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Scott McD · 08-07-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

This thread could be called "80 year old threatens police with knife".

Precisely!

SonOfaBeach · 08-07-2009, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

you are a simple minded fool... and seem incapable of nuanced thinking...

Hurray!! Here come the personal attacks...

How much more "nuanced thinking" should the police woman have done before reacting to the situation?? She was called to the scene, so obviously the public / family was in fear for their safety and / or the old lady's safety... She told the old woman several times to drop the knife... But you're saying she didn't assess the scene enough?? Didn't investigate all of the nuances of the situation??

I guess you would prefer they all just huddle around / draw up maps of the situation / call in crisis management teams etc - right??

Did you even WATCH the video?? 17 SECONDS elapsed from the time the cop first *asked* her "Ma'am, can you please put the knife down" until the time she took her down (as trained). 17 Seconds!! 30 seconds further into the video, the old woman is still fighting the cop - still holding the knife - AND - APPEARS TO EVEN REACH FOR THE COP'S GUN!!

Do you really not understand the concept of law enforcement and what the job entails?? Seriously??

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

And when this cop got her wrist, he didn't need to follow with a judo throw and crack her head..

That is precisely what they are trained to do. They are not supposed to stand toe-to-toe and wrestle a weapon away from someone. The very first move is the take down.

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

even worse... there was plenty of male cops around.. if she thought she had a real tough opponent on her hand, (75lbs of 80yo bones) just wait a few seconds until the male cops fucking arrive... How fucking dumb.. lol

Ummmm... and then what would you suggest that the male cops do differently??

DateDoc · 08-07-2009, 11:26 AM

Not the best handling of the situation but if a cop tells you to drop the knife you'd better.

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2009, 11:27 AM

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Fletch XXX · 08-07-2009, 11:28 AM

ps - i agree though, if you come at cop with weapon you will eat the floor.

ProG · 08-07-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Martin

Nice backpedal.

I didn't backpedal anything. It's a miscommunication. Thanks for yet another useless post from Martin.

dyna mo · 08-07-2009, 11:28 AM

either way, she's got a cash settlement in her future. ole lady ftw.

WarChild · 08-07-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by who

No no I also told my girlfriend how I would bash him up, so she also thinks I'm tough just like you fellows.

It'd be cute I guess watching that female cop throw you and all her male friends on the job stomp you down after.

Bird · 08-07-2009, 11:46 AM

fucked up shit, luck the crowd wasn't gansta, they would of attacked the police

brassmonkey · 08-07-2009, 11:48 AM

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Makaveli · 08-07-2009, 11:53 AM

Cops are your masters!! Obey you peon slaves.. They should have killed that good for nothing old lady. I mean she had a butter knife! She could have gave the nice officer a paper cut. She could have easily been restrained, but they need to train us slaves to be afraid of them.

baddog · 08-07-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli

Cops are your masters!! Obey you peon slaves.. They should have killed that good for nothing old lady. I mean she had a butter knife! She could have gave the nice officer a paper cut. She could have easily been restrained, but they need to train us slaves to be afraid of them.

How do you know it was a butter knife?

GeoBeo · 08-07-2009, 11:59 AM

Thats rough

Fucksakes · 08-07-2009, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Makaveli

Cops are your masters!! Obey you peon slaves.. They should have killed that good for nothing old lady. I mean she had a butter knife! She could have gave the nice officer a paper cut. She could have easily been restrained, but they need to train us slaves to be afraid of them.

Bet you wont be waving any kind of knife around after seeing what they will do even to a "harmless" old lady with a butter knife.

BestXXXPorn · 08-07-2009, 12:05 PM

I personally agree with any amount of force (non lethal) if someone has a weapon and refuses to drop it. I don't care how old they are.

dyna mo · 08-07-2009, 12:06 PM

at what age are people waving a knife at the PO-lice no longer considered a threat?

billyb · 08-07-2009, 12:08 PM

This was an unforunate event, I have no idea what was going through the womens head. She was 80, she could of been senile?, or hard of hearing?. Or just does not trust the police?, you never know.

She should of dropped the knife and listend to the police, but if anybody thinks that she was of great danger to herself, or the police then we are seeing two different things here.
This happend here a few years ago, where the police shot a homeless women with a screw driver in her hand.

To me what is going on is the police have lowered the standard of who they hire now. You use to have to be 6'0" plus and weigh a certain weight. They dropped all of that because women could not become police.

Just listen to the police and you won't get slammed, well sometimes you will

.

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by billyb

To me what is going on is the police have lowered the standard of who they hire now.

its like the military, cops have criminal backgrounds now and still get hired. and the percentage of new recruits (soldiers) with criminal background is increasing as the years go by, its a numbers game.

local news: cops took a guy, shot him, dumped body in car, then *drum roll please*

... dumped it behind the police station and set car on fire. FBI has had to step in because the higher ups haulted any investigation into the murder for years LOL

in a fairy tale world cops are here to protect, not in the real world.

http://www.nola.com/news/?/base/news...390.xml&coll=1

I lived where they dumped his body

kmanrox · 08-07-2009, 12:12 PM

she is lucky she didn't get shot up by multiple cops... she's also lucky she didn't slip and fall on that knife...

baddog · 08-07-2009, 12:13 PM

Big surprise. Corruption in New Orleans. Who would have thunk it?

SonOfaBeach · 08-07-2009, 12:14 PM

A bit more than a butter knife, she had reportedly "hit some kids", she was threatening to "cut people" - and she had already cut herself with the knife.

Yes, she has Alzheimer's, yes she's 80+, but the cop was in a no win situation and followed her training and procedures.

Why isn't anyone in an uproar about the FAMILY / daughter of this Alzheimer's patient who left her locked in the car in a Walmart parking lot???

Link

billyb · 08-07-2009, 12:15 PM

Yeah, you have it bad in Louisiana, the cops left everybody high and dry during hurricane Katrina. We need the police, but as an arm chair quarterback now. This could of been handeld much better.

SonOfaBeach · 08-07-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by billyb

but if anybody thinks that she was of great danger to herself, or the police then we are seeing two different things here.

She had already (reportedly) hit some kids, threatened other people in the parking lot, and had cut herself... And it sure looks like she was grabbing for the cop's gun when she was on the ground (IMO).

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Originally Posted by billyb

Just listen to the police and you won't get slammed, well sometimes you will

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Fletch XXX · 08-07-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Big surprise. Corruption in New Orleans. Who would have thunk it?

every single police dept in america has corrupt cops, and if we were to compare NOPD to LAPD, I am sure LAPD corruption outnumbers even that of these notorious cops down here ;)

billyb · 08-07-2009, 12:20 PM

Yeah you have it bad in Louisana, the police left everybody high and dry during hurricane Katrina. My arm chair quarterbacking tell me this did not have to happen. We need to have better training and get more quailified canidates.

I respect the police, they have to deal with so much shit!, but this is what they are trained to do. If they can't handel an 80 year old women with a knife?, how the hell would they handel a real threat?.

baddog · 08-07-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

every single police dept in america has corrupt cops,

Really? And how do you plan on proving that is anywhere close to being true?

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2009, 12:23 PM

never forget, the cops DISARMED citizens for katina, they will take your guns and declare marshall law and that is how its done.

they never even returned the guns they confiscated, its been big news, but people who think cops are their friends, never been in a marshall law situation.

when evacuation orders come, cops will kick your face in for not "keep moving"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34430006732400

Fletch XXX · 08-07-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Really? And how do you plan on proving that is anywhere close to being true?

i have no desire to argue with you

2012 · 08-07-2009, 12:27 PM

dyna mo · 08-07-2009, 12:30 PM

y'all talk like corrupt cops are something new.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-07-2009, 12:39 PM

bitch should have thought twice before she was born black...

brassmonkey · 08-07-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Really? And how do you plan on proving that is anywhere close to being true?

a biker that likes police

baddog · 08-07-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

a biker that likes police

Unlike you (apparently), I do not judge people simply by their occupation.

xxxdesign-net · 08-07-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach

Hurray!! Here come the personal attacks...

How much more "nuanced thinking" should the police woman have done before reacting to the situation?? She was called to the scene, so obviously the public / family was in fear for their safety and / or the old lady's safety... She told the old woman several times to drop the knife... But you're saying she didn't assess the scene enough?? Didn't investigate all of the nuances of the situation??

I guess you would prefer they all just huddle around / draw up maps of the situation / call in crisis management teams etc - right??

Assess the situation? It's not that complicated really.... You first realize it's a 80yo slow moving granny walking with a cane... brandishing a small knife... obviously confused, most certainly suffering from senility or alzheimer... so she obviously doesn't "deserve" anything... No one around her.. not a danger to anyone since the cops arrived.. there's no hurry... must try to find a safe way to get the knife out of her hand before smashing her head on the pavement and nearly killing her...

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AND - APPEARS TO EVEN REACH FOR THE COP'S GUN!!

you are delirious...

SmokeyTheBear · 08-07-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Really? And how do you plan on proving that is anywhere close to being true?

I cant think of any position of authority that doesn't get abused. Can he prove that every police dept. has corrupt cops ? no , he doesn't need to its common sense.

SmokeyTheBear · 08-07-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Unlike you (apparently), I do not judge people simply by their occupation.

bullshit.. everyone does. Some people just lie about it and some people don't.

Tom_PM · 08-07-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach

A bit more than a butter knife, she had reportedly "hit some kids", she was threatening to "cut people" - and she had already cut herself with the knife.

Yes, she has Alzheimer's, yes she's 80+, but the cop was in a no win situation and followed her training and procedures.

Why isn't anyone in an uproar about the FAMILY / daughter of this Alzheimer's patient who left her locked in the car in a Walmart parking lot???

Link

People should watch this video before commenting I think. Take a look at that butterknife! Take a listen to the "witness" who said the cop never asked her to drop it, she just charged in and knocked her down. Amazing how we rely on witnesses and they suck so very very badly.

oh well, shit happens.

SonOfaBeach · 08-07-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

Assess the situation? It's not that complicated really.... You first realize it's a 80yo slow moving granny walking with a cane... brandishing a small knife... obviously confused, most certainly suffering from senility or alzheimer... so she obviously doesn't "deserve" anything... No one around her.. not a danger to anyone since the cops arrived.. there's no hurry... must try to find a safe way to get the knife out of her hand before smashing her head on the pavement and nearly killing her... you are delirious...

Apparently you approve of these tactics instead, right?? After all, the old coot is 72... he can't possibly be a threat can he?? I mean - just cuz he's not following the instructions of the cop, we wouldn't want the cop to get too aggressive and shoot this poor confused old man - right???

BTW - that lovely "snoring" sound in the background is the cop slowly dying - choking on his own blood... but yeah - crazy old people are never a threat....

As a bonus - pay attention to the other cops that show up after - and STILL 'ignore' the old geezer with a gun!!

And you really wonder why they are trained the way they are??

08-07-2009, 02:42 PM

boo fucking hoo.

buildingblocks · 08-07-2009, 02:46 PM

Wow...crazy stuff.

baddog · 08-07-2009, 02:51 PM

They should have dusted that punk.

08-07-2009, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

They should have dusted that punk.

Thats what im sayin

xxxdesign-net · 08-07-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach

Apparently you approve of these tactics instead, right?? After all, the old coot is 72... he can't possibly be a threat can he?? I mean - just cuz he's not following the instructions of the cop, we wouldn't want the cop to get too aggressive and shoot this poor confused old man - right???

BTW - that lovely "snoring" sound in the background is the cop slowly dying - choking on his own blood... but yeah - crazy old people are never a threat....

As a bonus - pay attention to the other cops that show up after - and STILL 'ignore' the old geezer with a gun!!

And you really wonder why they are trained the way they are??

it's laughable that you would compare those 2 very different situations... as I said in an earlier post, nuances seem to elude you... it's either black or white with you... Enjoy arguing with someone else now... I'm out

SmokenCess · 08-07-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat

bitch should have thought twice before she was born black...

You seem angry about blacks

Did a black man Steal your girlfriend? Mother? Job? bike? by any chance?

Please share your black people stories with me when you can. Im fucken intrigued man.

tonyparra · 08-07-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach

Apparently you approve of these tactics instead, right?? After all, the old coot is 72... he can't possibly be a threat can he?? I mean - just cuz he's not following the instructions of the cop, we wouldn't want the cop to get too aggressive and shoot this poor confused old man - right???

BTW - that lovely "snoring" sound in the background is the cop slowly dying - choking on his own blood... but yeah - crazy old people are never a threat....

As a bonus - pay attention to the other cops that show up after - and STILL 'ignore' the old geezer with a gun!!

And you really wonder why they are trained the way they are??

They ignored him cus he is a old white man if he was black he would be pumped full of lead.

brassmonkey · 08-07-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SonOfaBeach

Apparently you approve of these tactics instead, right?? After all, the old coot is 72... he can't possibly be a threat can he?? I mean - just cuz he's not following the instructions of the cop, we wouldn't want the cop to get too aggressive and shoot this poor confused old man - right???

BTW - that lovely "snoring" sound in the background is the cop slowly dying - choking on his own blood... but yeah - crazy old people are never a threat....

As a bonus - pay attention to the other cops that show up after - and STILL 'ignore' the old geezer with a gun!!

And you really wonder why they are trained the way they are??

put his ass 2 sleep

kristin · 08-07-2009, 03:20 PM

Cameraman should be fired.

tonyparra · 08-07-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

People should watch this video before commenting I think. Take a look at that butterknife! Take a listen to the "witness" who said the cop never asked her to drop it, she just charged in and knocked her down. Amazing how we rely on witnesses and they suck so very very badly.

oh well, shit happens.

She may die from her injuries if they are serious enough.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 08-07-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokenCess

You seem angry about blacks

Did a black man Steal your girlfriend? Mother? Job? bike? by any chance?

Please share your black people stories with me when you can. Im fucken intrigued man.

Where do I start?

a. you're a fucking retard.
b. you're a fucking retard.
c. you're a fucking retard.

baddog · 08-07-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyparra

She may die from her injuries if they are serious enough.

May and if?

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