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SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
Thank you for not disappointing me with any glimmer of actual intellect. Every once in a while, someone comes along on this board that I feel could also make it in mainstream business, if they chose to take the other path...and you are certainly not that man...
yup, obviousy I was a complete failue in mainstream business before porn. I never made a million a year net in my financial practice (which I owned and ran for 7 years), I cleared a 6 figgure income easily but never netted a million for myself in any single year so I must have been a complete failure. I admit it.

quiet 12-04-2002 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


umm, that's exactly my point - I feel youa re wrong and it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate),

umm no.

you have to go one way or the the other.

you argued that there was some overlying premise to the initial post. and of course, there is not. there are several premises. again, i can pull them out of the post if you like.

then, when i mentioned this, you moved on to the title.

if the title was to come into play, then the statment "it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate)" - would be completely bogus. as the title did not mention either.

but now it seems you are back to disregarding the title. if that's the case, and you agree that there is more than a single premise in the initial post - you have no more ground to stand on.

- we agree to disregard the title
- we agree that there is more than one premise in the initial post

if that's agreed, then i am correct. "it was started on the premise."

the initial premise (ie the premise the post started with) in the first post had to do with paysite owners.

there is no way of getting around it...

x582 12-04-2002 09:49 PM

:glugglug

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

49thParallel 12-04-2002 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


yup, obviousy I was a complete failue in mainstream business before porn. I never made a million a year net in my financial practice (which I owned and ran for 7 years), I cleared a 6 figgure income easily but never netted a million for myself in any single year so I must have been a complete failure. I admit it.

Damn...I would assume that a person of your stature would at least be a bit more familiar with the simple nuances of the English language...such as spelling..but besides that, I believe every word...and yes, I would be interested in the ocean front property you have for sale in Montana

Mortimer 12-04-2002 09:52 PM

So, anyone can help me out with my question about Quebec's sale tax? Does it apply the same way the GST does, or are the rules different? I'd like to hear about someone who has had to deal with the Quebec's gouvernment about that and knows their official position.

x582 12-04-2002 09:55 PM

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Originally posted by Mortimer
So, anyone can help me out with my question about Quebec's sale tax? Does it apply the same way the GST does, or are the rules different? I'd like to hear about someone who has had to deal with the Quebec's gouvernment about that and knows their official position.
No you do not have to charge TVQ - I am 95% sure about this. Contact your accountant or tax lawyer to be sure.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


umm no.

you have to go one way or the the other.

you argued that there was some overlying premise to the initial post. and of course, there is not. there are several premises. again, i can pull them out of the post if you like.

then, when i mentioned this, you moved on to the title.

if the title was to come into play, then the statment "it was started on the premise of both (paysite and affiliate)" - would be completely bogus. as the title did not mention either.

but now it seems you are back to disregarding the title. if that's the case, and you agree that there is more than a single premise in the initial post - you have no more ground to stand on.

- we agree to disregard the title
- we agree that there is more than one premise in the initial post

if that's agreed, then i am correct. "it was started on the premise."

the initial premise (ie the premise the post started with) in the first post had to do with paysite owners.

there is no way of getting around it...

I'm not riding the fense at all. Nor am I trying to change anything I've said.

Neither of us have disagreed that there are several premisies in the thread.

The point of contention is the idea you seem to have that the thread was Started regarding paysites and not alliliate, putting much more emphesis on paysites than affiliate. Not the case. I felt they were equally weighted in the presentation on the first post.

The initial premise of the thread was regarding paysites. But it wasn't "THE PREMISE" as you stated, implying that it was made for paysites and affiliate was an afterthought.
Paysites were "a premise" of the thread - which i agree to, not "the premise" as you initally stated and I caught you on.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by x582


No you do not have to charge TVQ - I am 95% sure about this. Contact your accountant or tax lawyer to be sure.

i wonder if residing in quebec would change that premise?

( did I say premise - damn you quiet)

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


yup, obviousy I was a complete failue in mainstream business before porn. I never made a million a year net in my financial practice (which I owned and ran for 7 years), I cleared a 6 figgure income easily but never netted a million for myself in any single year so I must have been a complete failure. I admit it.

I'm sorry to hear that Sleazy... You still like life? I mean... you won't do anything stupid, will you?

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Damn...I would assume that a person of your stature would at least be a bit more familiar with the simple nuances of the English language...such as spelling..but besides that, I believe every word...and yes, I would be interested in the ocean front property you have for sale in Montana

it's like admitting you're an idoit when you fall back to spelling mistakes in an arguement. you have nothing else to contribute so you nitpick. my grandma does that too......

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]


I'm sorry to hear that Sleazy... You still like life? I mean... you won't do anything stupid, will you?

define stupid?

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


define stupid?

Oh shit, there's no way I'm getting into that Sleazy.

I won't define stupid and start an argument :)


I was just adding to the sarcasm of your post...

Now you can argue on the fact that your post wasn't sarcastic.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


I'm not riding the fense at all. Nor am I trying to change anything I've said.

Neither of us have disagreed that there are several premisies in the thread.

The point of contention is the idea you seem to have that the thread was Started regarding paysites and not alliliate, putting much more emphesis on paysites than affiliate. Not the case. I felt they were equally weighted in the presentation on the first post.

The initial premise of the thread was regarding paysites. But it wasn't "THE PREMISE" as you stated, implying that it was made for paysites and affiliate was an afterthought.
Paysites were "a premise" of the thread - which i agree to, not "the premise" as you initally stated and I caught you on.


Just to help you out here:

fense = fence
alliliate = affiliate
emphesis = emphasis

Strange..but the transition to adult webmaster did not erase my past education or life experiences as it appears to have done to you...thank god you were not my financial consultant...I can just see your case synopsis to CCRA..

My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon...

And to paraphrase something you said earlier..."You don't have a clue, do you" (altered for dramatic effect)

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]


Oh shit, there's no way I'm getting into that Sleazy.

I won't define stupid and start an argument :)


I was just adding to the sarcasm of your post...

Now you can argue on the fact that your post wasn't sarcastic.

careful now - or I'll sick KK on you.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Just to help you out here:

fense = fence
alliliate = affiliate
emphesis = emphasis

Strange..but the transition to adult webmaster did not erase my past education or life experiences as it appears to have done to you...thank god you were not my financial consultant...I can just see your case synopsis to CCRA..

My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon...

And to paraphrase something you said earlier..."You don't have a clue, do you" (altered for dramatic effect)

i always laugh when fools correct my spelling with spelling mistakes of their own......... it always amazed me how stupid the stupid can get.

Sad, very sad.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


it's like admitting you're an idoit when you fall back to spelling mistakes in an arguement. you have nothing else to contribute so you nitpick. my grandma does that too......

"life is like a box of chocolates"..sound familar there whiz kid?

p.s. idoit = idiot
arguement = argument

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


"life is like a box of chocolates"..sound familar there whiz kid?

p.s. idoit = idiot
arguement = argument

how's your ass? if you're cute enough I'm willing to grease it up and let you apply for the position as my new sexertary.


bend over baby

quiet 12-04-2002 10:11 PM


Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


careful now - or I'll sick KK on you.

Oh god, there he goes............

quiet 12-04-2002 10:12 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
The point of contention is the idea you seem to have that the thread was Started regarding paysites and not alliliate, putting much more emphesis on paysites than affiliate.
absolutely not. NO where did i ever say that more emphasis should be placed on paysites verses affiliates. i was simply showing that my points were valid in this discussion. in fact, i have not mentioned affliate gst at all, except in quotations from others. i know nothing of the matter. i already had this argument with 49.

so that's completely false.

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The initial premise of the thread was regarding paysites. But it wasn't "THE PREMISE" as you stated, implying that it was made for paysites and affiliate was an afterthought.
nope. never said that either. i never said THE PREMISE. what i did say was, 'started on the premise' (involving pay sites). which it was. and i keep on mentioning that there IS NO single premise to the initial post. so i have no idea why you keep saying that i'm stating some all-encompassing PREMISE. when i have done no such thing.

and i certainly never implied that affilate's were an afterthought. period.

Quote:

Paysites were "a premise" of the thread - which i agree to, not "the premise" as you initally stated and I caught you on.
where are you coming up with this? the quote is:

'started on the premise...'

which, of course it was.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:15 PM

Well boys, enjoy the circle jerk...

I am obviously outwitted by a person who built a fortune in the "financial" arena. Is this like saying you are in the "entertainment " business..when you sell popcorn at the local theater.

Sorry mate, but you don't talk the talk...Like I said earlier, you don't just make it in the mainstream world and then jump into the adult biz and forget it all. You don't have it...you simply don't have what it takes...thank god for porn...

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:22 PM

Well this was quite an entertaining thread... Good job guys :)

http://www.inicient.com/hassle.jpg

xxxcam 12-04-2002 10:23 PM

can 49thParallel and quet both shuttup already >? and let people post usefull info not some bullshit you can disscuss over icq or whatever privately...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


this thread was started on the premise of paysite owners. and in terms of paysite owners, the answer is YES.


I took that to mean this


just cause paysites owners were mentioned first doesn't mean that was the reason the thread was created.


ok, I think we have a misunderstanding here.
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Originally posted by quiet
the thread was started on that premise. absolutely it was. other premises were added, but that was the starting premise.


I think it all boils down to what you meant by the term "started". If you meant it to be the begining of the thread then you are right.

I took it to mean that the thread was "created"(started) on the premise of paysite owners and took offense to it.

is that the situation or did I miss something?

quiet 12-04-2002 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by xxxcam
can 49thParallel and quet both shuttup already >? and let people post usefull info not some bullshit you can disscuss over icq or whatever privately...
i've posted more useful, practical information than anyone else in this thread...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
thank god for porn...
yep - thank God for porn. Too bad you're not in it.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


i always laugh when fools correct my spelling with spelling mistakes of their own......... it always amazed me how stupid the stupid can get.

Sad, very sad.

Oh, and not one to point out your obvious intellectual flaws, but.... this statement "My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon... " was actually intended to illustrate how YOU might talk...and was not a sloppy demonstration of my understanding of the English language.

Oh damn, I must remember the first rule of advertising..."know your audience"...so here we go, in simple terms that you can comprehend...
food...good..yum

Enjoy your evening, whiz kid....

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


i've posted more useful, practical information than anyone else in this thread...

X582 may have something to say about that. :P

on this topic in gfy you've posted more useful practical information than ANYONE else without a doubt though.

quiet 12-04-2002 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
I think it all boils down to what you meant by the term "started". If you meant it to be the begining of the thread then you are right.
agreed. that is all i meant. 49 said my posts were 'pointless' so i brought up the fact that the starting premise in the initial post was directed at paysite owners.

no where did i say anything about afflilates.

Quote:

I took it to mean that the thread was "created"(started) on the premise of paysite owners and took offense to it.

is that the situation or did I miss something? [/B]
you missed something. i was stating my views from the paysite perspective. 49 said i should shut up. i responded by quoting the initial premise of the thread.

that's it :)

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Oh, and not one to point out your obvious intellectual flaws, but.... this statement "My boy aint done nothin wrong...he good folk...except for the rash...but it done get better soon... " was actually intended to illustrate how YOU might talk...and was not a sloppy demonstration of my understanding of the English language.

Oh damn, I must remember the first rule of advertising..."know your audience"...so here we go, in simple terms that you can comprehend...
food...good..yum

Enjoy your evening, whiz kid....

Can someone tell me what's his point?

Does he want to say that Sleazy is nothing cause he doesn't make as much money in mainstream biz as him?

:helpme

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet


you missed something. i was stating my views from the paysite perspective. 49 said i should shut up. i responded by quoting the initial premise of the thread.

that's it :)

Nay, you made a post right after mine to question the validity of my comments...this I took exception to...and yes, that post was pointless...and yes, I did tell you in my own colorful language to shut up...on that you are correct...

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:34 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


you missed something. i was stating my views from the paysite perspective. 49 said i should shut up. i responded by quoting the initial premise of the thread.

that's it :)

You know that I have NEVER said you posts were pointless. I agree that 49th is a complete idiot.

You also know I've been looking for something to agrue with you about for some time now. :) It no fun to all dance together in harmony around the fire every night.

Too bad it was a God damn terminology miscommunication.

I was really hoping you were going to jump in on that low profile/stardome thread i started about you a few weeks back.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nay, you made a post right after mine to question the validity of my comments...this I took exception to...and yes, that post was pointless...and yes, I did tell you in my own colorful language to shut up...on that you are correct...

Quiet was right to question your validity. It is questionable.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by Jay[neX]


Can someone tell me what's his point?

Does he want to say that Sleazy is nothing cause he doesn't make as much money in mainstream biz as him?

:helpme

And my point to this...Sleazy attempted to call me a fool long before I took a personal swing at him...so, a rebuttal from me to him was warranted...and yes, I still think he is a fool...

shann 12-04-2002 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


I've gone many times to porn conventions on business in the USA. I always tell the border guards the truth, and they always let me go. One even knew my site and had me sign one of my businss cards for him.


what they are cocerned about is ifyou are making money in the usa - when I tell them I'm buying for work and not generating any revenue while in the USA they let me in easily. If you say you are going to make money in the USA you will have LOTS of problems. they always want to to come in and buy stuff though.

Thanks for the help Sleazy Dream, i have a few other questions if you don't mind my asking, not exactly fitting this forum, my icq is 52624206. I'd love to share some thoughts on this with you to get me across the boarder next time! :)

quiet 12-04-2002 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
I was really hoping you were going to jump in on that low profile/stardome thread i started about you a few weeks back.
i never post in threads started about me.

but i am still low profile. i don't put my sites or business in anyone's face each day, like so many high profilers do. 99% of anything i talk about here has nothing to do with business.

i'm soooo glad i don't deal with affliliates :)

quiet 12-04-2002 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nay, you made a post right after mine to question the validity of my comments...this I took exception to...and yes, that post was pointless...and yes, I did tell you in my own colorful language to shut up...on that you are correct...

you are a joke.

you know nothing of this business, that is obvious.

you say you run a large accounting firm? yet you don't understand gst? riiiight.

keep dreaming lol.

Jay_StandAhead 12-04-2002 10:40 PM

Please keep going guys, my pizza just got here.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by quiet




i'm soooo glad i don't deal with affliliates :)

I hear ya there, it's why I don't take gallery submissions on sleazydream.

49thParallel 12-04-2002 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


you are a joke.

you know nothing of this business, that is obvious.

you say you run a large accounting firm? yet you don't understand gst? riiiight.

keep dreaming lol.

Nope, wrong again...an advertising firm..accounting was Sleazy...and yes, I do understand GST...but the amazing thing is, I know the law...and have never thought I was exempt from the laws that affected ALL other Canadian businesses..so, strange, but I have never had any issues with Rev Can..except for the normal luck of the draw audits...which have all been nuisances...but no surprises.

You, on the other hand, as I illustrated on another post, have made your own bed by skirting the law for 6 years...suck it up Princess...the Piper is a calling. You chose to not voluntarily comply to the laws...Rev Can will help you comply...but you already know that, don't you...

quiet 12-04-2002 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nope, wrong again...an advertising firm..accounting was Sleazy...and yes, I do understand GST...but the amazing thing is, I know the law...and have never thought I was exempt from the laws that affected ALL other Canadian businesses..so, strange, but I have never had any issues with Rev Can..except for the normal luck of the draw audits...which have all been nuisances...but no surprises.

You, on the other hand, as I illustrated on another post, have made your own bed by skirting the law for 6 years...suck it up Princess...the Piper is a calling. You chose to not voluntarily comply to the laws...Rev Can will help you comply...but you already know that, don't you...

the true sign of professionalism. giving out advice when you don't know your ass from your head:

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My advice to other Canadian paysite owners...set up a separate link for Canadian subscribers...
-include the 7% gst in the price, so that you remain competitive with your US counterparts. Yes, you take a 7% hit, but 7% on Canadian and not all sales.
-Make sure your GST number is clearly displayed on the page, as required by law
-Keep accurate books.
-Submit on time every quarter

I am not a accountant or a lawyer, but I have been around the block with Revenue Canada for more years then some of you out there have likely been alive...so I have a pretty firm grip on their expectations.
you'll never be anything sunshine. you never had a hope. and now that you've realized it, you're bitter. it's okay, many have been through the same :)

i hear lovematch is holding another 50 buck 20K image sale. better jump on that... ahahaha.

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Nope, wrong again...an advertising firm..accounting was Sleazy...and yes, I do understand GST...but the amazing thing is, I know the law...and have never thought I was exempt from the laws that affected ALL other Canadian businesses..so, strange, but I have never had any issues with Rev Can..except for the normal luck of the draw audits...which have all been nuisances...but no surprises.

You, on the other hand, as I illustrated on another post, have made your own bed by skirting the law for 6 years...suck it up Princess...the Piper is a calling. You chose to not voluntarily comply to the laws...Rev Can will help you comply...but you already know that, don't you...

when did I EVER say i was in accounting? Please point that out. another strong sign that you are a fool.

noone KNOWS the law. any good lawyer will tell you that - another sign that you are a fool.

I had my advisors review Quiets GST appeal, he wasn't skirting the law in any way, shape, form, or fassion. - another sign you are a fool.


soo many signs point to the fact that you're a fool. Guess that means you're a fool. Period.

xxxcam 12-04-2002 10:59 PM

i know what's going on

sleazydream,quet and 49parallel are playing this game to win dvd :Graucho

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:01 PM

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Originally posted by quiet


you'll never be anything sunshine. you never had a hope. and now that you've realized it, you're bitter. it's okay, many have been through the same :)

i hear lovematch is holding another 50 buck 20K image sale. better jump on that... ahahaha.

Thank you for pointing out my failure...you are right...everything in my posts would certainly indicate that i have failed...

And thank you for once again pointing out that I do know what I am talking about....with sound business advice that has worked for me and ... let's see, 99% of the other businesses in Canada...

But, who am I talking to,...oh yes, the fella that has paid Rev Can $600,000 in 6 years...hmmm. I see what you mean...you certainly do demonstrate superior business planning and outstanding tax knowledge ...

And thanks for the Lovematch offer, but I hear he is out of business..but should you offer up one of your sites for a similar price...I am open to negotiation...

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


when did I EVER say i was in accounting? Please point that out. another strong sign that you are a fool.

noone KNOWS the law. any good lawyer will tell you that - another sign that you are a fool.

I had my advisors review Quiets GST appeal, he wasn't skirting the law in any way, shape, form, or fassion. - another sign you are a fool.


soo many signs point to the fact that you're a fool. Guess that means you're a fool. Period.

Oh, I am sorry...a "financial" firm...please explain...

And come on, this is getting weak..Quiet did not charge Canadian customers GST...unless every single one of his clients was a treaty indian (with permit numbers and signatures to back up the claims)...this is skirting the law...everyone know this....

quiet 12-04-2002 11:05 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel
But, who am I talking to,...oh yes, the fella that has paid Rev Can $600,000 in 6 years...hmmm. I see what you mean...you certainly do demonstrate superior business planning and outstanding tax knowledge ...
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you are so stupid, it's truly mind-blowing.

600K gst. you know, the 7 percent tax thing. and that was a year ago. so now it's been 7 years. nothing to do with income tax. fuck you are stupid.

now, tell us more about you non-existant advertising company.

:glugglug

you must be a huge success, coming into adult and going to the lowest whore (50 bucks for 20K images). then balling you eyes out when you got ripped off (did i mention you were an idiot?).

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Thank you for pointing out my failure...you are right...everything in my posts would certainly indicate that i have failed...

And thank you for once again pointing out that I do know what I am talking about....with sound business advice that has worked for me and ... let's see, 99% of the other businesses in Canada...

But, who am I talking to,...oh yes, the fella that has paid Rev Can $600,000 in 6 years...hmmm. I see what you mean...you certainly do demonstrate superior business planning and outstanding tax knowledge ...

And thanks for the Lovematch offer, but I hear he is out of business..but should you offer up one of your sites for a similar price...I am open to negotiation...

where are you pulling all this info from? your ass is the most likely sourse.

Quiet paid more than $600k to the GST office alone - not even counting the income tax he's paid.

solid business advise still accounts for the VAST majority of new businesses ending their first year in total financial ruin.


Are you high?

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:08 PM

And really....work on that spelling and grammar for god's sake...

Translation...grr...grunt...grunt..grrr...I am a financial mogul...grunt grunt...you shiny..me like

49thParallel 12-04-2002 11:11 PM

Why do I bother...GST...goods and sales TAX...oh, look, it is a tax..it must be, it has the word tax in it

...you skirted the tax by not having the intelligence to realize that ALL Canadians must pay GST on goods and services, hence the name Goods and Services Tax. In the eyes of CCRA and in mine, you purposely tried to evade the legal requirement to collect GST on Canadian purchases....get it now..whiz kid(s)

SleazyDream 12-04-2002 11:14 PM

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Originally posted by 49thParallel


Oh, I am sorry...a "financial" firm...please explain...

And come on, this is getting weak..Quiet did not charge Canadian customers GST...unless every single one of his clients was a treaty indian (with permit numbers and signatures to back up the claims)...this is skirting the law...everyone know this....

Quiet had sound and legitmate financial advise not to charge GST - the same top level professional advise that was also given to much larger sites like Gammae for example.

One good point though, knowing most native reserves 99% of Quiet's Canadian clients WERE probally treaty indians, or at least 99% of the Canadian clients that got charged back for fraud credit cards.

I owned my own brokerage company (with a partner) for investments and insurance. I wasn't no bean counter. I was and am a salesman.


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