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Old 12-07-2002, 02:19 PM   #51
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Click here for my 'blue fuzzy widgets nude at the beach'
http://spam.blue-fuzzy-widgets-nude-at-the-beach.gov'

YEAH !
Should get me a PR10 !
Itīs a Adult/nonAdult domain !
Canīt be registered !
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:32 PM   #52
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Great idea!

To bad its three years old and the fight over expired domains is harder than rebuiding ARS from scratch
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Old 12-07-2002, 03:34 PM   #53
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Remember Chicken Littles:

By the time something effective gets posted on this board (usually by some dumbass newb) - it's already been pummelled near to death by everyone else.

Real professionals don't post their secrets, whether they're ethical ones or not, only the morons do.

So, your worries about Google "fucking everyone" are unwarranted. I'm sure Google is quite aware of the situation, and they employ more raw brainpower than the sum IQ of this BBS, I'm sure they'll be able to deal with some dumbass spammers.

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Old 12-07-2002, 04:11 PM   #54
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Wheres Wiredguy, hes the SE guru...what does he have to say on this?
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Old 12-07-2002, 04:13 PM   #55
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What happens if 11 people take your advice?
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Old 12-07-2002, 04:14 PM   #56
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hey ! can we let this thread die ?
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Old 12-07-2002, 04:52 PM   #57
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Wheres Wiredguy, hes the SE guru...what does he have to say on this?
Sorry, I was on a date

My thoughts on this... it kind of works. I know first hand because I used to do it about a 16 months ago when Google's ranking formula's were rather slow and inept. Then this thing called ethics started to kick in. This techniques leads to very temporary traffic. Say you get the number one spot on a domain name that expired in an unrelated category. It will be a week or at most 3 weeks before your delisted. It's not because DMOZ editors are lazy, but rather your competition that will rat on you to Google and you then get the ban.

Rather than getting your domain or IP block banned, it's better to develop quality domains and build your traffic. There are categories in DMOZ (Adult) which have good PR boosts and its easier to get listed there than playing the 1-3 week game. I have some listings on DMOZ that have been there for over a year and I still get traffic from those and from the Google boost they give. So if you want to jump from domain to domain every month, be my guest. I prefer to stay in this business in the long term, for years, not 1-3 weeks. You won't get much repeat traffic if Google changes their algo.

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Old 12-07-2002, 04:59 PM   #58
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By the way, you linking directly to your sponsors (via FPA) isn't that great an idea. There's more effective ways to get that number 5 spot to number 1 or 2. I won't post them though since I don't want to encourage this type of activity.

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Old 12-07-2002, 05:00 PM   #59
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Sorry, I was on a date

My thoughts on this... it kind of works. I know first hand because I used to do it about a 16 months ago when Google's ranking formula's were rather slow and inept. Then this thing called ethics started to kick in. This techniques leads to very temporary traffic. Say you get the number one spot on a domain name that expired in an unrelated category. It will be a week or at most 3 weeks before your delisted. It's not because DMOZ editors are lazy, but rather your competition that will rat on you to Google and you then get the ban.

Rather than getting your domain or IP block banned, it's better to develop quality domains and build your traffic. There are categories in DMOZ (Adult) which have good PR boosts and its easier to get listed there than playing the 1-3 week game. I have some listings on DMOZ that have been there for over a year and I still get traffic from those and from the Google boost they give. So if you want to jump from domain to domain every month, be my guest. I prefer to stay in this business in the long term, for years, not 1-3 weeks. You won't get much repeat traffic if Google changes their algo.

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very intelligent answer. quick buck schemes are old.
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Old 12-07-2002, 05:39 PM   #60
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Old 12-07-2002, 05:43 PM   #61
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Old 12-07-2002, 06:17 PM   #62
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I hate it when the girl says let's just be friends... yeah...
I hate being single sometimes ...

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Old 12-07-2002, 06:48 PM   #63
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Buy expired DMOZ and YAHOO domains with PageRank.
It doesn't matter which category (sports, shopping ... everything
is possible).

The DMOZ editors are LAMERZ, they will need months to realize
that you have placed adult content on these domains.

Choose a category with PR <5 at DMOZ.

Categories <5 will give you high PR within 3 days (when the freshbot visits them).

Place a FPA to your sponsor and the keywords you would like to be in the top 10 in the title.

Now you are ready to get some real traffic from Google
This is a decent idea for my baseball card sales I do on the side. Where can I find what collectible domains are availble.
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Old 12-07-2002, 06:54 PM   #64
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This is a decent idea for my baseball card sales I do on the side. Where can I find what collectible domains are availble.
The best way is directly from Verisign. You can license their databases (absolutely enormous) where you can filter expired domains and get them right as they drop. Of course this is a very difficult project to manage without large servers. Alternately, I believe there is a user on here by Brajah (sp?) who has a good resource site on this.

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Old 12-07-2002, 07:11 PM   #65
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you still have to target your audience if your getting bs/inappropiate traffic it won't convert ,marketing is still marketing.
are kids gonna have a credit card????
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Old 12-08-2002, 08:44 AM   #66
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Yeah, I am also glad I posted this
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Old 12-08-2002, 08:56 AM   #67
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Web4x - where do I find the domains that are expired.
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Old 12-08-2002, 10:02 AM   #68
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No it won't, Google algo is dumb

Search for big cocks at google

http://www.google.com/search?num=50&...=big+cocks&lr=

and you will get

#1 News > Magazines and E-zines > E-zines
www.beerandivy.com/


#4 Health > Medicine > Employment
www.cpr4docs.com


Both expired domains at DMOZ which have been registered to suck PageRank from non-adult categories at DMOZ.

If you were exploring a bit you would notice that BOTH domains have been already DELETED from DMOZ directories LONG time ago because DMOZ editors do care what's in their listings. Only problem is that google directories haven't been updated yet. After next dance both domains will be history.
Yes this is one possibility how to get into google but only for short time and it's the best way how to get into problems. I personally really like to report hijacked domains to editors and they respond fast.
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Old 12-08-2002, 10:57 AM   #69
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Just download a link checker and scan dmoz categories with high PageRank.

Look for domains which are soon to expire or expired.
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Old 12-08-2002, 02:41 PM   #70
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Already someone having success picing expired gems?
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Old 12-09-2002, 05:22 AM   #71
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Hey Web4x


thanks for dropping the info


can you contact me on icq 3318721 , like to discuss
it more

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Old 01-09-2003, 12:59 PM   #72
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Old 01-09-2003, 01:07 PM   #73
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Web4x i got some idea that might interest you get in touch with me.
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Old 01-09-2003, 01:12 PM   #74
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Again (since September 2002), Google has not updated their dmoz listings, let's buy expired domains and make $$$$$$

People who got an expired domain in September/Oct. still have high PR and make shitloads of cash.


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Again (since September 2002), Google has not updated their dmoz listings, let's buy expired domains and make $$$$$$

People who got an expired domain in September/Oct. still have high PR and make shitloads of cash.


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Here's one way to find legits:

http://www.google.com/search?q=google+rankings

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Old 04-11-2003, 01:46 PM   #78
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Google is/has/will be changing their algo to remove all PR from sites that expire to plug up this hole. This is old news in the google world and won't work anymore or for very long anymore.
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Old 04-11-2003, 01:50 PM   #79
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Best thing is, you get a link checker and query all dmoz categories
24h a day with high PageRank (for example with a cronjob) and register all the expired gems you will find.
Uh, google knows about this and is phasing this exploit out now.

Old information. There was even a thread here about it.

Use s e a r c h before posting. Search for 'no more free bananas' and you'll find that old thread.

shouldn't you be reporting spammers, queer bait?
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There's much easier ways to get a high PR without any real work and without spending money. They also don't force kids to see porn. From what I've seen a handfull of webmasters know about them but I personally haven't tried the methods as it's kind of a grey area, even though it really doesn't negatively affect anyone else.

Idea: would anyone run a program or script to automatically scan DMOZ and google for spammers and report them if I wrote one?
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I remembered this thread when reading about the new laws posted in the other thread.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=124463

I am not asking or wanting to cause any trouble, I just think this behavior is what causes such things to happen hurting the industry as a whole
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web4x you're the same pussy that was crying about someone who probably did something similar with google.

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=119524

bring back memories?
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web4x you're the same pussy that was crying about someone who probably did something similar with google.

http://www.gfyboard.com/showthread.p...hreadid=119524

bring back memories?
Was just about to post the EXACT same reply.

This C U N T complains to Google when webmasters actually spend some time getting a shitload of number one spots then, a week or two later tells everyone how to spam the engine.

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Old 04-11-2003, 02:42 PM   #85
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I almost hate to say this, but why do you think we started fallendomains.com in the first place. The smarter people know they can use this idea intelligently, meaning promote relevant sites or products not just redir everything to porn, and make a killing.
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Old 04-11-2003, 02:45 PM   #86
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However if you want to do things the right way, you could always learn by this......

Googles algo?
Inbound link text: 10 points.
title: 10 points
domain name: 7 points
large h1-h2 headings: 5 points
first sentence of first paragraph 5 points
path or filename: 4 points
proximity (multi kws): 4
beginning of a sentence 1.5 points
bold or italic text: 1 points
usage in text: 1 point
title attribute: 1 point
alt tag: .5 point
meta descrip: .5 points
meta keywords: .05 point


And dont bother emailing me asking how the fuck.....
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Old 04-11-2003, 03:00 PM   #87
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