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Old 07-13-2009, 12:55 PM   #51
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No he is not no our payroll. Sorry I am not going to get sucked into a drama thread. I posted to clarify that he is not an FTV employee. As for any other issues, they have nothing to do with GFY.


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Old 07-13-2009, 01:03 PM   #52
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I am 100% straight, the sybian never touches me... Ha ha ha Yup i use it to find hot girls who love watching Paris Hilton Carmen Electra who all use it on Howerd Stern show!

Also you post my full real name and now I am going to have you found and well I will see you in court Keeping it Real.
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He does not "shoot" for us, if he shoots a FTV quality girl we may buy that content. As for him being an official FTV photographer that is not the case.
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I am 100% straight, the sybian never touches me... Ha ha ha Yup i use it to find hot girls who love watching Paris Hilton Carmen Electra who all use it on Howerd Stern show!

Also you post my full real name and now I am going to have you found and well I will see you in court Keeping it Real.
Hey man, what's your ICQ? I want to talk about that sybian up your ass. J/K, I want to talk about your i7 video machine. Hit me up please, my number is in my sig.
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First of all, I shoot porn. I shoot content bottom line. If one does not like my content, then it is simple, do not buy it or do business with me.

Second, this person " Keeping It Real " is a coward hiding behind a anonymous profile here on GFY slandering someone, like a weak ass little punk bitch that he is.

It is so funny that this weak coward is sucking a lot of you people in his bullshit!

Yes, I am in the sex biz! Just all the rest of everyone here on GFY.

Ha ha ha ha Hell yeah I will charge some angry house wife to ride my Sybian!
I am 100% straight, the Sybian is not for me guys! Go ahead and humor yourselves thinking so, but its not going to happen. I am straight!

As far as being a felon or ex felon, who gives a fuck!! I still shoot good content!

If you dont like my work, then GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

GO FUCK YOURSELF!!
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:01 PM   #60
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Keeping It Real is just keeping it real....
So you agree with the punks method of being a coward Pheer..??
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:03 PM   #61
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Second, this person " Keeping It Real " is a coward hiding behind a anonymous profile here on GFY slandering someone, like a weak ass little punk bitch that he is.
You do know there is a difference between slander and libel, don't you? I would say this is not the case here....

Bottom line, truth is in slander and libel ;)
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Old 07-13-2009, 02:13 PM   #62
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First of all, I shoot porn. I shoot content bottom line. If one does not like my content, then it is simple, do not buy it or do business with me.

Second, this person " Keeping It Real " is a coward hiding behind a anonymous profile here on GFY slandering someone, like a weak ass little punk bitch that he is.

It is so funny that this weak coward is sucking a lot of you people in his bullshit!

Yes, I am in the sex biz! Just all the rest of everyone here on GFY.

Ha ha ha ha Hell yeah I will charge some angry house wife to ride my Sybian!
I am 100% straight, the Sybian is not for me guys! Go ahead and humor yourselves thinking so, but its not going to happen. I am straight!

As far as being a felon or ex felon, who gives a fuck!! I still shoot good content!

If you dont like my work, then GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

Are you Donny's brother?
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No but several models I know have similar stories and I have emails from Eddie admitting things he has done. Plus many of the Phoenix producers have first hand knowledge of his antics.
Lets see a email that I sent you, about something i have done come on coward!!
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You do know there is a difference between slander and libel, don't you? I would say this is not the case here....

Bottom line, truth is in slander and libel ;)
So you are saying that by this keeping it real guy stating that I abuse and sexual assault models is not slander..??
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So you agree with the punks method of being a coward Pheer..??
Hey this is GFY, looks like business as normal to me

I just think his name is funny.
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You have proof that I abuse models. Cause I do not Abuse models! Some producers tell me right to my face that i treat them to nice.

You have no proof that a sexually assault models, cause you are full of lies!
This is slander and defamation of character, and i will have you in court for this
matter, that is fact!

The thing is... Why are you going through the lengths to ruin my reputation.??
What have I done to you..?? I bet you can NOT think of one thing that i have
done to YOU " Keeping it Real " for you to be doing this to me.

What is that i have done to YOU???

If you can not answer this simple question, then you prove to all of that you are so full of shit you stink. Dont avoid answering the question! What have I done specifically to YOU??
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First of all, I shoot porn. I shoot content bottom line. If one does not like my content, then it is simple, do not buy it or do business with me.

Second, this person " Keeping It Real " is a coward hiding behind a anonymous profile here on GFY slandering someone, like a weak ass little punk bitch that he is.

It is so funny that this weak coward is sucking a lot of you people in his bullshit!

Yes, I am in the sex biz! Just all the rest of everyone here on GFY.

Ha ha ha ha Hell yeah I will charge some angry house wife to ride my Sybian!
I am 100% straight, the Sybian is not for me guys! Go ahead and humor yourselves thinking so, but its not going to happen. I am straight!

As far as being a felon or ex felon, who gives a fuck!! I still shoot good content!

If you dont like my work, then GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

GO FUCK YOURSELF!!

I dont know you and im not here to attack you. You look like you take some pretty nice pics and you seem to shoot nice video.

If you really want to make it in adult, I recommend you show a little bit more respect to some of the people on the boards. You really have no idea who is who until you find out nobody wants to do business with you.


You will get people that will hate on you, but you need to defend yourself politely and let things go. I go to shows and i treat everybody better than i expect to be treated and as a result i got so many people i can go to if i have any questions about any aspect of this business. The knowledge you can gain by a lot of the posters on GFY is priceless, but if you want to be a tough guy or a Billy Bad Ass you will fail in this biz.

Its all on you, good luck dude
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I dont know you and im not here to attack you. You look like you take some pretty nice pics and you seem to shoot nice video.

If you really want to make it in adult, I recommend you show a little bit more respect to some of the people on the boards. You really have no idea who is who until you find out nobody wants to do business with you.


You will get people that will hate on you, but you need to defend yourself politely and let things go. I go to shows and i treat everybody better than i expect to be treated and as a result i got so many people i can go to if i have any questions about any aspect of this business. The knowledge you can gain by a lot of the posters on GFY is priceless, but if you want to be a tough guy or a Billy Bad Ass you will fail in this biz.

Its all on you, good luck dude
You are so right!! I couldn't agree with you more.

However i shoot what i shoot and treat the girls nice, maybe too nice as some other producers pointed out. I am just me trying to shoot content and do biz.

That is about it.
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So you are saying that by this keeping it real guy stating that I abuse and sexual assault models is not slander..??

If I type it then it's libel not slander. You claim to have some sort of a prison GED in legal or some shit so you should know this. However it's also the truth and since I have proof of it from you I'm not even the slightest little bit concerned about you taking any sort of legal action whatsoever.

Plus now I have a screen shot of you offering your stud service for money which could come in very handy for me but no so much for you.
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You have proof that I abuse models. Cause I do not Abuse models! Some producers tell me right to my face that i treat them to nice.

You have no proof that a sexually assault models, cause you are full of lies!
This is slander and defamation of character, and i will have you in court for this
matter, that is fact!

The thing is... Why are you going through the lengths to ruin my reputation.??
What have I done to you..?? I bet you can NOT think of one thing that i have
done to YOU " Keeping it Real " for you to be doing this to me.

What is that i have done to YOU???

If you can not answer this simple question, then you prove to all of that you are so full of shit you stink. Dont avoid answering the question! What have I done specifically to YOU??
Not one single thing.

This is not about what you have done to me directly it's about what people like you do to this industry.
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No he is not no our payroll. Sorry I am not going to get sucked into a drama thread. I posted to clarify that he is not an FTV employee. As for any other issues, they have nothing to do with GFY.
That´s what I call a professionell statement. I´m going to promote your sites.
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I dont know you and im not here to attack you. You look like you take some pretty nice pics and you seem to shoot nice video.

If you really want to make it in adult, I recommend you show a little bit more respect to some of the people on the boards. You really have no idea who is who until you find out nobody wants to do business with you.


You will get people that will hate on you, but you need to defend yourself politely and let things go. I go to shows and i treat everybody better than i expect to be treated and as a result i got so many people i can go to if i have any questions about any aspect of this business. The knowledge you can gain by a lot of the posters on GFY is priceless, but if you want to be a tough guy or a Billy Bad Ass you will fail in this biz.

Its all on you, good luck dude

Great advice.

When I first met you I was not sure what to think of you. After reading your posts for the last year and a half plus running into you at a show here and there you have shown me that you are one hell of a nice guy and a wealth of technical information. I've also never heard anybody say so much as one single bad word about you. Unfortunately I can not say the same for Eddie.
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SunDevilangels: Your name is in your domain whois

Shhhh. The dumb fuck is too stupid to figure that out.
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You are so right!! I couldn't agree with you more.

However i shoot what i shoot and treat the girls nice, maybe too nice as some other producers pointed out. I am just me trying to shoot content and do biz.

That is about it.
Treating talent nice is a good thing, i do the same, but you need to be the same with people on this board and others. Even when people say stupid shit, you need to be polite when you defend your self or you will become the next Donny Long without knowing it.


There are so many big company Lurkers on this board, you never want to come off as combative or angry. People wont want to hire you or do business with you.


Im not saying be a bitch, but i cant tell you how many times i want to go find a GFY poster and whoop his ass, but i dont! I try being polite to what ever fucked up thing he writes. It really benefits me in the long run.

Let your work speak for itself and dont get baited into fights on the boards. trust me on that one!!


If you ever have any questions feel free to ICQ me, i will answer anything you ask to best of my abilities. I have been shooting for 8+ years and im friends with a shitload of other shooters. I never say anything bad about anybody. If i have something bad to say, i still say something nice.
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Does anyone else find it ironic that, on an adult forum, calling someone a "whore" is supposed to be an insult?


Listen, we make our livings off of whores that most of us wouldn't want to associate with on anything other than a business level. For someone to call this dude a whore as an insult doesn't make any sense. If he can get clients, good on him.
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As for any other issues, they have nothing to do with GFY.

This statement in and of itself should be noted. It indicates that there is an issue between FTV and Eddie Coates.

Part of me wants to give kudos to Chris for keeping it professional but the other part of me would love for him to keep it real and let others know about these "other issues" he has mentioned.

Issues. Plural. Meaning more than one.
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Does anyone else find it ironic that, on an adult forum, calling someone a "whore" is supposed to be an insult?


Listen, we make our livings off of whores that most of us wouldn't want to associate with on anything other than a business level. For someone to call this dude a whore as an insult doesn't make any sense. If he can get clients, good on him.

If you degrade your models by addressing them as whores then you are a disrespectful prick who does not treat his models properly. That is what Eddie does. Then as it turns out he is a textbook example of a whore which by default also makes him a hypocrite.
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Great advice.

When I first met you I was not sure what to think of you. After reading your posts for the last year and a half plus running into you at a show here and there you have shown me that you are one hell of a nice guy and a wealth of technical information. I've also never heard anybody say so much as one single bad word about you. Unfortunately I can not say the same for Eddie.
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Anytime anyone has any questions about anything i will always answer them. Jim Gunn, BM Bradly, Niky Malo and a bunch of others are the same.


And as far as Eddie is concerned, i feel its never too late to change and fit in. I just try looking at the better side of people as gay as that sounds.lol
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So you are saying that by this keeping it real guy stating that I abuse and sexual assault models is not slander..??
Maybe this will help.
In law, defamation (also called calumny, libel (for written words), slander (for spoken words), and vilification) is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government or nation a negative image. It is usually, but not always,[1] a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).

In common law jurisdictions, slander refers to a malicious, false and defamatory spoken statement or report, while libel refers to any other form of communication such as written words or images. Most jurisdictions allow legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism. Related to defamation is public disclosure of private facts, which arises where one person reveals information that is not of public concern, and the release of which would offend a reasonable person. "Unlike [with] libel, truth is not a defence for invasion of privacy."[2]

False light laws are "intended primarily to protect the plaintiff's mental or emotional well-being."[3] If a publication of information is false, then a tort of defamation might have occurred. If that communication is not technically false but is still misleading, then a tort of false light might have occurred.[3]

But as I said, truth is in libel and slander. I assume this person has proof or this would have never come to light...just my
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I have no problems with anyone on GFY except this so called Keeping it Real ...

My site is called Sun Devil Angels, I try to tell girls to NOT do degrading porn to save their image. I do not abuse girls, I do not sexually assault girls, never have and i never will! It is not in my nature to do so.

All you are , is someone who hates me and my work in general.

You say you have emails of me admitting my actions or antics , as you put it!
Lets see those emails! You put up a screen shot of an ad I made out of shits and giggles.

Guess what i found girls with that ad to shoot content!! Good stuff.

I am a "WHORE" and I am a whore for hire! I will bring my cameras and shoot shoot shoot! Pay me and i will shoot your content! I dont know who Donny long is.

Keeping It real has dedicated himself to fucking with me. But he has no facts.
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I still don't see what the problem is with posting your full name when I'm positive I've seen it elsewhere on this forum or online before this post was created.

Eddie is actually handling this pretty calmly considering the accusations.
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fucking idiots.. u r porn sellers for goodness sake
leave the guy and live ur own life.
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I have butter if you will share the popcorn........
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All I can say at this point is... I know who i am and what I do. I shoot content, I do find unworthy girls sometimes who love to make lies and gossip, I also get lucky and find true sweetheart girls that i shoot for a very long time.

This is what i see happening..... I was getting girls from craigslist at one point.
They would come do a shoot and get paid, then go shoot with other shooters and then all of a sudden , I have become a bad guy, but not until after they meet and shoot with producers who have way more than me. Like I have 1995 3000GT SL and this guy has 2008 Benz, so whatever he tells that model is golden, cause he has more. Nicer car , big house show more success, so that model will side with who she feels will benefit her greater! So what does that make her..??

I shoot boy/girl... Everyone knows that! No secret! So when i speak to model for the very first time on the phone before we even meet, she knows way ahead of time that i am paying and expect boy/girl performance. That model then shows up, answering an ad that clearly states , "Looking for girls 18 to 25 who are willing to perform boy/girl sex on video", she performs without hesitation, gets paid then leaves. Only for me to hear
how unprofessional I am for being the Camera man and talent or something stupid, because these NEW girls that I only shoot have no idea about POV. 40 something % of LA porn is all POV!! Why is that us in AZ get a bad rap for doing POV..?? Its ok for LA or Hollywood to do it, it is the way..lol OMG!!

I pay these girls , $1000 for SDA / $1200 for nubiles / $1000 to $2000 for FTV
These girls make more than I do for christ sake!! Why am i the bad guy here???
I paid Amai Miley the day she turned 18 $1500 for her very first solo shoot nubiles, she tried to rewrite the nubiles model release, we had a huge blow out cause she did not like the model release! WTF, Sign the release and get the fuck out! OR you don't get paid! She is the very first and only model to ever complain about a fucking model release during my shoots! That is the only model i have ever had a real problem with before she left my place after a shoot.

All the other models are influenced by other hater shooters. I have nothing to hide from anyone. I shoot good content, i deliver content. I will not deal with Craigslist tweakers anymore. I will only handpick them from ASU in person, fresh hot girls NO drug users!

People I found Lia19 , Remember??? I found several girls in this biz, how easily we all forget that i find the best talents for everyone to make money by...

If you let this guy Keeping it real , win I can go away and not bring anymore girls to the biz. I have been in the shadows bringing girls and you have not even known it for the longest time. I have been finding girls since 1995. Now I am known due to me launching my very own website. When I launched my site all the haters came forth.

When i was just a shooter for FTV and nubiles, Rob use to tell me that there are so many haters in this biz, you gotta watch out, I was thinking ok, everyone is out to get Rob ...lol
But now that I have my own site , I now feel what he goes through on a daily basis.
I am sorry Rob I doubted you for a second. You are so right! There are so many cut throats in this biz.

So again.... I am just a small guy trying to make great content for everyone and my site as well.... There is the truth.. You all have it now.....
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All I can say at this point is... I know who i am and what I do. I shoot content, I do find unworthy girls sometimes who love to make lies and gossip, I also get lucky and find true sweetheart girls that i shoot for a very long time.

This is what i see happening..... I was getting girls from craigslist at one point.
They would come do a shoot and get paid, then go shoot with other shooters and then all of a sudden , I have become a bad guy, but not until after they meet and shoot with producers who have way more than me. Like I have 1995 3000GT SL and this guy has 2008 Benz, so whatever he tells that model is golden, cause he has more. Nicer car , big house show more success, so that model will side with who she feels will benefit her greater! So what does that make her..??

I shoot boy/girl... Everyone knows that! No secret! So when i speak to model for the very first time on the phone before we even meet, she knows way ahead of time that i am paying and expect boy/girl performance. That model then shows up, answering an ad that clearly states , "Looking for girls 18 to 25 who are willing to perform boy/girl sex on video", she performs without hesitation, gets paid then leaves. Only for me to hear
how unprofessional I am for being the Camera man and talent or something stupid, because these NEW girls that I only shoot have no idea about POV. 40 something % of LA porn is all POV!! Why is that us in AZ get a bad rap for doing POV..?? Its ok for LA or Hollywood to do it, it is the way..lol OMG!!

I pay these girls , $1000 for SDA / $1200 for nubiles / $1000 to $2000 for FTV
These girls make more than I do for christ sake!! Why am i the bad guy here???
I paid Amai Miley the day she turned 18 $1500 for her very first solo shoot nubiles, she tried to rewrite the nubiles model release, we had a huge blow out cause she did not like the model release! WTF, Sign the release and get the fuck out! OR you don't get paid! She is the very first and only model to ever complain about a fucking model release during my shoots! That is the only model i have ever had a real problem with before she left my place after a shoot.

All the other models are influenced by other hater shooters. I have nothing to hide from anyone. I shoot good content, i deliver content. I will not deal with Craigslist tweakers anymore. I will only handpick them from ASU in person, fresh hot girls NO drug users!

People I found Lia19 , Remember??? I found several girls in this biz, how easily we all forget that i find the best talents for everyone to make money by...

If you let this guy Keeping it real , win I can go away and not bring anymore girls to the biz. I have been in the shadows bringing girls and you have not even known it for the longest time. I have been finding girls since 1995. Now I am known due to me launching my very own website. When I launched my site all the haters came forth.

When i was just a shooter for FTV and nubiles, Rob use to tell me that there are so many haters in this biz, you gotta watch out, I was thinking ok, everyone is out to get Rob ...lol
But now that I have my own site , I now feel what he goes through on a daily basis.
I am sorry Rob I doubted you for a second. You are so right! There are so many cut throats in this biz.

So again.... I am just a small guy trying to make great content for everyone and my site as well.... There is the truth.. You all have it now.....


You did not find Lia, bottom line, unless she comes in here and says so. I know because she is a friend of mine and have known her for a very long time.
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You did not find Lia, bottom line, unless she comes in here and says so. I know because she is a friend of mine and have known her for a very long time.
Dread Pirate Roberts:

< laughs > And what is that worth, the promise of a
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just kidding.. just kidding.... sorry.. it popped in to my head.

Love ya Lia... don't know ya, but love ya.
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You did not find Lia, bottom line, unless she comes in here and says so. I know because she is a friend of mine and have known her for a very long time.
Yes I did FIND lia19 I found her and introduced her to Rob in 2003 !! That is a fact!!

You ripped off Kristina Woods according to Ms Woods! Should I believe her..??

I am the only person who has BG of lia19, remember..?? It was shot long long before she became lia19. I was going to sell that content, but decided NOT to sell for the right reasons! You only know lia19 cause i introduced her to Rob, who then turned her into lia19.

I can post a RAW file of her performing BG with me, showing all original metadata, dates, time ect.. Now ask her and hopefull she will be truthful before I post a RAW file that i shot in early 2003 before i took her to FTV
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Just curious, I have always wondered. Wasn't Lia Ashley something or other way back when? Who shot that site?
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just kidding.. just kidding.... sorry.. it popped in to my head.

Love ya Lia... don't know ya, but love ya.
well look who the cat dragged in....LOL

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This is almost as fake as Jennas tits!!!!!! 2 cents .....Nice self promotion
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So who really found Lia19? I thought it was Niko Bimini

Wasn't she a lightspeed girl?
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Nope, i found her, now pleeeease some one come sue me if i am lying!!!!!!

Ha ha ha ha Niko had NOTHING to do with her when I found her from the day in early 2003. No she was NEVER a lightspeed girl, ask Setve himself and he will tell who found her.

I shot her in early 2003 performing boy/girl, then i took her to Rob later on, while she was deciding to shoot with Rob she shot the Ashley Ryan stuff during lia19 creation as well. Rob had more to offer her, see how that works out!
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well look who the cat dragged in....LOL

How ya doing today?
doin good. Haven't talked to you for a bit. How's trix?

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Wait a minute. Jenna has fake tits?!?!?!? My whole porn reality has just been shattered!
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