they can, and a few of them actually do.

After reading thread after thread about hosting issues I need to ask this.

If you have your own server or can justify buying one why don't you just colocate in a tier one provider? Rent rack space, buy bandwidth and what ever level of support your are willing to pay for. It works for us and has for years, if we are down for 5 minutes I call and get an answer. I doubt we have been down for an accumulated hour in the past year.

Why pay marked up prices for inferior support that you are upset about?

NO I am not selling hosting.

well, you can do that - but you're basically putting all of your eggs in one big basket then. say you colocated direct with verio, and verio had a problem with its pipes. well, you're down.

say you're colocated with a provider using verio, level3, tons of private peering, nationwide network, etc. say verio or level3 go down, you're still up.

there are definite advantages to going with a so-called "tier 2" provider.

Letshunt, you are trying too hard to make youself look knowledgeble but in the end you're full of shit. No further comment.

I am not in here to spam my services.

Just to add my two cents.

The reason why there is so much downtime in this industry is that adult webmasters do NOT want to spend any money to ensure stability and reliability.

Daily I am asked why I want to charge $99 for rental on a dedicated server. Can I skimp on some parts? perhaps include something used so it is cheaper?

Man, it drives me nuts.

A real world business says, we have a $10K budget and we demand a solution that will not experience downtime. And a decent host can work a $10K solution that will not go down. The adult webmaster wants the same solution with no upfront investment and no risk.

Go figure why so many hosts are having downtimes. It's hard to provide quality when your clients wont pay for it.

I only read the Tukhman posts.

FUCK YOU ALL!

I love TheFly!

And you wonder why I got out of virtual hosting. If I ever do get back into vhosting, I think I have to go with Lostmind who has the right approach. Do it right, and then you'll have all the success.

If I where to do it again, not that I am considering it...because I am not.....I would go with a 1 TB fiber channel storage and a fault tolerant cluster setup. At some point, some one will put together a solution for you guys that wouldn't go down. At $1.00-$2.00/gig, this type of a solution would work. If you take a look, $1.00/gig is $324/mbps. I wonder where all this money is going?

Virtual hosting is not too terribly hard. just keep adding servers as you add customers. Be prepared to migrate some customers to balance out loads.

:)

I have heard great things about swiftco.com and isprime.com as well. I was looking for lower bandwidth (3Mbps) and thumbserver won me over, otherwise I would have probably went with any one of the three. [/B][/QUOTE]

i think your refering to swiftco.net i host with them and they treat me like a king super fast network and never any downtime.
thanks henry for the great service.

If you want a host with gauranteed 5 minutes of downtime or less per YEAR then ICQ me. That's 99.999% garaunteed uptime. less than 30 seconds per month of downtime. I have had 0 minutes of downtime in 4 years.

It is not bullshit, because everything is redundant, right down to a generater for an alternative power supply. I shit you not. Yes, it costs more. No, it's not too expensive. Yes, you can sleep at night. 24/7/365 support and toll free telephone support. What else can you ask for? Yes, if I refer you, you can get you a deal. Talk to me on ICQ if you are interested.

I am so sick of hearing about all this bullshit downtime and everyone talks like it cannot be prevented, and it's 'best effort' as garauntees mean nothing. If you have a backup for everything and automatic switchover on failures, you have no downtime... So, it's not just the people who work there, it's the hardware itself that can prevent this.

When is this upgrade? I still see Yipes,
we were promised tier1.

| POS4-0.hsipaccess2.Philadelphia1.Level3.net |
| ge-6-2-1.mp2.Philadelphia1.level3.net |
| so-3-0-0.mp1.NewYork1.Level3.net |
| gigabitethernet2-2.core1.NewYork1.Level3.net |
| pos4-2.pr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net |
| so-3-0-0.cr1.lga1.us.mfnx.net |
| so-1-0-0.cr1.lga3.us.mfnx.net |
| 64.124.11.173.likewhoa.com |


MFN - Abovenet here as promised.......

trying it again?? You're not even 4 years in that bizz

how could this happen!

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