Intelligence or persistence equals success? - GoFuckYourself.com

Shaggy · 12-01-2002, 02:12 AM

To those making over 20k a month. What do you think helped you the most towards success.

1. You are just a prick that's a cut above the rest in intelligence.

or

2. You are just a persistent bastard who wouldn't take failure for an answer.

I say it's number 2. Let's hear it.

sextoyking · 12-01-2002, 02:14 AM

Shaggy,

good question.

Mostly #2, lots of hard work, networking, etc. of course starting in 1994 on usenet didn't hurt either.

there have been times that #1 came in also. I hate the asshole look though

)

happy holidays

todd

quiet · 12-01-2002, 02:18 AM

all the crucial decisions. number 1.

everything else. number 2.

number 1 always guides number 2 in my experience.

EscortBiz · 12-01-2002, 02:20 AM

1 with out the other is worthless

sextoyking · 12-01-2002, 02:21 AM

Touche Quiet.

well in the old days, #1 did come in to play quite a bit more. But after all these years, I like less piss, and more fun

horns · 12-01-2002, 02:24 AM

Benjamin Franklin said:

Quote:

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

I concur

Shaggy · 12-01-2002, 02:27 AM

well quiet, how many times did you fail until you got it right?

drunkdollars · 12-01-2002, 02:27 AM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Shaggy,

good question.

Mostly #2, lots of hard work, networking, etc. of course starting in 1994 on usenet didn't hurt either.

there have been times that #1 came in also. I hate the asshole look though )

happy holidays

todd

Good banners thanks todd

quiet · 12-01-2002, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by Shaggy
well quiet, how many times did you fail until you got it right?

in adult internet? never. started out small, and grew consistently for 7 years.

EscortBiz · 12-01-2002, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by horns
Benjamin Franklin said:

I concur

I hate old qutes so many do not apply in these days, every fuck I know that likes these old farts qutes does not have 2 pennies to rub together

Just work your ass off and don't lie to yourself and you'll make it sooner or later <-- Not a quote

sextoyking · 12-01-2002, 02:30 AM

Simon / Drunk,

thanks for the comments bro!!!

Our banner guys try and do these best they can for each and every customer

New portfolio update in a few days.

I think 200+ new sites to be added, and thousands of banners, ads.

Happy Holidays to the Drunk Dollars crew

sextoyking · 12-01-2002, 02:34 AM

Yeppers,

in any business, just put your time in, lots of hard work, you will make it usually.

They say most sucessfull business ppl do fail at different ventures in there life.

That is really true, in the 90's we had computer stores, etc. But they never did so well, paid the bills, but not much else.

But when our bbs grew to 60 lines (adult) in 1993, and then we got very big into retail / wholesale adult cdroms, wow, porn was much more fun, great profit margins, easier to work with

it's all about how you go about your business ways. if you always try and be a straight shooter, honest as possible, network as good as you can, you will do ok..

horns · 12-01-2002, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz

I hate old qutes so many do not apply in these days, every fuck I know that likes these old farts qutes does not have 2 pennies to rub together

Isn't that an old quote?

Shaggy · 12-01-2002, 02:41 AM

i think the case may differ with the internet though. Back in the early days things were simple. You had a store, you advertised and people would buy things.

On the internet you have to worry about a lot more technical things. If someone is using some script to fuck you, if your being hotlinked, etc, etc, etc.

Plus the difference between different sources of traffic. The list goes on and on.

I find it hard to beleive that anyone has had true success without their fair share of failures. I for one, have failed at things more times than I can count. But I am finally reaching the point where I feel successful.

It makes me wonder what kind of breed will make it in this biz.

quiet · 12-01-2002, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaggy
I find it hard to beleive that anyone has had true success without their fair share of failures.

like i've said many times: i learned html in university. started with avs in 96. moved to paysites in 97. consistently grew from that time on, until present.

i'm retiring Oct 1st of next year. weeee.

sextoyking · 12-01-2002, 02:46 AM

Shaggy,

you sound like you evaluate things good, your head is probably on straight enough, you will make it.

There is not many sucessful biz ppl that have not failed in someway 1 or more times in there life.

I mean a failure could be coming out with a new project / affiliate program, software, etc and it just not making it like they thought it would.

Even most of the top 20 ppl in the adult net have gone through this, I do biz with most of these ppl, and I know how it goes.

You just have to take the failure, or mistake, learn from it, and drive on..

Business is easy if you set your mindset right;))

EscortBiz · 12-01-2002, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by horns

Isn't that an old quote?

lol you know what I meant!

horns · 12-01-2002, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shaggy
i think the case may differ with the internet though. Back in the early days things were simple. You had a store, you advertised and people would buy things.

On the internet you have to worry about a lot more technical things. If someone is using some script to fuck you, if your being hotlinked, etc, etc, etc.

Tens of thousands of idiots who never could have started their own business have been able to do so because of the internet. To say that an internet store is more complicated than a "real" one is naive.

Sambuka · 12-01-2002, 02:59 AM

If you started in 96 then you'd have to be a brain dead loser not to be wealthly by now. There was no losing back then it was just pure profit, free traffic. people didn't know that traffic = money. I mean my first day opening my site I got sent 80 k a day every day from one of the major sites of that time. that was 97. Just wish I didn't have a 2 year break from 99-02. But burnout brings new clarity.

Sammy

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Touche Quiet. well in the old days, #1 did come in to play quite a bit more. But after all these years, I like less piss, and more fun __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

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sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Simon / Drunk, thanks for the comments bro!!! Our banner guys try and do these best they can for each and every customer New portfolio update in a few days. I think 200+ new sites to be added, and thousands of banners, ads. Happy Holidays to the Drunk Dollars crew __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

12-01-2002, 02:34 AM	#12
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Yeppers, in any business, just put your time in, lots of hard work, you will make it usually. They say most sucessfull business ppl do fail at different ventures in there life. That is really true, in the 90's we had computer stores, etc. But they never did so well, paid the bills, but not much else. But when our bbs grew to 60 lines (adult) in 1993, and then we got very big into retail / wholesale adult cdroms, wow, porn was much more fun, great profit margins, easier to work with it's all about how you go about your business ways. if you always try and be a straight shooter, honest as possible, network as good as you can, you will do ok.. __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

12-01-2002, 02:46 AM	#16
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Shaggy, you sound like you evaluate things good, your head is probably on straight enough, you will make it. There is not many sucessful biz ppl that have not failed in someway 1 or more times in there life. I mean a failure could be coming out with a new project / affiliate program, software, etc and it just not making it like they thought it would. Even most of the top 20 ppl in the adult net have gone through this, I do biz with most of these ppl, and I know how it goes. You just have to take the failure, or mistake, learn from it, and drive on.. Business is easy if you set your mindset right;)) __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

12-01-2002, 02:12 AM	#1
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	Intelligence or persistence equals success? To those making over 20k a month. What do you think helped you the most towards success. 1. You are just a prick that's a cut above the rest in intelligence. or 2. You are just a persistent bastard who wouldn't take failure for an answer. I say it's number 2. Let's hear it.

12-01-2002, 02:14 AM	#2
sextoyking Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 6,034	Shaggy, good question. Mostly #2, lots of hard work, networking, etc. of course starting in 1994 on usenet didn't hurt either. there have been times that #1 came in also. I hate the asshole look though ) happy holidays todd __________________ ICQ: 52344098 -------------------------------------- 50% Commissions on all Product Sales. http://www.wishing.com/money

12-01-2002, 02:18 AM	#3
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	all the crucial decisions. number 1. everything else. number 2. number 1 always guides number 2 in my experience.

12-01-2002, 02:27 AM	#7
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	well quiet, how many times did you fail until you got it right?

12-01-2002, 02:41 AM	#14
Shaggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 570	i think the case may differ with the internet though. Back in the early days things were simple. You had a store, you advertised and people would buy things. On the internet you have to worry about a lot more technical things. If someone is using some script to fuck you, if your being hotlinked, etc, etc, etc. Plus the difference between different sources of traffic. The list goes on and on. I find it hard to beleive that anyone has had true success without their fair share of failures. I for one, have failed at things more times than I can count. But I am finally reaching the point where I feel successful. It makes me wonder what kind of breed will make it in this biz.

12-01-2002, 02:59 AM	#19
Sambuka Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: - Posts: 500	If you started in 96 then you'd have to be a brain dead loser not to be wealthly by now. There was no losing back then it was just pure profit, free traffic. people didn't know that traffic = money. I mean my first day opening my site I got sent 80 k a day every day from one of the major sites of that time. that was 97. Just wish I didn't have a 2 year break from 99-02. But burnout brings new clarity. Sammy