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Slappin Fish 06-27-2009 05:06 AM

It isn't ccbill or porn only.

I tried to load some funds to my moniker account.

MC on file at Moniker, used it for the past few years - declined
Another two VISA and one MC in my name - declined

What the fuck is going on :(

nickutis 06-27-2009 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 16005406)
It isn't ccbill or porn only.

I tried to load some funds to my moniker account.

MC on file at Moniker, used it for the past few years - declined
Another two VISA and one MC in my name - declined

What the fuck is going on :(

well i just paid for the domain names on namecheap with the same VISA that was declined by all porn merchants (CCBILL, epoch, netcash, segpay)

Ramp 06-27-2009 05:19 AM

I just also used my cc to renew my domains at namecheap. all went good.

Slappin Fish 06-27-2009 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16005410)
well i just paid for the domain names on namecheap with the same VISA that was declined by all porn merchants (CCBILL, epoch, netcash, segpay)

I also successfully paid another registrar with the cards that where declined at moniker.

But when I went to pay for hosting at Choopa, all declined again. :(

There cards had never been declined before, not once. Not saying everybody is declining cards, but something strange beyond porn is going on...

Dirty Dane 06-27-2009 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16005410)
well i just paid for the domain names on namecheap with the same VISA that was declined by all porn merchants (CCBILL, epoch, netcash, segpay)

Same here. Had some domains for renewal, and now I got really worried. :1orglaugh
I also did a test signup, but with no cc decline. Maybe because no one commit fraud here :winkwink:

Shoplifter 06-27-2009 06:59 AM

This was also covered in this thread about a week ago in more detail:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=910638

Signup declines are a bitch, but declined rebills are making me nuts.

femdomdestiny 06-27-2009 08:23 AM

CCbill
 
Why somoone from CCbill don't say something?

Agent 488 06-27-2009 08:31 AM

with 10% of cards now in default and the number to climb by the end of the year maybe banks are declining charges they think are high risk?

hawkadu 06-27-2009 09:26 AM

another bullshit day with ccbill in progress. wtf has happened to all sponsors. dunno :mad::mad::mad:

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 06-27-2009 09:28 AM

i like pie

Matyko 06-27-2009 11:06 AM

-=- 50 scrubbing -=-

SpicyM 06-27-2009 11:41 AM

I got an email from a surfer on one of my AVS sites, he is claiming he cant join, tried several times in different days, his CC (Visa) gets always declined... fuck! :mad:

BVF 06-27-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 16005649)
Why somoone from CCbill don't say something?

What the fuck are they supposed to say? What could they say to make YOU feel better about your sales?...

Fuck man....Shit happens....There are some sites that won't take my card ever and they're not adult sites...

Sales are down for other reasons besides some foreigners cards being declined....

nickutis 06-27-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF (Post 16005998)
Sales are down for other reasons besides some foreigners cards being declined....


Don't know about you man, but those "foreigners" were 1/3 of my customers, and now they can't buy memberships.. That's why ratios decreased so much. From the sponsors stats (which have ability to show me country of subscription), from 21th day i see only US subscriptions. Sponsor uses epoch as main billing, so that's a pretty big problem for people, you know. There are still lot's of people who are willing to pay for porn membership.. But if we will not allow them to do that, they will just join army of tubers and torrenters

Ramp 06-27-2009 12:58 PM

I did some tests too

I managed to get 2 membership of 3 sites.

bdld 06-27-2009 01:50 PM

yeah that was the exact date sales started decreasing, it has to be a billing issue.

signbucks 06-27-2009 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 16001857)
Sponsors, affiliates, please confirm or comment, this is much more serious than any MJ threads... So far everybody confirmed to me that 20th was last "good" day, and as of 21th everything went pure shit...

We are doomed!!! :P

the same here
20 - ok
21 - almost nothing
22 - ok

Blackamooka 06-27-2009 02:13 PM

My ratios didn't start going to shit until the 24th. Same exact thing happened last month too.

greg80 06-27-2009 02:31 PM

deamn.... I have same problem, since 20th sales are way down. And my sponsor also has multiple processors

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16005365)
I just tried to signup on another sponsor, wich let's you to choose wich processor should bill customer

EPOCH --- VISA and MC declined
CCBILL --- VISA and MC declined
NETCASH - VISA and MC declined
SEGPAY -- VISA declined, MC approved

To make the situation even worse, sponsor didn't counted this sale, LOL..


korke 06-28-2009 12:11 AM

bump for bump

greg1 06-28-2009 03:57 AM

bump +10000

SteveHardeman 06-28-2009 11:51 AM

My program runs on CCBill.

I just ran some reports on declines for the period of 6/14 thru 6/20 and then 6/21 thru 6/27.

They're almost identical. Both in actual numbers and in % of total attempts. No material difference. I'm just one program but those are our stats.

~Ray 06-28-2009 12:12 PM

maybe you don't get credit for check sales and they are making people go through that gateway?

maybe they are scrubbing "non english" countries to their own referral codes.

read their TOS and look for updates.

Jay-Rock 06-28-2009 01:10 PM

Sucks man I didn't even make enough to cover my hosting bill this month. After bandwidth cost, affiliates, & splitting my profit with the model. There is nothing left.

This industry is doomed if this keeps up.

tonyparra 06-28-2009 01:17 PM

High ratios? Didnt notice sorry. Im doing 1:27.2 this month. Thanks for yous time.

nickutis 06-29-2009 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyparra (Post 16008541)
High ratios? Didnt notice sorry. Im doing 1:27.2 this month. Thanks for yous time.

well my AVS program shows im converting 1:50 and better, but hey - it only shows join clicks, and in reality it's more like 1:3000+ sale to unique

alias 06-29-2009 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickutis (Post 16005365)
I just tried to signup on another sponsor, wich let's you to choose wich processor should bill customer

EPOCH --- VISA and MC declined
CCBILL --- VISA and MC declined
NETCASH - VISA and MC declined
SEGPAY -- VISA declined, MC approved

To make the situation even worse, sponsor didn't counted this sale, LOL..

Good times! :disgust

alias 06-29-2009 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16008520)
Sucks man I didn't even make enough to cover my hosting bill this month. After bandwidth cost, affiliates, & splitting my profit with the model. There is nothing left.

This industry is doomed if this keeps up.

Fucking ouch.

DWB 06-29-2009 01:47 AM

I stopped trying to join porn sites for 2 reasons:

1) No reason to pay anymore, I can get it all for free.
2) None of the billers will take my CC anymore. No idea why. Fuck 'em.

alias 06-29-2009 01:55 AM

This is a major issue.

Diomed 06-29-2009 01:58 AM

Keep an eye on those test joins that went through,

you can bet your sweet ass in times like these some programs are trying to make up for lost ground by resorting to shady billing tactics and unauthorized charges.. and no not the usual suspects either.

bdeforest 06-29-2009 04:38 AM

I know a few US banks that are auto declining transactions, either because they are high risk, or they are being processed outside of the US. I suspect part of this is being caused by the US forcing all internet gambling off shore. This is just another reason on top of every other reason that credit card declines are getting worse.

skeet 06-29-2009 11:41 AM

too many xsells, too many calls to the issuing banks. All of a sudden issuers start scrubbing hard. This type of activity will effect all IPSP merchants.

Also, not to mention the credit card defaults are climbing. Higher scrubs...

Does any one remember then AMEX stopped processing for adult IPSPs? I know why and I know it for a fact. too many calls the the AMEX call center about iBill and CCBILL charges and not being able to tie the charges to a URL with out contacting the merchant. Card holders where overloading the call center. I know/knew some of the people in the call center at AMEX when it all went down.

webmasterchecks 06-29-2009 02:36 PM

its not about ccbill, people point at ccbill imo because they are the biggest

the credit card industry has tighted up a lot in recent months, i think the toll on consumers is showing

d-null 06-29-2009 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16008520)
Sucks man I didn't even make enough to cover my hosting bill this month. After bandwidth cost, affiliates, & splitting my profit with the model. There is nothing left.

This industry is doomed if this keeps up.

sorry to hear.... wish I could say 'hang in there, things will get better for the industry'

corvette 06-29-2009 02:47 PM

Hi, because our name was mentioned, if anyone notices any issues with their decline stats, sales issues, etc, please do not hesitate to contact our client support department or [email protected]

We will immediately investigate and get back to you

-Mark
45471840

BVF 06-29-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay-Rock (Post 16008520)
Sucks man I didn't even make enough to cover my hosting bill this month. After bandwidth cost, affiliates, & splitting my profit with the model. There is nothing left.

This industry is doomed if this keeps up.


Damn man and your content is good too.....

However, since you are a content shooter and not just an affiliate, I must remind you of two words that you must constantly run your business by....They are:

1. More
2. New

In good times and in bad, keep bringing the new girls....You should be just like the Mailman when it comes to content....And since day one, I have lived by the two words and this motto:

"Neither rain, nor sleet, nor snow, nor wind, nor dead of night will keep me from bringing more new hoes"

You do that and somehow, someway, you'll figure out a way to eat...

nickutis 07-10-2009 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette (Post 16012106)
Hi, because our name was mentioned, if anyone notices any issues with their decline stats, sales issues, etc, please do not hesitate to contact our client support department or [email protected]

We will immediately investigate and get back to you

-Mark
45471840

you are so huge company, i can't believe you don't track your overall-total ratios and don't see a decrease in the sales and declining ratio?

Fucksakes 07-10-2009 05:36 AM

I went from making 1:500 to 1:10,000

normally making 10-40$ a sale, latly I am making 1 sale a day. compared to 15-20.

and this happened all of a sudden aound the time you claim.

12clicks 07-10-2009 05:43 AM

if any of you want a job taking care of my lawn, I'm a little pissed at the company that does it now.

from the guess work and comments from most of you, it doesn't seem like you're cut out for porn


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