its kill or be killed, paysites doing 50% less joins = less movies being downloaded, less people doing hosted galleries or getting traffic to them = death for old fashioned hosts.

So as transparent as you are I doubt you'll just come out and admit that if you didn't make this move you'd slowly continue seeing less and less revenue monthly just like the rest of the hosting world.

Tubes for hosts are a band aid for now but whatever you can do to survive ya gotta do, fact is regardless of the amount of notices you get you well know you are supplying the means for millions of surfers to view pirated movies, so while this is great for your business its fucking someone elses, but in a dog eat dog world this is how it works.

Im no angel but why people here have decided to turn this into a ass kissing thread is beyond me.

What is your tube url? Do you have a gay section ?

No thanks. I leave that part up to you. :thumbsup

I dont think its possible to "DMCA these sites out of existence" as you put it. Nothing will change, before something harder than a DMCA notice is the result of stealing other peoples content.

Two reasons:
1 - its profitable
2 - it dont hurt much to break the law a little

That is at least how I see it through my "the glass is half empty" specticals

:Oh crap:pimp:upsidedow

brad, i never hesistate to tell you how much i consider you the piller of integrity in this community and i know you will inherenty always do the right thing, which matters much more than some blanket policy

I wholeheartedly agree!

And ya' know....we should all be so lucky to have a business where we can make a lot of money and at the same time - fuck a lot of people out of theirs. Now that my friends - is a great business model :thumbsup

If you only knew the POWA of the dark side...


:2 cents:

just wanted to requote this part:thumbsup
"Just like every other host, we respond to DMCAs aggressively and as much as we can filter out bad clients from good on their way through the door."

http://www.lolcatz.info/images/kingofthedead.jpg

and the dead keep it! :warning

Do you provide content to programs that cross sale and fuck the surfers over so bad they refuse to ever join a paysite again? If so that's a great business model also.

50 mb movies?

+1 :pimp

Brad, you the man for your continuous open communication! One of these days I'll make it to MojoHost :)

Spam me with ad prices on all illegal tube sites. I fucking SURRENDER! If you are my biggest affiliate, you can bitch about it.

Steve Lightspeed

Brad.... i'm sure you will do no evil. Well... not as much evil anyways :)

in the end its all about the green. To bad

I have an extra ticket in my compound for the Chargers game tonight if anyone wants to go.



Only posted this here because seems lots of folks reading it.


T wanna trade?? :)

Now take the next step:

Team up with the provider of a high quality tube script, and sell ready-made tube hosting accounts that only need a design and content.

You'll benefit from lock-in as they grow :2 cents:

Mojo keeps surprising me with their support and help, even after all this time. 11 dedicated mojo servers and we need more soon !
Keep up the good work Brad and Mojo team ! :thumbsup

Late sig spottin' :Oh crap...

you just realize that you have killed revenue stream you are counting on saving you with this statement.

The fact is big tube sites are pushing the limits of fair use, they are the ones that are extending those rights. They are counting on your to respect the process so that those rights can be properly established.

Claiming that "All of the decisions I made were with our content producing customers in mind." put you into the catagory of host that will usurp that process.

Why would any "fair use" tube site risk their entire business opperation to host with a company who declares he is against them from the very begining.

http://scienceblogs.com/startswithab...arth-vader.jpg

embrace the dark side my son :winkwink:

While i don't think hosts on GFY are great, you do have integrity. You didn't even have to make a statement like that, so props for honesty.

Props to you Brad for making the public statement... I have no doubt that when confronted with DMCA notices that werent handled by the site owners themselves, that you will no doubt step in and take appropriate action.

I am pleased to have recently become a part of the MojoHost family!!!

Sent u an email to the inquiry addy Brad.
thx

and if he doesnt?

Sellout.

good post and i think you spelled everything correctly... (looking out window to see if pigs are flying)

cliffnotes ?

you now allow customers using unlicensed content ?

Im super bummed to hear about this. I do appreciate you posting, and I knew that one day the pressure would surpass your stance but doesnt make it any easier to hear.

I just hope that you pass on the lower bandwith costs down to the non full length tube customers.

If these full length tube guys are gonna hurt our bottom dollar, then if you support it the decent thing to do is atleast make it cheaper to run OUR businesses.

Yes....he does. He does this because his competition does it. And he's afraid that if he doesn't do it, they'll get all the tube money and their businesses will grow and his won't. I guess he's finding it difficult to compete in the marketplace if he runs an honest operation over there. Sad :(

It would be like me waking up one morning and deciding that I'm going to figure out a way to rip off a bunch of programs just to fill my pockets with more money. And then coming on GFY and letting everyone know that I need to stay competitive with all the scammers in our industry so I'm willing to do business with scammers & thieves if that means more money for me. Yea, you really gotta pat the guy on the back for being so honest and letting everyone know that he's just fine with doing business with content thieves.....and taking care of their DMCA notices....on a regular basis.

As far as I know...there are only two kinds of tube sites. Legal ones and illegal ones. And Brad says that he's happy to do business with "all kinds". Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out now does it?

Brad, it's always nice to see someone's business grow & expand beyond their wildest dreams. But it's sad to see them stooping to the level of doing business with content thieves just to get the overhead paid. It would be nice if you could make money the old fashioned "honest" 'way and stay away from sites that steal from producers like myself. But if you need the money that bad to keep your business afloat, well...good luck.

Of course you're not the only company out there who sleeps with illegal tube sites. There are other hosting companies as well as billing companies who are happy to take money from illegal tube sites. The difference is that none of them are on GFY bragging that they'll be happy to do business with this kind of scum. You apparently are happy to do it and think that we should commend you for your honesty. All I can say is *wow* : (

As long as a tube site follows DMCA and takes down videos when a DMCA is recieved it's not "illegal". Like the law or not that's the fucking law. I don't like tube sites that have unlincesed content on them any more than you do , but to say they are "illegal" is simply wrong.

On another note, content producers and content brokers are the ones that are getting hurt the most in this economy. It's easy to blame it on tube sites but lets get real. 5 years ago they blamed it on MGPs. Most producers and content guys still have 1995 prices on thier content. One content guy recently posted a sale 50% off his content. $100 for a 20 minute video with 50% off that's $50. What a fucking joke. Videos are simply not worth that any more. If you want a scapegoat for the devalue of your content grab a sledge hammer, go to Best Buy and smash all those hi def camcorders that take video almost as good as a profesional camera does yet only cost $599. Anyone can make great videos today. It's real simple, there is so much good video out there that what you sold for $1000 5 years ago is only worth $25 today. Supply and demand.

Very few content guys have evolved or moved out of 1995. One exception I have noticed is Joe from Amacontent. I think the guy is a dick, but i admire him because instead of bitching and whining I see him busting his ass doing new things and trying to survive.

The fact that we are able to charge people to watch sex is amazing and not our god given right. Mainstream has used sex to sell other products since the alphabet was first invented. Many people are evolving and using porn to sell other products, there will always be a demand for new porn but not at the high prices content guys enjoyed 10 years ago.

Sorry officer...yes I did knock over that 7/11 and stole all the money in the till. But I will put it back now that you caught me. No worries? Its not illegal if you put it back is it?

hahaha true!

If it's not illegal, it's certainly immoral. As if stealing the content wasn't bad enough, now there's the hosting company who thinks it's ok to do it and he's happy to juggle the DMCA paperwork when it comes in :helpme

Are there any hosting companies out there that want to send me a hundred thousand dollars so I can produce a bunch of hardcore movies and then hand them over to the tubes to use on their sites for free? Awwww come'n guys. Nobody wants to spend a bunch of money on content and then hand it all over to the tubes? No??? Yea, that's kinda what I figured. As long as the money is not coming out of your pocket .. you're cool with it. If you had to pay for it, you would have a different viewpoint.

Immoral? You ignore my question i asked you earlier. Have you EVER sold content to a program that uses xsales or shading business practices? Most on this board consider that immoral. Have you ever sold content to a site that fools surfers into thinking it's a incredible site then they pay login and it's a joke? That's immoral too. How about all the programs that have now or are making their own tube site? You would be surprised. How many sponsor's here would turn down a link on Pornhub if he offered to you for free?

Years ago being a really good photographer was a elite group. Nowadays anyone can be a great photographer. Your occupation is a shrinking one both in terms of income and opportunitites. Yet some photographers are thriving in this new economy. They are the ones not trying to find scapegoats for thier shrinking income, they are the ones that are adopting and doing new things, not still living in 1995. You are the reason for your demise, not tube sites. And don't come back with the "things are great for me shit". If they were you wouldn't be here attacking others and blaming them for your decline.

Please stop with its best buys fault. do what you want to do but writing shit like this is insulting.

Choker, my business model is to produce high-end "elite" content that make my clients happy and keep their members happy. People hire me because of my work ethic, my skills and my ability to deliver. That my friend...is my business model. If a company wants to use xsales, that's their business model - not mine. Doing business with a company that uses xsales is far different then doing business with a company that uses stolen content for their financial gain. When was the last time you laid down a few hundred thousand dollars for content only to have it stolen and used for free by a tube site? When that happens to you - get back to me ok? Because only then will you understand what all producers in our industry are going thru. It's not surprising that you would be here honking your horn - you sell traffic to tubes. You are in bed with them, making money with them...while they steal content from legit producers all over the world. Frankly, you are no better then hosting companies who sleep with them.

That's like saying that just because you have photoshop, you can be an amazing web designer. Or just because you have guitar, you can be the next Eddie Van Halen. There will always be companies out there willing to pay more for an elite product. That is the niche that I fill. I could lower my prices and shoot anything & everything but why should I when that's what everyone else is doing?

I don't think photographers (content producers) are going anywhere. We are the backbone of the industry. Without content, you wouldn't have a fucking job. It's the content that allows you to thrive. If we die, the industry dies. You and I need each other. I produce the content, you send the traffic, everybody makes money.

The only people I'm attacking are nit-wits who think it's ok to steal content that people like me spend our time & money producing. If you don't understand that - you really have some issues brotha'. By business is down - just like everyone else's. But you don't see me doing illegal, unethical and immoral things do you?

So what exactly is your point Choker? That since the industry is down, it's ok to steal content if that's what it takes to keep your business running? And all the producers should lower their prices so the tubes will buy it instead of stealing it? WTF???

New economy? Enjoy the ride because its not going to last.