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FreeHugeMovies · 06-23-2009, 09:12 PM

I remember Perez was sued bc. he was stealing images without consent.

How does someone legally post these pictures? I see now he is giving credit, but what all needs to be done? I own a good celeb domain and always wanted to do this legally.

gwidomains · 06-23-2009, 11:05 PM

18k/mo in royalty fees.

JFK · 06-23-2009, 11:07 PM

ask KB

Intrinsic · 06-23-2009, 11:10 PM

scribble white words all over them, problem solved!

FreeHugeMovies · 06-24-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gwidomains

18k/mo in royalty fees.

Can't be serious with that!

FreeHugeMovies · 06-24-2009, 08:34 PM

bumpageeeee

gwidomains · 06-24-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Can't be serious with that!

absolutely serious.

E-mail x17 and ask them about subscriptions to the celeb pics and vids.
It is NOT cheap.

You can try to get away with snagging them...

WiredGuy · 06-24-2009, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gwidomains

18k/mo in royalty fees.

Court ordered or is Perez paying that fee to use their pics?
WG

06-24-2009, 09:47 PM

Hire some paparazzi. Or bust out the camera and start taking pics.

MetrixApps - Sean · 06-24-2009, 09:56 PM

good luck with it
its very competitive
its all about who u know who u pay out

FreeHugeMovies · 06-24-2009, 10:01 PM

Can't you just give credit? LOL

Young · 06-24-2009, 10:18 PM

If you're providing newsworthy commentary on the pictures then you might be able to get away with skirting copyright laws.....if you're drawing penis's on them you can forget about it.

d-null · 06-24-2009, 10:25 PM

http://www.gettyimages.com/Corporate/LicenseInfo.aspx

d-null · 06-24-2009, 10:29 PM

you can register to see pricing, I think one time use of a single 72dpi image starts around the $50 range

DK · 06-25-2009, 12:41 AM

ICQ me,
I'll point you were to get legal celeb pics starting around $5 a piece searchable by name.
I use it for my celebrity rag:

http://celebrityko.com/

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 06-25-2009, 12:43 AM

fair use

google it

hypedough · 06-25-2009, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Young

If you're providing newsworthy commentary on the pictures then you might be able to get away with skirting copyright laws.....if you're drawing penis's on them you can forget about it.

LOLz true story, no one is gonna be the next Perez. Shit even he's losing his 15 minutes quickly.

gwidomains · 06-25-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

Court ordered or is Perez paying that fee to use their pics?
WG

Nah, I think x17 can get triple the damages via copyright law -- so they hiked up the rates etc. This was before they were fully on the net, so they've set their "subscription" rates extraordinarily high.

For instance, if you look at omg.yahoo.com it is in partnership with x17

Getting the best photos is an expensive business.

BigRod · 06-25-2009, 02:29 AM

It is an expensive biz but the search traffic is sick even on a small site.

If you want to do it right hire a couple of photographers and make them employees. You don't want them going rogue when they get you your million dollar shot! You will get a lot of cease orders but all part of the fun.

HorseShit · 06-25-2009, 06:40 AM

hope you have deep pockets.

http://tinyurl.com/df98a76sd0f78a6sydfsadfasdfasd

FreeHugeMovies · 06-25-2009, 08:57 AM

Crazyness

Darrah · 07-01-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

I remember Perez was sued bc. he was stealing images without consent.

How does someone legally post these pictures? I see now he is giving credit, but what all needs to be done? I own a good celeb domain and always wanted to do this legally.

Are we talking about starting a new blog with no money; or do you have the money and it will be clearly obvious just by looking at the site?

If you have no money and starting off like any other new blogger, you can take whatever you want. Just link back and you should be fine for the most part. Perez's problem started with him never linking back & when they emailed him, he emailed back very nasty emails. He ruined it for everyone. X17 would let anyone take the tagged pictures. Now if they find you, you have to take it down. Only take it down when you get the official email.

These agencies know they need bloggers to promote their agencies. They let bloggers take their tagged images while they make their money selling images to the tabloids and television. They provide you with pictures while you provide them with traffic and backlinks.

Only a handful of blogs can now afford to pay for pictures: DListed, Hollywood Tuna, Just Jared, and just a couple more. But bloggers never pay full price for pictures when they can finally afford to pay. They get a blogger special. It's still a fortune but it is at a reduced rate if you're a blogger.

I don't even think X17 and Splash News allow even one picture used because of Perez Hilton. If you link back to them, have the link open a new window because you can't even backspace back into your site and your visitors might not come back.

Best bet would be to link back to the blogs that do pay for pictures. This way they get the backlinks while you can use their non-tagged pictures. If the blog says which agency they got it from, link back to the agency as the source and then say via whatever blog you got them from.

FreeHugeMovies · 07-01-2009, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrah

Are we talking about starting a new blog with no money; or do you have the money and it will be clearly obvious just by looking at the site?

If you have no money and starting off like any other new blogger, you can take whatever you want. Just link back and you should be fine for the most part. Perez's problem started with him never linking back & when they emailed him, he emailed back very nasty emails. He ruined it for everyone. X17 would let anyone take the tagged pictures. Now if they find you, you have to take it down. Only take it down when you get the official email.

These agencies know they need bloggers to promote their agencies. They let bloggers take their tagged images while they make their money selling images to the tabloids and television. They provide you with pictures while you provide them with traffic and backlinks.

Only a handful of blogs can now afford to pay for pictures: DListed, Hollywood Tuna, Just Jared, and just a couple more. But bloggers never pay full price for pictures when they can finally afford to pay. They get a blogger special. It's still a fortune but it is at a reduced rate if you're a blogger.

I don't even think X17 and Splash News allow even one picture used because of Perez Hilton. If you link back to them, have the link open a new window because you can't even backspace back into your site and your visitors might not come back.

Best bet would be to link back to the blogs that do pay for pictures. This way they get the backlinks while you can use their non-tagged pictures. If the blog says which agency they got it from, link back to the agency as the source and then say via whatever blog you got them from.

Great post, much appreciated.

matty · 07-01-2009, 08:42 AM

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seeandsee · 07-01-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

you can register to see pricing, I think one time use of a single 72dpi image starts around the $50 range

50$ interesting price

Darrah · 07-01-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Great post, much appreciated.

The key is to always link back. Forgot to say be careful with taking pictures from People Magazine. The big stories where they paid millions for the pictures, I know bloggers that had their blogs shut down by the host. Blogs at Blogger also had staff go into their blogs and take out the pictures. Blogger staff?! And my friends were never even told by Blogger that they went into their blogs taking out the pictures.

crockett · 07-01-2009, 10:53 AM

Is there any actual fair use in this kind of thing if you are reporting as news or as satire?

d-null · 07-01-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

Great post, much appreciated.

... and if you take legal advice from some dude that typed up a "great post" on the internet, then I guess you don't have much to lose

pmspinner · 07-01-2009, 11:58 AM

Two killer sources of celeb pics are

1. Mugshots - those are public domain ;)

2. World Entertainment News Network - Google it for their url I'm too new to be trusted ;) - they offer news and pictures that you can offer for a reasonable price

fris · 07-01-2009, 12:03 PM

http://www.wireimage.com/Default.aspx

Darrah · 07-01-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

... and if you take legal advice from some dude that typed up a "great post" on the internet, then I guess you don't have much to lose

I'm not a dude!

And I've been around celebrity sites for many years to know how it's handled and done.

Darrah · 07-01-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Is there any actual fair use in this kind of thing if you are reporting as news or as satire?

Perez was usually satire and drawing penises on pictures. But he never linked back to the source and replied back to their emails in a nasty manner.

getmouthy · 07-01-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

If you're providing newsworthy commentary on the pictures then you might be able to get away with skirting copyright laws.....if you're drawing penis's on them you can forget about it.

couldn't have said it better

matty · 07-01-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pmspinner

Two killer sources of celeb pics are

1. Mugshots - those are public domain ;)

2. World Entertainment News Network - Google it for their url I'm too new to be trusted ;) - they offer news and pictures that you can offer for a reasonable price

FYI: Right out of World Entertainment News Network's disclaimer...

"Our site includes a combination of content that we create, that our partners create, and that our users create. All materials published on our site, including, but not limited to, written content, photographs, graphics, images, illustrations, marks, logos, sound or video clips, and Flash animation, are protected by our copyrights or trademarks or those of our partners. You may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce, create derivative works of, distribute, publicly perform, publicly display, or in any way exploit any of the materials or content on our site in whole or in part. "

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Consequently. Right out of WireImage.com's Terms...

"Use of the Site and Content
This Site and the WireImage Content are intended for customers of WireImage. You may not use this Site or the WireImage Content for any purpose not related to your business with WireImage. You are specifically prohibited from: (a) downloading, copying, or re-transmitting any or all of the Site or the WireImage Content without, or in violation of, a written license or agreement with WireImage; (b) using any data mining, robots or similar data gathering or extraction methods; (c) manipulating or otherwise displaying the Site or the WireImage Content by using framing or similar navigational technology; (d) registering, subscribing, unsubscribing, or attempting to register, subscribe, or unsubscribe any party for any WireImage product or service if you are not expressly authorized by such party to do so; and (e) using the Site or the WireImage Content other than for its intended purpose. Such unauthorized use may also violate applicable laws including without limitation copyright and trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and applicable communications regulations and statutes."

Barefootsies · 07-01-2009, 02:12 PM

96ukssob · 07-01-2009, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

I remember Perez was sued bc. he was stealing images without consent.

How does someone legally post these pictures? I see now he is giving credit, but what all needs to be done? I own a good celeb domain and always wanted to do this legally.

step 1: move to Russia

problem solved

Penrod · 07-01-2009, 02:20 PM

www.hollywoodgossip.com is for sale. Make an offer.

matty · 07-01-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bossku69

step 1: move to Russia

problem solved

ORRRR. Here's a shocker, get a camera and camp out in hollywood. SHOOT don't STEAL.

Last thing you want is Alyssa Milano's mom & lawyer calling you (Been there, done that).

Nicky · 07-01-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Penrod

www.hollywoodgossip.com is for sale. Make an offer.

Not a bad domain I must say.

Young · 07-01-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Darrah

Now if they find you, you have to take it down. Only take it down when you get the official email.

And yet we wonder how the Tube sites get away with the shit they do?

Darrah · 07-01-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

And yet we wonder how the Tube sites get away with the shit they do?

Most bloggers will take down the pictures when the first email comes. They're scared and actually believe they'll be sued. They're posting a few pictures. Not burning an entire movie.

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