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x582 12-04-2002 07:25 PM

Quiet, you've been through rough times I am sure. I am also personally fighting with RevCan and going thru all this shit as we speak. They can be a real pain in the ass, it's not even funny.

Bottom line, we all agree to the following:

1. We HAVE TO charge GST (7%) on every sales we made to our paysites.

2. Affiliate income is GSTable with other Canadian Affiliate Program who are registered for GST. (Gammacash, PlatinumBucks, Python, etc...)

--

We are dealing with one of the largest accounting firm in the world, and we are dealing with senior managers and partners of this firm. Our informations are very accurate and I am telling you that this is very scary.

I can also tell you that there is a "list" in CCRA's hands. This list contains companies and individuals who were previously audited by the CCRA and felt into that "intangible - zero rated" section.

These folks on that list will get audited anytime soon and it will hurt bad. I am just thinking about some companies like GammaCash... this is not funny.

We CAN'T run from this tax law - and we have to pay.

But

We can certainly try to find solutions for the future and this is what we've been doing for the past months with our accounting firm and our lawyers.

quiet 12-04-2002 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by x582
I can also tell you that there is a "list" in the CCRA hands. This list contains some people who were previously audited by the CCRA and felt into that "intangible - zero rated" section.

These people on that list will get audited anytime soon and it will hurt bad. I am just thinking about some companies like GammaCash - whoa... this is not funny.
can you please expand on this 'list'? do you have any more details?

x582 12-04-2002 07:30 PM

Contact me on ICQ

quiet 12-04-2002 07:31 PM


x582 12-04-2002 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


no icq. info at ultra-sites dot com

check your mail

quiet 12-04-2002 07:37 PM

...

x582 12-04-2002 07:56 PM

Did you get my emails?

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 08:31 PM

just for interest sake, my Ca (who also works for a large firm) in conjunction with the law firm I use confirmed everything Quiet is saying in this thread and basically pooped their pants when they read about it in disbelief. It's all true. A friend of mine who runs a large paysite in Canada also did some research into it and confirmed it all as well. This is VERY scarry stuff. Anyone who doubts Quiet on this really doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.



Quiet, sorry, i went out for dinner and didn't get back till now. You know I've been wanting an arguement with you for a long time, I expected more than a GFY answer. Soo much potential wasted.......I was very disappointed. :(

quiet 12-04-2002 08:33 PM

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Quiet, sorry, i went out for dinner and didn't get back till now. You know I've been wanting an arguement with you for a long time, I expected more than a GFY answer. Soo much potential wasted.......I was very disappointed. :(
gfy answer? clearly i've argued my point very well...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


gfy answer? clearly i've argued my point very well...

"maybe we should back out another level. past the title of the thread - and to the title of the website (gofuckyourself.com)."


Daymare 12-04-2002 08:47 PM

Good thing I don't own a paysite... paying 7% on years of earnings would kill me.

quiet 12-04-2002 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
full quote from me:

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this is the first you mentioned anything about the title. so now it comes to definitely terms.

by 'this thread was started' - i mean the words written *in* the thread.

maybe we should back out another level. past the title of the thread - and to the title of the website (gofuckyourself.com).
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you did not mention titles until this point. like i said, if you interprete 'this thread was started' - to mean the title as premise, then we have a mis-understanding of terms.

- bringing the arguement down to the level of definitions -

by 'this thread was started' - i mean the words written *in* the thread.

we argued until your final defense was the TITLE. certainly, *including* the title - we are both wrong. but back out of the thread to the title, we could also back out of the title to the website. a slippery slope...

again, i never assumed the title as premise - and it appears you didn't either, until your very last attempt.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


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you did not mention titles until this point. like i said, if you interprete 'this thread was started' - to mean the title as premise, then we have a mis-understanding of terms.

-bringing the arguement down to the level of definitions-

by 'this thread was started' - i mean the words written *in* the thread.

we argued until your final defense was the TITLE. certainly, *including* the title - we are both wrong. but back out of the thread to the title, we could also back out of the title to the website. a slippery slope...

again, i never assumed the title as premise - and it appears you didn't either, until your very last attempt.


i mentioned the title cause you kept saying "the thread was started, the thread was started" why not start at the start of the thread then??? - I figgured the title would be relevant as it's contained within the same page the thread is on , it's the first thing about the thread you read on the thread's own URL.

To be honest I don't see how you could back out of the title to the website? the title is contained within the thread - backing out to the website would be allow anything to be correct and would be about as relevant as saying the entire world wide web is relevant to this particular thread.

quiet 12-04-2002 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
i mentioned the title cause you kept saying "the thread was started, the thread was started" why not start at the start of the thread then??? - I figgured the title would be relevant as it's contained within the same page the thread is on , it's the first thing about the thread you read on the thread's own URL.
if that were true, we'd both be wrong. a title certainly does not (especially on gfy) always give much hint to the premise(s) and possible conclusion lying within the thread.

in the same way the title gofuckyourself.com does not always give you much hint to the arguments held inside this message board.

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To be honest I don't see how you could back out of the title to the website? the title is contained within the thread - backing out to the website would be allow anything to be correct and would be about as relevant as saying the entire world wide web is relevant to this particular thread.
exactly my point. simply looking at the titles of threads: in many cases (on gfy) the title gives little to no hint of the premises(s) and/or possible conclusion lying within the thread.

anyway, a friend just bought me some crown royal special reserve. never had it before. very good stuff. it's not made in Gimley is it? :glugglug

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


exactly my point. simply looking at the titles of threads: in many cases (on gfy) the title gives little to no hint of the premises(s) and/or possible conclusion lying within the thread.

anyway, a friend just bought me some crown royal special reserve. never had it before. very good stuff. it's not made in Gimley is it? :glugglug

no idea on the special reserve? I dont' drink enough to remember. i think it was crown, 87 and five star that come out of Gimli, but they are all shipped to and bottled in ontario now I believe. ( the older or special crowns are just aged in oak barrels longer from what i understand). Wat pisses me off the most is that i can buy the stuff cheaper in north dakota than in my own back yard where it's made.

anyway - to sum up my point was you said "the premise" of the thread was pertaining to paysites and I disagreed with that, saying that wasn't the "the" premise, although certainly one of the premises, it wasn't "the" premise in my opinion.


It's foolish to disagree with me when you obviously know I'm right.

:P

49thParallel 12-04-2002 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
Anyone who doubts Quiet on this really doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.
. :(

Sleazy...oh master of design and advertising excellence...yes I have visited your site...and yes I mean the preceding in a sarcastic manner...

I assume that perhaps it is I that you refer to in the above quote. Please share your wisdom, oh wise one. I await the words of wisdom from such a fella as you..(sorry, being sarcastic once again)...truth be known, I really don't expect anything beyond a gutteral grunt or other piece of fluff from your lips, that would not past muster anywhere in the world outside of the adult industry...but maybe I will be surprised...opps...sorry...being sarcastic again..you won't surprise me...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Sleazy...oh master of design and advertising excellence...yes I have visited your site...and yes I mean the preceding in a sarcastic manner...

I assume that perhaps it is I that you refer to in the above quote. Please share your wisdom, oh wise one. I await the words of wisdom from such a fella as you..(sorry, being sarcastic once again)...truth be known, I really don't expect anything beyond a gutteral grunt or other piece of fluff from your lips, that would not past muster anywhere in the world outside of the adult industry...but maybe I will be surprised...opps...sorry...being sarcastic again..you won't surprise me...

i repeat

"Anyone who doubts Quiet on this really doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground. "


hummm, hole in the ground, 49parellel's ass...can you see a differecne?

quiet 12-04-2002 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
[no idea on the special reserve? I dont' drink enough to remember. i think it was crown, 87 and five star that come out of Gimli, but they are all shipped to and bottled in ontario now I believe. ( the older or special crowns are just aged in oak barrels longer from what i understand). Wat pisses me off the most is that i can buy the stuff cheaper in north dakota than in my own back yard where it's made.
i've never heard of it before now - so i don't know anything about it. seems very high quality though. limited edition sure, but special reserve - no.

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anyway - to sum up my point was you said "the premise" of the thread was pertaining to paysites and I disagreed with that, saying that wasn't the "the" premise, although certainly one of the premises, it wasn't "the" premise in my opinion.
no. again, what i said was, '"this thread was started on the premise of paysite owners"

Quote:

It's foolish to disagree with me when you obviously know I'm right.

:P
hehe

49thParallel 12-04-2002 09:36 PM

Thank you for not disappointing me with any glimmer of actual intellect. Every once in a while, someone comes along on this board that I feel could also make it in mainstream business, if they chose to take the other path...and you are certainly not that man...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:38 PM

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Originally posted by quiet

quote:(from sleazydream)
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anyway - to sum up my point was you said "the premise" of the thread was pertaining to paysites and I disagreed with that, saying that wasn't the "the" premise, although certainly one of the premises, it wasn't "the" premise in my opinion.
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no. again, what i said was, '"this thread was started on the premise of paysite owners"


umm, that's exactly my point - I feel youa re wrong and it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate),

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
Thank you for not disappointing me with any glimmer of actual intellect. Every once in a while, someone comes along on this board that I feel could also make it in mainstream business, if they chose to take the other path...and you are certainly not that man...
yup, obviousy I was a complete failue in mainstream business before porn. I never made a million a year net in my financial practice (which I owned and ran for 7 years), I cleared a 6 figgure income easily but never netted a million for myself in any single year so I must have been a complete failure. I admit it.

quiet 12-04-2002 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


umm, that's exactly my point - I feel youa re wrong and it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate),

umm no.

you have to go one way or the the other.

you argued that there was some overlying premise to the initial post. and of course, there is not. there are several premises. again, i can pull them out of the post if you like.

then, when i mentioned this, you moved on to the title.

if the title was to come into play, then the statment "it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate)" - would be completely bogus. as the title did not mention either.

but now it seems you are back to disregarding the title. if that's the case, and you agree that there is more than a single premise in the initial post - you have no more ground to stand on.

- we agree to disregard the title
- we agree that there is more than one premise in the initial post

if that's agreed, then i am correct. "it was started on the premise."

the initial premise (ie the premise the post started with) in the first post had to do with paysite owners.

there is no way of getting around it...

x582 12-04-2002 09:49 PM

:glugglug

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

49thParallel 12-04-2002 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


yup, obviousy I was a complete failue in mainstream business before porn. I never made a million a year net in my financial practice (which I owned and ran for 7 years), I cleared a 6 figgure income easily but never netted a million for myself in any single year so I must have been a complete failure. I admit it.

Damn...I would assume that a person of your stature would at least be a bit more familiar with the simple nuances of the English language...such as spelling..but besides that, I believe every word...and yes, I would be interested in the ocean front property you have for sale in Montana

Mortimer 12-04-2002 09:52 PM

So, anyone can help me out with my question about Quebec's sale tax? Does it apply the same way the GST does, or are the rules different? I'd like to hear about someone who has had to deal with the Quebec's gouvernment about that and knows their official position.

x582 12-04-2002 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mortimer
So, anyone can help me out with my question about Quebec's sale tax? Does it apply the same way the GST does, or are the rules different? I'd like to hear about someone who has had to deal with the Quebec's gouvernment about that and knows their official position.
No you do not have to charge TVQ - I am 95% sure about this. Contact your accountant or tax lawyer to be sure.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


umm no.

you have to go one way or the the other.

you argued that there was some overlying premise to the initial post. and of course, there is not. there are several premises. again, i can pull them out of the post if you like.

then, when i mentioned this, you moved on to the title.

if the title was to come into play, then the statment "it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate)" - would be completely bogus. as the title did not mention either.

but now it seems you are back to disregarding the title. if that's the case, and you agree that there is more than a single premise in the initial post - you have no more ground to stand on.

- we agree to disregard the title
- we agree that there is more than one premise in the initial post

if that's agreed, then i am correct. "it was started on the premise."

the initial premise (ie the premise the post started with) in the first post had to do with paysite owners.

there is no way of getting around it...

I'm not riding the fense at all. Nor am I trying to change anything I've said.

Neither of us have disagreed that there are several premisies in the thread.

The point of contention is the idea you seem to have that the thread was Started regarding paysites and not alliliate, putting much more emphesis on paysites than affiliate. Not the case. I felt they were equally weighted in the presentation on the first post.

The initial premise of the thread was regarding paysites. But it wasn't "THE PREMISE" as you stated, implying that it was made for paysites and affiliate was an afterthought.
Paysites were "a premise" of the thread - which i agree to, not "the premise" as you initally stated and I caught you on.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by x582


No you do not have to charge TVQ - I am 95% sure about this. Contact your accountant or tax lawyer to be sure.

i wonder if residing in quebec would change that premise?

( did I say premise - damn you quiet)

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


yup, obviousy I was a complete failue in mainstream business before porn. I never made a million a year net in my financial practice (which I owned and ran for 7 years), I cleared a 6 figgure income easily but never netted a million for myself in any single year so I must have been a complete failure. I admit it.

I'm sorry to hear that Sleazy... You still like life? I mean... you won't do anything stupid, will you?

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Damn...I would assume that a person of your stature would at least be a bit more familiar with the simple nuances of the English language...such as spelling..but besides that, I believe every word...and yes, I would be interested in the ocean front property you have for sale in Montana

it's like admitting you're an idoit when you fall back to spelling mistakes in an arguement. you have nothing else to contribute so you nitpick. my grandma does that too......

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]


I'm sorry to hear that Sleazy... You still like life? I mean... you won't do anything stupid, will you?

define stupid?

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


define stupid?

Oh shit, there's no way I'm getting into that Sleazy.

I won't define stupid and start an argument :)


I was just adding to the sarcasm of your post...

Now you can argue on the fact that your post wasn't sarcastic.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


I'm not riding the fense at all. Nor am I trying to change anything I've said.

Neither of us have disagreed that there are several premisies in the thread.

The point of contention is the idea you seem to have that the thread was Started regarding paysites and not alliliate, putting much more emphesis on paysites than affiliate. Not the case. I felt they were equally weighted in the presentation on the first post.

The initial premise of the thread was regarding paysites. But it wasn't "THE PREMISE" as you stated, implying that it was made for paysites and affiliate was an afterthought.
Paysites were "a premise" of the thread - which i agree to, not "the premise" as you initally stated and I caught you on.


Just to help you out here:

fense = fence
alliliate = affiliate
emphesis = emphasis

Strange..but the transition to adult webmaster did not erase my past education or life experiences as it appears to have done to you...thank god you were not my financial consultant...I can just see your case synopsis to CCRA..

My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon...

And to paraphrase something you said earlier..."You don't have a clue, do you" (altered for dramatic effect)

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay[neX]


Oh shit, there's no way I'm getting into that Sleazy.

I won't define stupid and start an argument :)


I was just adding to the sarcasm of your post...

Now you can argue on the fact that your post wasn't sarcastic.

careful now - or I'll sick KK on you.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 49thParallel


Just to help you out here:

fense = fence
alliliate = affiliate
emphesis = emphasis

Strange..but the transition to adult webmaster did not erase my past education or life experiences as it appears to have done to you...thank god you were not my financial consultant...I can just see your case synopsis to CCRA..

My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon...

And to paraphrase something you said earlier..."You don't have a clue, do you" (altered for dramatic effect)

i always laugh when fools correct my spelling with spelling mistakes of their own......... it always amazed me how stupid the stupid can get.

Sad, very sad.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


it's like admitting you're an idoit when you fall back to spelling mistakes in an arguement. you have nothing else to contribute so you nitpick. my grandma does that too......

"life is like a box of chocolates"..sound familar there whiz kid?

p.s. idoit = idiot
arguement = argument

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


"life is like a box of chocolates"..sound familar there whiz kid?

p.s. idoit = idiot
arguement = argument

how's your ass? if you're cute enough I'm willing to grease it up and let you apply for the position as my new sexertary.


bend over baby

quiet 12-04-2002 10:11 PM


Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


careful now - or I'll sick KK on you.

Oh god, there he goes............

quiet 12-04-2002 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
The point of contention is the idea you seem to have that the thread was Started regarding paysites and not alliliate, putting much more emphesis on paysites than affiliate.
absolutely not. NO where did i ever say that more emphasis should be placed on paysites verses affiliates. i was simply showing that my points were valid in this discussion. in fact, i have not mentioned affliate gst at all, except in quotations from others. i know nothing of the matter. i already had this argument with 49.

so that's completely false.

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The initial premise of the thread was regarding paysites. But it wasn't "THE PREMISE" as you stated, implying that it was made for paysites and affiliate was an afterthought.
nope. never said that either. i never said THE PREMISE. what i did say was, 'started on the premise' (involving pay sites). which it was. and i keep on mentioning that there IS NO single premise to the initial post. so i have no idea why you keep saying that i'm stating some all-encompassing PREMISE. when i have done no such thing.

and i certainly never implied that affilate's were an afterthought. period.

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Paysites were "a premise" of the thread - which i agree to, not "the premise" as you initally stated and I caught you on.
where are you coming up with this? the quote is:

'started on the premise...'

which, of course it was.


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