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HQ · 11-28-2002, 07:28 PM

Are these the same car or what? They both have their own official sites:

http://www.speedster.opel.com/
http://www.vauxhallvx220.com/

...and where can I get one of these in US/Canada?!

11-28-2002, 07:29 PM

Vauxhall & Opel are the same company. I don't think they are being exported to the US ...

HQ · 11-28-2002, 07:31 PM

Too bad... NFSHP2 has made me fall in love with them. Why do the market them as two different cars?

HQ · 11-28-2002, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Equinox
Vauxhall & Opel are the same company. I don't think they are being exported to the US ...

I know that Lotus had something to do with their production too.

HQ · 11-28-2002, 07:35 PM

http://www.elises.co.uk/models/vx220/

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Vauxhall VX220 / Opel Speedster
Whatever your views on this car it is an Elise variant built by Lotus and shares the same set of core values and attributes. In years to come it will be regarded as a Lotus. Look past the badge and you have a genuine Lotus sports car.

Rochard · 11-28-2002, 11:03 PM

It's common for car companies to market cars in different ways. In the US we have both the Doge Neon and the Plymouth Neon - Same car, and really the same company.

I remember during my visit to Europe a while back we rented a Ford that had a different name than it did in the US.

I've also heard that the Dodge Viper is sold as the Plymoth Viper in Europe.....

marty · 11-28-2002, 11:56 PM

General Motors - US
Opel - Germany
Vauxhall - UK
Holden - Australia

These are all the same company. They have some slight differences in the range depending on markets but they share the same designs. You can sometimes see that in their TV commercials (overseas model shown).

marty · 11-28-2002, 11:58 PM

That is such a Lotus Elise ripoff. I used to have one.

HQ · 11-29-2002, 06:33 AM

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Originally posted by marty
That is such a Lotus Elise ripoff. I used to have one.

That is becuase Lotus helped build it (or maybe Lotus is owned by the same company that owns al the companies you mentioned).

How was your Lotus?

mrthumbs · 11-29-2002, 06:35 AM

it's not a lotus rip-off.. it was designed by Lotus and branded Opel..

Juge · 11-29-2002, 06:35 AM

That car looks wicked. I've read somewhere that if you change all but 146 parts that you have a Lotus Elise... so they must be very similar on the inside.

railz · 11-29-2002, 06:41 AM

Wow - a lotus marketed and built by Vauxhall & Opel.

What's next? A Porsche built by Fiat?

(fondly remembers his old Fiat Strada...)

J B · 11-29-2002, 06:59 AM

The Speedster might look nice on pictures but in reality it looks like a toy car... and 215 km/h (133 mph) top speed is kind of ridiculous for a sports car, at least when you live in Germany

Roald · 11-29-2002, 07:51 AM

I like the model, only problem with it is getting into it, damn and when I was in it I hardly couldn't get out of it

Q.

railz · 11-29-2002, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by QuaShe
I like the model, only problem with it is getting into it, damn and when I was in it I hardly couldn't get out of it

Q.

Sounds like a plus to me...

Just make sure you give lots of girls with short skirts a ride in it, and open the door for them to get out.

Who said chivalry was dead?

Roald · 11-29-2002, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by railz

Sounds like a plus to me...

Just make sure you give lots of girls with short skirts a ride in it, and open the door for them to get out.

Who said chivalry was dead?

Okay I'll take it

mrthumbs · 11-29-2002, 08:15 AM

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Originally posted by J B
The Speedster might look nice on pictures but in reality it looks like a toy car... and 215 km/h (133 mph) top speed is kind of ridiculous for a sports car, at least when you live in Germany

true

Juge · 11-29-2002, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by J B
The Speedster might look nice on pictures but in reality it looks like a toy car... and 215 km/h (133 mph) top speed is kind of ridiculous for a sports car, at least when you live in Germany

Yes, but it still gets to 60 mph in under 6 seconds, and only has a 140 hp engine, so that's pretty damned good. If the price is cheap, then this is all justifiable... how expensive is it?

J B · 11-29-2002, 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Juge
Yes, but it still gets to 60 mph in under 6 seconds, and only has a 140 hp engine, so that's pretty damned good. If the price is cheap, then this is all justifiable... how expensive is it?

It's about 35K...

HQ · 11-29-2002, 11:00 AM

I just like its originality. Even though it looks like an Elise, I have never seen anything like it before in my town.

Juge · 11-29-2002, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by J B

It's about 35K...

I assume you mean US$? That's quite expensive...

volante · 11-29-2002, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by mrthumbs
it's not a lotus rip-off.. it was designed by Lotus and branded Opel..

When it was first released, the motoring press (in the UK at least) thought it was fantastic, better than the Elise and kept saying "what are Lotus doing by building a car better than the Elise for a different company? Are they mad?".

A few months later Lotus released the MkII Elise, which was regarded as even better than the Speedster/VX220.

GM were not pleased....

J B · 11-29-2002, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by Juge
I assume you mean US$? That's quite expensive...

Actually I meant Euro but the exchange rate is almost 1:1

HQ · 11-29-2002, 11:23 AM

...or $50k+ Canadian. I'd go for the Nissan 350Z instead.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 11-29-2002, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by RocHard

I remember during my visit to Europe a while back we rented a Ford that had a different name than it did in the US.

Merkur ???

Kat - Fast · 11-29-2002, 12:38 PM

http://buypower.vauxhall.co.uk/showr...ds&brand=VX220 £22k on the road

Fro · 11-29-2002, 12:56 PM

How about a Pontiac Solstice?

Fugly. But, it could be pretty fun to drive.

JFK · 11-29-2002, 01:53 PM

How about these, check em out , especially the new models ! Neat stuff !
http://www.smartcar.com

HQ · 11-29-2002, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Kat
http://buypower.vauxhall.co.uk/showr...ds&brand=VX220 £22k on the road

£22k = ??? USD ?

J B · 11-29-2002, 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by HQ

£22k = ??? USD ?

£22K = $34.3K

seems like my $35K were pretty close... I guess it depends on the extras you want...

xroach · 11-29-2002, 06:41 PM

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Originally posted by HQ
Are these the same car or what? They both have their own official sites:

http://www.speedster.opel.com/
http://www.vauxhallvx220.com/

...and where can I get one of these in US/Canada?!

if you can afford that car, you can afford to have it shipped

11-28-2002, 07:28 PM	#1
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Vauxhall VX220 / Opel Speedster Are these the same car or what? They both have their own official sites: http://www.speedster.opel.com/ http://www.vauxhallvx220.com/ ...and where can I get one of these in US/Canada?!

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X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Vauxhall & Opel are the same company. I don't think they are being exported to the US ...

11-28-2002, 07:31 PM	#3
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Too bad... NFSHP2 has made me fall in love with them. Why do the market them as two different cars?

11-28-2002, 11:56 PM	#7
marty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,656	General Motors - US Opel - Germany Vauxhall - UK Holden - Australia These are all the same company. They have some slight differences in the range depending on markets but they share the same designs. You can sometimes see that in their TV commercials (overseas model shown).

11-28-2002, 11:58 PM	#8
marty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,656	That is such a Lotus Elise ripoff. I used to have one.

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mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	it's not a lotus rip-off.. it was designed by Lotus and branded Opel..

11-29-2002, 06:35 AM	#11
Juge Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,917	That car looks wicked. I've read somewhere that if you change all but 146 parts that you have a Lotus Elise... so they must be very similar on the inside.

11-29-2002, 11:00 AM	#20
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	I just like its originality. Even though it looks like an Elise, I have never seen anything like it before in my town.

11-29-2002, 11:23 AM	#24
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	...or $50k+ Canadian. I'd go for the Nissan 350Z instead.

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Kat - Fast Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The bushes behind your house Posts: 2,303	http://buypower.vauxhall.co.uk/showr...ds&brand=VX220 £22k on the road

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