levels are low and they said they were OK right now...which they are not...I was being treated in AZ not to long ago dammit.

I would love to find a very good hormone therapy doctor. I have had blood tests done that show that I have very very low testosterone according to what "traditional" guidelines say that I should have.

I truly believe upping that level would help me with a variety of things that I now take traditional meds for. But I also want a doctor who knows what they are doing as I obviously do not want too much testosterone.

Hi

I did not need Tren because I was using Haltestin..... whatever I am talking about was 5 years ago when I was 24.

I did do alot of cardio with my cycle and got my abs showing a 4 pack but then Christmas came and then after that just became bulky. Who ever touched me could not believe how solid the muscle tissue was....

The side effects were, acne, above normal aggression level when not needed, not able to think rationally, contant boners, need for sex 247..... thinking I was too small (17 stones), over analysing physique like oh damn tricep shape needs to be improved etc etc

Any way, glad to be clean and back to normal

BTW - my mate was taking a rat poison as a cutting agent, cannot remember the name of it.


Oh and the cycle was 12 weeks, 8 weeks on the gear and then 4 weeks coming off using clomid and hcg.... cannot remember the dosages.

Clen/t3 - really felt their power when doing cardio as my body would heat up more than normal therefore burning the fat.... the sweat would show steam comming off my body

ust buy it on the blackmarket

same here...and it's free

I started walking July 1st, first 2 miles, now 3 and next month bumping it 4. Feeling better physically and mentally. It's a great antidote to the Too Much Time on the Computer syndrome.

Interesting thread. Has anyone had any negative side effects from this therapy?

What from just HGH?

Then you feel slightly tighter, better body composition and look a tiny bit younger, better skin condition but you have to take it for some time and it costs a lot of money....

My father uses the growth hormone because he had his pituitary gland removed because of a tumor wrapped around it.

Amazing what that stuff can do and counteract.

So if I'm middle aged and just want to feel and look a little better small doses of HGH are a good thing? The only drawback is that they cost a grand a month? Sort of like a super vitamin?


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You people taking this to 'feel better' need to wake up to your addiction problem.

Your body stops producing testosterone, naturally, as a "result" of your "life style."

I understand some people have "real" medical reasons to take this, the rest of you are on drugs.



P.S. For the people interested, your body naturally produces everything you need. Change your diet and work out more, the results will be FAR more beneficial than a drug ever could be. Health is about balance....

a lot of ignorance in this thread, just sayin....

That's why I'm curious .......


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Try looking for a female endocrinologist in your area. Let them check your thyroid, hgh, and test levels. Make sure you get a woman who will understand your needs as a woman. Claudia-Marie has been seeing a female endo here in Vegas for about 6 months and has HGH, test, and thyroid regimens she is on. HUGE difference in every way for her.
The test you'll get is a very weak cream to rub on. But that tiny bit of test is necessary in women. And get ready for your sex drive to go into overdrive. :Graucho:Graucho

why the need to shit on almost every thread. You must be a very unhappy person.

That's true, for young people.

Not true for guys my age. A man stops producing testosterone early on. Not completely stops, but begins to stop. A man who is 60 will often have less testosterone in his system than a 19 year old woman.

I'm 47 years old...and my body just doesn't produce enough test on it's own to make me feel worth a shit. I don't know if it's because people just aren't supposed to live as long as medical science has made possible or what. (remember the average lifespan was in the 30's a few centuries back) But for whatever reason, I don't think a man should have to grow older looking and feeling like shit.

If I can replace the NATURAL hormones that my body produced as a young man and feel that energy, power, and mental clarity again...then why shouldn't I use testosterone therapy?

I'd rather have the muscular body I have now (I work out everyday at the gym) with a hard cock....than to be what I see most men my age look like: they look like they could be my grandfather. lol I don't want to end up soft, fat bellied, out of shape, no dick, and dying from a dozen little ailments brought on by lack of physical activity that can be directly attributed to lack of drive and weakness of body brought on by a lack of testosterone in the system.

A man who is low on testosterone simply can't just go to the gym and get in shape. It doesn't work that way.

Not getting into the mental aspects of it...just from a physiological standpoint... a guy who has low testosterone CAN'T get in shape. Their muscle tissue won't grow back fast enough after breaking it down during excercise. And since muscle burns fat...they will continue to get fatter. And the fatter they get, the less ability they have to excercise.

It's a vicious circle. Testosterone therapy can break that cycle by giving you back the necessary hormones that you are missing as you age.

As far as guys doing hardcore bodybuilding...yeah they are overdoing it and taking a lot of drugs to get what they want. But that should be their business...not the government or law enforcement. Fucking govt. needs to stay out of people's lives and go back to working FOR us instead of arresting people for bodybuilding. Or partying. Or anything else they can dream up to control people's lives. </rant>

^ deleted my entire post, you beat me to it GREAT POST. Badmaash completely over did his cycle, thats something a PRO or semi-pro should be on, not a recreational user of this stuff. Everything in moderation, more does not always mean better, especially in regards to stuff like this.

you rarely comment on anything and make sense.

as usual, this is not one of those moments where you do.

Hello

The cycle was not overdone..... I went to a gym that had a lot of competing athletes and I also trained very very hard, 7 days a week and for half a year was training twice a day, eating 8 times a day. You should not jump to conclusions of what is right or wrong for someone....

I think that it was a moderate cycle....

Also.... I would not call my self a recreational user as you can see that I trained hard, my training partner actually went and competed on stage. I have competed in weight lifting.... My social circle was just all hardcore people at the time so naturally had the dedication and motivation be able to train as hard as I did.

Put it this way, I was not in the gym only training arms and chest (now thats a recreational guy)!

Anyway, train hard

I have been training since the age of 16 until I turned 26 and have been only going a little bit for the last three years because I wanted a change and now am ready to go back properly but naturally this time (well maybe creatine and things like that)

I've used the cream and it didn't help any. I have had the pellet therapy, where they make a tiny incision and put that in. I felt fan*fucking*tastic for about 3 days, then it went away. The last doctor that I talked to said that was likely due to me metabolizing it too quickly. I dunno.

He wrote me a script for a pill form of test, but the insurance wouldn't cover it.

So I am kind of in limbo until I can afford to go back to the doctor who originally ran a zillion tests and determined that I have practically no test. Hopefully he will come up with something.

^ you know what man i completely misread what you said, you said BEST cycle, i thought it was only your 2nd cycle. Honest mistake, keep it up man. Im just getting back in the swing myself, double hernia surgery here =/ still recovering

when did you start using it?

any pill form of test will need to be metalobized during the first pass through the liver. This pass is liver toxic, not really the best mode of taking testosterone, u should run that by your DR too

That's how the natural progression of your life SHOULD be.. It's "time for you to calm down" as your entire body does.

It's NATURAL... It's NOT natural to inject hormones into your body, unless you absolutely need them.

Now in your case, maybe you do need them. Maybe you eat well enough and your workout is proper for your age. You aren't as young as MANY of the people in this thread but 47 isn't old either.


So unless you have a real medical problem... you can rejuvenate your body without hormone injections, your body can produce testosterone again, naturally.


But it's never going to be back where it was, you shouldn't feel younger, because you aren't younger. If you don't like how you feel, change your entire style, it's really that simple.

Yeah, I read something to that effect when I was researching the script before I tried to fill it. I had almost talked myself out of taking it, then I decided to try it for a few days. Then I found out it wasn't an option in terms of being covered.

I think the name of it was Methyltestosterone