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from $24k/month to $14k/month: Goodbye paysites :-( Hello webcams :-)
After 12 years of promoting paysites, and making great money, its time for a strategy change.
My income from promoting paysites has gone from an average of $24,000/month in 2007 down to $14,000/month last month. It was a great run but the writing is on the wall... paysites are dead. Yes, sales will still trickle in but you can no longer depend on paysites for steadily increasing income like you could before. ![]() Goodbye paysites ------------------------------- Hello webcams For the foreseeable future, every link I put up on my sites/blogs/projects will be for a webcam site. If you are a webcam affiliate manager please post your ICQ# in this thread and add my ICQ #161550420. Lets get to know each other Also, if anyone has informative links/blogposts on how to promote webcams effectively please post them in this thread. thx PornHero |
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There's always something new that's selling better than your current model. It's what sells in the long run that matters.
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BIG BUCKS NOW has been helping me out.
Ive been doing cam since IFriends paid $10 for free sign-ups. Cam revenue increases over time with big jumps if you get a whale. Look for programs that pay at least 20% for life.
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$14k a month is great, but not as good as your previous numbers. I can see why you think it's dead. Still a great profit though.
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tried webcams.com?
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You're still making good profit so I'd consider diversify the niches you promote rather than drop paysites completely. Finding a great paysite that's not over saturated and in a solid niche will still make you alot of money. Hint, hint
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I just signed up for Big Bucks Now using your linkcode |
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I am an Alien from space
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Have you tried promoting any mobile stuff yet? I'm sure that this would make you some $. Hit me up on ICQ and we can talk about this and see what we can do. It sucks that your sales have dropped like that, but I'm sure that your site(s) get some mobile traffic that can help increase your earnings. I can easily have a mobile whitelabel created for you and all you would have to do is use our mobile redirect script to redirect any mobile traffic that you may get to your whitelabel. Just a thought. Not trying to spam your thread. This may not be cams, but it's a great money maker.
Just wanted to throw out another way to earn some $ since our mobile sites convert and retain great. Anyway, hit me up on ICQ when you get the chance.
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what's the best webcam program?
which kind of ads work best? |
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great to see someone is evolving instead of bitching about slow sales
![]() nice work, I give you a good luck on the webcams, hope you can get back up to $24k/mo quickly.
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I want to put my business in front of a wave rather than trying to surf a dying one. BTW, http://www.punkgrl.com looks good... I'll add it to some of my databases and see what happens. |
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I got a sweet domain and developing it with a lot of webcam stuff. Maybe we can exchange links.
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Topbucks has been great to me over the years. Kristin from Topbucks got me setup with the Topbucks mobile product just yesterday. We'll see how it does with my traffic in the next little while. I'll add u to my ICQ right now |
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![]() ![]() thanks Boss -- i figure webcams is the natural progression -- I was going to promote dating sites too but I don't want to be sending people to sites full of fake profiles. At least with webcams they get some value for their money. ![]() |
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Not everyone would describe $14K a month as 'sales trickling in'.
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cams aren't THAT much better...
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If you have Asian niche traffic. Feel free to send your traffic to our camsites.
We have a PPC + 35% Revshare campaign running. Check it out.. info in my siggy
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email me john [at] webcams.com
I will get you going with everything you need ICQ 476111 |
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Losing $10k/month in income sucks no matter what but I take it in stride. What goes up must come down. Easy come easy go. I just thank goodness I saved a shitload of cash & didnt just blow it all. ![]() I remember popping the champagne when I hit $3k/month back in 2003 so i am still grateful as hell for this business ![]() |
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Thanks for the love, Senator
PornHero, if you need any custom content, feel free to contact me and we can have some fan videos etc made for you by our cam models for your sites. |
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best cbd oil uk - Hit me up on ICQ 400607632 |
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Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites |
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yeap.. content sites have really taken a dive... time to re-think the entire business model.....
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![]() I am going to dive into the webcam business with both guns blazing. Hell in the past I've dropped serious cash on hookers and hoes for that live experience you just cant get watching a recorded video. So I can relate to the craving for the live experience you get when watching live cams. ![]() |
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PornHero have you tried dating? Lets talk
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Welcome to our world, profitable times ahead.
icq is 665-086 drop me a line any time. We have it all pps, lifetime revs, cobrands,whitelabels, two tier referral program (cam model, affiliate), 400k+ model base, most major niches covered. the list goes on.
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im not jumping ship just yet, i'm just diversifying my niches at this point. reason is, my webcams conversions are worst than paysite ones.
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I agree that webcams tend to have great payouts, but I also have had a harder time getting conversions.
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The choice is clear for me -- I want to be in a business with a product that is hard to get and satisfies a need. Webcams still have life and lots of opportunities to grow income... paysites not so much. Live porn is where the future is going: - You can watch a cute college girl finger herself and tell her to lick her finger afterwards and she does whatever you say. - Having a sexy girl watch you masturbate on YOUR webcam and tell you what she thinks as u blow ur load. - Watching a couple fuck on camera and you command what they do next. Fuck her ass, give him a deepthroat blow job, fishhook her while giving it to her doggystyle etc etc... Live porn is the next BIG thing. ![]() |
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See sig Click sig
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Hi Mickey, I'd love to get a whitelabel site set up. I just added you on ICQ. Lets chat on Monday.
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Hi PornHero,
Thanks again for a good business thread and for being frank about your numbers. It is a help and makes us all think a bit more. I came to same conclusion about cams - meaning something real the surfer can get that can't be replaced or stolen (content). Thing is ... I can't convert them. Hopefully you'll have better luck. |
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Well, how about a little bit of both paysite & cam shows, I have/do them both on my site. :-) I have been online over 10 years now and am just finally putting together my affiliate program. (Better late than never I guess - lol) I should have it 100% up and running in 1 week. Mandy
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Conversions are in the mind of the converter In order to excel in any business you have to become an expert in your chosen niche Right now I am an expert in sending search engine traffic to paysites. I will one day be an expert in sending search engine traffic to webcams. I am going to learn the ins-and-outs of the webcams business, the sites, the terminology, the business patterns, the webcam girls... I am going to immerse myself in it. Thats the only way to excel in anything. As far as conversions -- it takes getting traffic consisting of people who are already looking for webcams in the first place. I much prefer to deal with people who are already interested in webcams rather than trying to convince a surfer who was looking for something else. ![]() Like the old saying goes: Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way you are right. |
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paysites died last year.. and now webcams are dead cause everyone is promoting them.
I am in the same boat as you except 1 year ahead. |
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www.AdultCopywriters.com
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thats good money, you are my porn hero.
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anyways.. only letting ya know from my experience. |
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You're doing a hell of a lot better than me...
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14k a month is good unless of course your losing 10 k a month
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cam sites not dead. Paying my car note lol
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