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49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:15 PM

Well boys, enjoy the circle jerk...

I am obviously outwitted by a person who built a fortune in the "financial" arena. Is this like saying you are in the "entertainment " business..when you sell popcorn at the local theater.

Sorry mate, but you don't talk the talk...Like I said earlier, you don't just make it in the mainstream world and then jump into the adult biz and forget it all. You don't have it...you simply don't have what it takes...thank god for porn...

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:22 PM

Well this was quite an entertaining thread... Good job guys :)

http://www.inicient.com/hassle.jpg

xxxcam 12-04-2002 10:23 PM

can 49thParallel and quet both shuttup already >? and let people post usefull info not some bullshit you can disscuss over icq or whatever privately...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


this thread was started on the premise of paysite owners. and in terms of paysite owners, the answer is YES.


I took that to mean this


just cause paysites owners were mentioned first doesn't mean that was the reason the thread was created.


ok, I think we have a misunderstanding here.
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Originally posted by quiet
the thread was started on that premise. absolutely it was. other premises were added, but that was the starting premise.


I think it all boils down to what you meant by the term "started". If you meant it to be the begining of the thread then you are right.

I took it to mean that the thread was "created"(started) on the premise of paysite owners and took offense to it.

is that the situation or did I miss something?

quiet 12-04-2002 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by xxxcam
can 49thParallel and quet both shuttup already >? and let people post usefull info not some bullshit you can disscuss over icq or whatever privately...
i've posted more useful, practical information than anyone else in this thread...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
thank god for porn...
yep - thank God for porn. Too bad you're not in it.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


i always laugh when fools correct my spelling with spelling mistakes of their own......... it always amazed me how stupid the stupid can get.

Sad, very sad.

Oh, and not one to point out your obvious intellectual flaws, but.... this statement "My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon... " was actually intended to illustrate how YOU might talk...and was not a sloppy demonstration of my understanding of the English language.

Oh damn, I must remember the first rule of advertising..."know your audience"...so here we go, in simple terms that you can comprehend...
food...good..yum

Enjoy your evening, whiz kid....

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


i've posted more useful, practical information than anyone else in this thread...

X582 may have something to say about that. :P

on this topic in gfy you've posted more useful practical information than ANYONE else without a doubt though.

quiet 12-04-2002 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
I think it all boils down to what you meant by the term "started". If you meant it to be the begining of the thread then you are right.
agreed. that is all i meant. 49 said my posts were 'pointless' so i brought up the fact that the starting premise in the initial post was directed at paysite owners.

no where did i say anything about afflilates.

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I took it to mean that the thread was "created"(started) on the premise of paysite owners and took offense to it.

is that the situation or did I miss something? [/B]
you missed something. i was stating my views from the paysite perspective. 49 said i should shut up. i responded by quoting the initial premise of the thread.

that's it :)

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Oh, and not one to point out your obvious intellectual flaws, but.... this statement "My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon... " was actually intended to illustrate how YOU might talk...and was not a sloppy demonstration of my understanding of the English language.

Oh damn, I must remember the first rule of advertising..."know your audience"...so here we go, in simple terms that you can comprehend...
food...good..yum

Enjoy your evening, whiz kid....

Can someone tell me what's his point?

Does he want to say that Sleazy is nothing cause he doesn't make as much money in mainstream biz as him?

:helpme

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


you missed something. i was stating my views from the paysite perspective. 49 said i should shut up. i responded by quoting the initial premise of the thread.

that's it :)

Nay, you made a post right after mine to question the validity of my comments...this I took exception to...and yes, that post was pointless...and yes, I did tell you in my own colorful language to shut up...on that you are correct...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


you missed something. i was stating my views from the paysite perspective. 49 said i should shut up. i responded by quoting the initial premise of the thread.

that's it :)

You know that I have NEVER said you posts were pointless. I agree that 49th is a complete idiot.

You also know I've been looking for something to agrue with you about for some time now. :) It no fun to all dance together in harmony around the fire every night.

Too bad it was a God damn terminology miscommunication.

I was really hoping you were going to jump in on that low profile/stardome thread i started about you a few weeks back.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nay, you made a post right after mine to question the validity of my comments...this I took exception to...and yes, that post was pointless...and yes, I did tell you in my own colorful language to shut up...on that you are correct...

Quiet was right to question your validity. It is questionable.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay[neX]


Can someone tell me what's his point?

Does he want to say that Sleazy is nothing cause he doesn't make as much money in mainstream biz as him?

:helpme

And my point to this...Sleazy attempted to call me a fool long before I took a personal swing at him...so, a rebuttal from me to him was warranted...and yes, I still think he is a fool...

shann 12-04-2002 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


I've gone many times to porn conventions on business in the USA. I always tell the border guards the truth, and they always let me go. One even knew my site and had me sign one of my businss cards for him.


what they are cocerned about is ifyou are making money in the usa - when I tell them I'm buying for work and not generating any revenue while in the USA they let me in easily. If you say you are going to make money in the USA you will have LOTS of problems. they always want to to come in and buy stuff though.

Thanks for the help Sleazy Dream, i have a few other questions if you don't mind my asking, not exactly fitting this forum, my icq is 52624206. I'd love to share some thoughts on this with you to get me across the boarder next time! :)

quiet 12-04-2002 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
I was really hoping you were going to jump in on that low profile/stardome thread i started about you a few weeks back.
i never post in threads started about me.

but i am still low profile. i don't put my sites or business in anyone's face each day, like so many high profilers do. 99% of anything i talk about here has nothing to do with business.

i'm soooo glad i don't deal with affliliates :)

quiet 12-04-2002 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nay, you made a post right after mine to question the validity of my comments...this I took exception to...and yes, that post was pointless...and yes, I did tell you in my own colorful language to shut up...on that you are correct...

you are a joke.

you know nothing of this business, that is obvious.

you say you run a large accounting firm? yet you don't understand gst? riiiight.

keep dreaming lol.

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:40 PM

Please keep going guys, my pizza just got here.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet




i'm soooo glad i don't deal with affliliates :)

I hear ya there, it's why I don't take gallery submissions on sleazydream.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


you are a joke.

you know nothing of this business, that is obvious.

you say you run a large accounting firm? yet you don't understand gst? riiiight.

keep dreaming lol.

Nope, wrong again...an advertising firm..accounting was Sleazy...and yes, I do understand GST...but the amazing thing is, I know the law...and have never thought I was exempt from the laws that affected ALL other Canadian businesses..so, strange, but I have never had any issues with Rev Can..except for the normal luck of the draw audits...which have all been nuisances...but no surprises.

You, on the other hand, as I illustrated on another post, have made your own bed by skirting the law for 6 years...suck it up Princess...the Piper is a calling. You chose to not voluntarily comply to the laws...Rev Can will help you comply...but you already know that, don't you...

quiet 12-04-2002 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nope, wrong again...an advertising firm..accounting was Sleazy...and yes, I do understand GST...but the amazing thing is, I know the law...and have never thought I was exempt from the laws that affected ALL other Canadian businesses..so, strange, but I have never had any issues with Rev Can..except for the normal luck of the draw audits...which have all been nuisances...but no surprises.

You, on the other hand, as I illustrated on another post, have made your own bed by skirting the law for 6 years...suck it up Princess...the Piper is a calling. You chose to not voluntarily comply to the laws...Rev Can will help you comply...but you already know that, don't you...

the true sign of professionalism. giving out advice when you don't know your ass from your head:

Quote:

My advice to other Canadian paysite owners...set up a separate link for Canadian subscribers...
-include the 7% gst in the price, so that you remain competitive with your US counterparts. Yes, you take a 7% hit, but 7% on Canadian and not all sales.
-Make sure your GST number is clearly displayed on the page, as required by law
-Keep accurate books.
-Submit on time every quarter

I am not a accountant or a lawyer, but I have been around the block with Revenue Canada for more years then some of you out there have likely been alive...so I have a pretty firm grip on their expectations.
you'll never be anything sunshine. you never had a hope. and now that you've realized it, you're bitter. it's okay, many have been through the same :)

i hear lovematch is holding another 50 buck 20K image sale. better jump on that... ahahaha.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nope, wrong again...an advertising firm..accounting was Sleazy...and yes, I do understand GST...but the amazing thing is, I know the law...and have never thought I was exempt from the laws that affected ALL other Canadian businesses..so, strange, but I have never had any issues with Rev Can..except for the normal luck of the draw audits...which have all been nuisances...but no surprises.

You, on the other hand, as I illustrated on another post, have made your own bed by skirting the law for 6 years...suck it up Princess...the Piper is a calling. You chose to not voluntarily comply to the laws...Rev Can will help you comply...but you already know that, don't you...

when did I EVER say i was in accounting? Please point that out. another strong sign that you are a fool.

noone KNOWS the law. any good lawyer will tell you that - another sign that you are a fool.

I had my advisors review Quiets GST appeal, he wasn't skirting the law in any way, shape, form, or fassion. - another sign you are a fool.


soo many signs point to the fact that you're a fool. Guess that means you're a fool. Period.

xxxcam 12-04-2002 10:59 PM

i know what's going on

sleazydream,quet and 49parallel are playing this game to win dvd :Graucho

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


you'll never be anything sunshine. you never had a hope. and now that you've realized it, you're bitter. it's okay, many have been through the same :)

i hear lovematch is holding another 50 buck 20K image sale. better jump on that... ahahaha.

Thank you for pointing out my failure...you are right...everything in my posts would certainly indicate that i have failed...

And thank you for once again pointing out that I do know what I am talking about....with sound business advice that has worked for me and ... let's see, 99% of the other businesses in Canada...

But, who am I talking to,...oh yes, the fella that has paid Rev Can $600,000 in 6 years...hmmm. I see what you mean...you certainly do demonstrate superior business planning and outstanding tax knowledge ...

And thanks for the Lovematch offer, but I hear he is out of business..but should you offer up one of your sites for a similar price...I am open to negotiation...

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


when did I EVER say i was in accounting? Please point that out. another strong sign that you are a fool.

noone KNOWS the law. any good lawyer will tell you that - another sign that you are a fool.

I had my advisors review Quiets GST appeal, he wasn't skirting the law in any way, shape, form, or fassion. - another sign you are a fool.


soo many signs point to the fact that you're a fool. Guess that means you're a fool. Period.

Oh, I am sorry...a "financial" firm...please explain...

And come on, this is getting weak..Quiet did not charge Canadian customers GST...unless every single one of his clients was a treaty indian (with permit numbers and signatures to back up the claims)...this is skirting the law...everyone know this....

quiet 12-04-2002 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
But, who am I talking to,...oh yes, the fella that has paid Rev Can $600,000 in 6 years...hmmm. I see what you mean...you certainly do demonstrate superior business planning and outstanding tax knowledge ...
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you are so stupid, it's truly mind-blowing.

600K gst. you know, the 7 percent tax thing. and that was a year ago. so now it's been 7 years. nothing to do with income tax. fuck you are stupid.

now, tell us more about you non-existant advertising company.

:glugglug

you must be a huge success, coming into adult and going to the lowest whore (50 bucks for 20K images). then balling you eyes out when you got ripped off (did i mention you were an idiot?).

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


Thank you for pointing out my failure...you are right...everything in my posts would certainly indicate that i have failed...

And thank you for once again pointing out that I do know what I am talking about....with sound business advice that has worked for me and ... let's see, 99% of the other businesses in Canada...

But, who am I talking to,...oh yes, the fella that has paid Rev Can $600,000 in 6 years...hmmm. I see what you mean...you certainly do demonstrate superior business planning and outstanding tax knowledge ...

And thanks for the Lovematch offer, but I hear he is out of business..but should you offer up one of your sites for a similar price...I am open to negotiation...

where are you pulling all this info from? your ass is the most likely sourse.

Quiet paid more than $600k to the GST office alone - not even counting the income tax he's paid.

solid business advise still accounts for the VAST majority of new businesses ending their first year in total financial ruin.


Are you high?

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:08 PM

And really....work on that spelling and grammar for god's sake...

Translation...grr...grunt...grunt..grrr...I am a financial mogul...grunt grunt...you shiny..me like

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:11 PM

Why do I bother...GST...goods and sales TAX...oh, look, it is a tax..it must be, it has the word tax in it

...you skirted the tax by not having the intelligence to realize that ALL Canadians must pay GST on goods and services, hence the name Goods and Services Tax. In the eyes of CCRA and in mine, you purposely tried to evade the legal requirement to collect GST on Canadian purchases....get it now..whiz kid(s)

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


Oh, I am sorry...a "financial" firm...please explain...

And come on, this is getting weak..Quiet did not charge Canadian customers GST...unless every single one of his clients was a treaty indian (with permit numbers and signatures to back up the claims)...this is skirting the law...everyone know this....

Quiet had sound and legitmate financial advise not to charge GST - the same top level professional advise that was also given to much larger sites like Gammae for example.

One good point though, knowing most native reserves 99% of Quiet's Canadian clients WERE probally treaty indians, or at least 99% of the Canadian clients that got charged back for fraud credit cards.

I owned my own brokerage company (with a partner) for investments and insurance. I wasn't no bean counter. I was and am a salesman.

quiet 12-04-2002 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel
Why do I bother...GST...goods and sales TAX...oh, look, it is a tax..it must be, it has the word tax in it

...you skirted the tax by not having the intelligence to realize that ALL Canadians must pay GST on goods and services, hence the name Goods and Services Tax. In the eyes of CCRA and in mine, you purposely tried to evade the legal requirement to collect GST on Canadian purchases....get it now..whiz kid(s)

how does it feel, to be such a failure? especially at your age (you've hinted you are quite old).

to try to break into adult, after your other (obvious) failures.... it must be hard.

i feel sorry for you. and i understand why you are so bitter.

the whole dirty old surfer turned webmaster didn't work out, did it?

:glugglug

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


where are you pulling all this info from? your ass is the most likely sourse.

Quiet paid more than $600k to the GST office alone - not even counting the income tax he's paid.

solid business advise still accounts for the VAST majority of new businesses ending their first year in total financial ruin.


Are you high?

And on an ending note...at least if "solid design advise" accounts for the vast majority of TGP business failures..blah, blah blah...then you have nothing to worry about... again, sorry, but I call it as I see it...only in this industry would the complete amateurish design and lack of any sort of marketing skills still allow a site to succeed...ah, the human hormones have no taste....

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


And on an ending note...at least if "solid design advise" accounts for the vast majority of TGP business failures..blah, blah blah...then you have nothing to worry about... again, sorry, but I call it as I see it...only in this industry would the complete amateurish design and lack of any sort of marketing skills still allow a site to succeed...ah, the human hormones have no taste....

I think that Sleazy's site is great. His design makes the surfer bookmark, and it's all that counts.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


how does it feel, to be such a failure? especially at your age (you've hinted you are quite old).

to try to break into adult, after your other (obvious) failures.... it must be hard.

i feel sorry for you. and i understand why you are so bitter.

the whole dirty old surfer turned webmaster didn't work out, did it?

:glugglug

Once again...give me something to work with...my observations are based on facts that you have supplied...you are into Rev Can for $600,000 on GST, due to lack of business planning...that we know....

The stuff you are throwing at me is pure whimsical on your end...with absolutely nothing to back it up...

That's it...I need somethign more stimulating to end my evening..to bad all of the neighborhood slugs are already frozen to the front step...at this point, they would surely provoke a more grounded conversation...

Night night... and give my love to CCRA...remind me again...why have you paid them $600,000 in GST..oh, right...because you thought you were exempt from charging GST, just like everyone else. (Hmm, can you see the problem with that statement)

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


And on an ending note...at least if "solid design advise" accounts for the vast majority of TGP business failures..blah, blah blah...then you have nothing to worry about... again, sorry, but I call it as I see it...only in this industry would the complete amateurish design and lack of any sort of marketing skills still allow a site to succeed...ah, the human hormones have no taste....


yes, sleazydream is a complete failure. so are Quiet's sites. we must all bow down to the superior wisdom and knowledge of this NEWBIE who obviousy knows EVERYTHING. Please tell us more ohhh enlightened one. We must discontinue what we've been doing (porfitably) for years and follow any advise that might instantly pop into your head.
Tell us more, oh please tell us more. You know soo much.



I'm willing to bet this fool is younger than we are Quiet.

quiet 12-04-2002 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


Once again...give me something to work with...my observations are based on facts that you have supplied...you are into Rev Can for $600,000 on GST, due to lack of business planning...that we know....

The stuff you are throwing at me is pure whimsical on your end...with absolutely nothing to back it up...

That's it...I need somethign more stimulating to end my evening..to bad all of the neighborhood slugs are already frozen to the front step...at this point, they would surely provoke a more grounded conversation...

Night night... and give my love to CCRA...remind me again...why have you paid them $600,000 in GST..oh, right...because you thought you were exempt from charging GST, just like everyone else. (Hmm, can you see the problem with that statement)

so bitter. i can post stats. can you? lol. what happened to your big advertising business?

i'm glad you did not even bother denying your failures - it would have been even more pathetic.

this is so much fun :glugglug

going to go now? you've been saying that for the past couple hours. translation = i am a failure, and it hurts.

quiet 12-04-2002 11:27 PM


49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream



yes, sleazydream is a complete failure. so are Quiet's sites. we must all bow down to the superior wisdom and knowledge of this NEWBIE who obviousy knows EVERYTHING. Please tell us more ohhh enlightened one. We must discontinue what we've been doing (porfitably) for years and follow any advise that might instantly pop into your head.
Tell us more, oh please tell us more. You know soo much.



I'm willing to bet this fool is younger than we are Quiet.

So pick a side for god's sake..which is it...is it bad to be young or is it bad to be old...you guys are so confusing....

And, in case the adult biz doesn't pan out for you...please work on that spelling:

porfitably - WRONG
advise - WRONG

L0stMind 12-04-2002 11:31 PM

I am pretty young and my company made an excellent profit this year - but I aint posting a T4 for you fuckers :)

This thread is fun too.. let me add a few lines....

We have been submitting GST on our canadian clients (we are in hosting) and we have fully detailed info on each client we host. Address, business #'s and all that joyous shit.

We were originally informed by KPMG's commodity dept. over two years ago that we would not have to pay GST on any international clients we were hosting.

Now we are told (by rev can, ccra, gst dept, whatever they call themselves - I have been drinking a bit) we MAY have to pay GST on these sales, because when someone from the USA comes to Canada they pay GST on their purchases here and fill out some form at the border to get refunded for the GST..

Apparently, our international clients can also do this somehow.. although the details havent been fully disclosed to us yet (we also arent officially in an audit, but our last two GST refund claims have been held) but thanks to a very nice GST employee we are aware that we will be audited soon.

It is his opinion that we will have to pay retroactive GST on every sale we have ever made.... because we are obligated to charge GST on every sale and our client is obligated to fill out a form and claim a refund if they dont want to pay GST. It is also the GST employee's understanding that this new crackdown is only a money grab by Rev Can... and that many of us have been misled by previously vague GST reg's regarding internet biz...

Now, go back to bashing each other and braggin about how big your dicks are :)

quiet 12-04-2002 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by L0stMind
I am pretty young and my company made an excellent profit this year - but I aint posting a T4 for you fuckers :)

This thread is fun too.. let me add a few lines....

We have been submitting GST on our canadian clients (we are in hosting) and we have fully detailed info on each client we host. Address, business #'s and all that joyous shit.

We were originally informed by KPMG's commodity dept. over two years ago that we would not have to pay GST on any international clients we were hosting.

Now we are told (by rev can, ccra, gst dept, whatever they call themselves - I have been drinking a bit) we MAY have to pay GST on these sales, because when someone from the USA comes to Canada they pay GST on their purchases here and fill out some form at the border to get refunded for the GST..

Apparently, our international clients can also do this somehow.. although the details havent been fully disclosed to us yet (we also arent officially in an audit, but our last two GST refund claims have been held) but thanks to a very nice GST employee we are aware that we will be audited soon.

It is his opinion that we will have to pay retroactive GST on every sale we have ever made.... because we are obligated to charge GST on every sale and our client is obligated to fill out a form and claim a refund if they dont want to pay GST. It is also the GST employee's understanding that this new crackdown is only a money grab by Rev Can... and that many of us have been misled by previously vague GST reg's regarding internet biz...

Now, go back to bashing each other and braggin about how big your dicks are :)

in 49's translation - hahaha. you tried to fuck ccra, and now you're paying the piper.


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