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12clicks 07-10-2009 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16049353)
you are so huge company, i can't believe you don't track your overall-total ratios and don't see a decrease in the sales and declining ratio?

what I find interesting is that you're doing "test transactions" on sites you don't own.
and you're wondering why your card is being declined?

commonsense 07-10-2009 05:50 AM

Are all you jackasses selling the same things? Haven't seen any declines at all.

Sales are UP :2 cents:

Klen 07-10-2009 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 16049577)
Are all you jackasses selling the same things? Haven't seen any declines at all.

Sales are UP :2 cents:

Maybe you promote sponsors with vsxbill proccessor.

Matyko 07-10-2009 08:53 AM

Everything rocks since 3rd July. My sales are like near Xmas !!! :)

nickutis 07-10-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16049574)
what I find interesting is that you're doing "test transactions" on sites you don't own.
and you're wondering why your card is being declined?

are you saying i have to be a site owner to get my card approved? Ghmm how do other surfers joins site then?

nikki99 07-10-2009 02:00 PM

:Oh crap:Oh crap:Oh crap

femdomdestiny 07-10-2009 02:04 PM

hey
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16049353)
you are so huge company, i can't believe you don't track your overall-total ratios and don't see a decrease in the sales and declining ratio?

It is true that ccbill is biggest and have best sites, but ratios jumped for me.I know that it is 10 th july today, but just compare conversions. Print screen taken from my nifty stats for july. There must be other people seeing this. Personally, I don't have a problem, but it would be ok that CCbill finally tell us what's their plan and for how long they will continue to reject cards?(if that is a problem). thanks

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nickutis 07-11-2009 03:01 AM

http://www.adultwebmasteraffiliate.com/forums/down.jpg
Somebody please explain why 192 sponsors at the same day started to convert at least 2x worse ?

July 9th and july 10th - wtf?

SBJ 07-11-2009 03:15 AM

there is nothing wrong with ccbill that is for sure! My sales have been amazing this week from my newest site and it is mainly affiliate sales since the site is too new to get that much direct traffic.

My tgps that are 90% ccbill sites are the same as they have been week in and week out too.

12clicks 07-11-2009 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16051036)
are you saying i have to be a site owner to get my card approved? Ghmm how do other surfers joins site then?

man, you're a bit clueless.

nickutis 07-11-2009 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 16052997)
man, you're a bit clueless.

yes sir, please explain to the dork.

TheDoc 07-11-2009 06:44 AM

Have you called your bank yet to see why the card is being declined?

With this many failed attempts now, my card here would be shut off.


It's not ccbill/epoch... It's the banks. The banks control your declines. If the guy is putting the info in correctly, address/zip and card are real... CCBill is going to approve that card - the question is, will the bank?


Those days your sales dropped, it could have been major Internet issues, or when NK started to DDOS everyone or it could be MJ or it could be a big storm that is going across the states.

Hell, one of the banks could have been down. That happens too.

Barefootsies 07-11-2009 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16005365)
I just tried to signup on another sponsor, wich let's you to choose wich processor should bill customer

EPOCH --- VISA and MC declined
CCBILL --- VISA and MC declined
NETCASH - VISA and MC declined
SEGPAY -- VISA declined, MC approved

To make the situation even worse, sponsor didn't counted this sale, LOL..

Goddamn! Call da black Jesus.
:disgust

Dirty Dane 07-15-2009 05:43 PM

Did someone push the button again? Sales and rebills were ok again, and suddenly... nada?

Angelslinks 09-17-2009 08:43 PM

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people point at ccbill imo because they are the biggest
No, because many webmasters have their sites built up on 90% ccbill sponsors and the like.

I am experience 0 sales everyday since the beginning of September, and this while my non-ccbill sponsors works very good with ratios like 1:200 and such.

Why would the bank decline sales coming from ccbill only and not NATS sponsors?

ajrocks 09-18-2009 09:38 AM

Chances are you triggered fraud scrubbing with the billing company. Did you use the same computer to register to the affilaite program as you used for the test sign ups? Most cases that will get the transactions blocked. This is to prevent affiliates from running trial scams and such.

hawkadu 09-22-2009 07:27 AM

CCBill sucks ass really. Making sales with ccbill is getting nightmare everyday and nobody from ccbill is ready to say anything about their scrubbing.

HEAT 09-22-2009 08:14 AM

It's simple.
Cross sales hell ----> tons of chargebacks and complaints ---> Banks are auto declining transactions from adult billers.
We(billers, sponsors and affiliates) are all responsible.

SwirlsGirl 09-22-2009 10:44 AM

Look those that know don't tell, and those that tell don't know... Although ccbill has a solid reputation and is quite professional, their scrubbing that they will deny to the end is quite a nuisance because of its inconsistency.

We all see the spikes and drops and we all have been studying and analyzing our stats for years and we know that when you have new updates you get a flurry in sales.

So to have hot new updates with increased traffic, and increased join from hits, but near zero sales... c'mon it is painfully obvious to all of us whats going on.

I have seen many threads from webmasters with good cards being denied (mainly thru ccbill) then they come here post about it and get the typical tired response time after time..." we will look into it....why would we scrub to decrease sales.... " its down right insulting.

Not too mention the refunds, chargebacks,voids etc. are doubling and tripling and there does not appear to be any reversal of this trend anytime soon.

Besides just look at Verotel, I have processed between 20-30 sales with them for 2009 and have not received one nickel, nor have I received a return email, or return phone call.

I still see verotel advertising with huge banners on adult industry forums, I mean its like the twilight zone.

So its clear that things are dire and just about everyone is in survival mode, having to do what it takes to pay their own overhead even if it means stiffing merchants.

I don't have any answers but I would be a fool to act oblivious to whats going on.

Sure you could try to get a merchant account to process subscriptions but who is in a position to jump through all of the hoola hoops they require. $1500.00 set up fee... shitload of paperwork...thumbscan...blood sample...etc LOL

diablom 02-25-2010 03:55 AM

I know I raised an old thread, but I think it is time to discuss bank scrub once again. I see worse situation every month since last summer. Ratios are high as never. I tried to join some different paysites using valid VISA and it was always declined. Maybe we may do something about that, or just wait until banks go normal again.

quantum-x 02-25-2010 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by diablom (Post 16893649)
I know I raised an old thread, but I think it is time to discuss bank scrub once again. I see worse situation every month since last summer. Ratios are high as never. I tried to join some different paysites using valid VISA and it was always declined. Maybe we may do something about that, or just wait until banks go normal again.

Call YOUR bank. 85% of the time, it's your bank that declines the card. My bank regularly declines transactions that could be porn/gambling/high-risk


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