Welcome to the GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum forums.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Post New Thread Reply

Register GFY Rules Calendar
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >
Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
Thread Tools
Old 06-02-2009, 09:36 AM   #1
vanillaice
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 512
A few paysite questions

I'm on the verge of setting up a paysite, but I have a few questions...

1. What's the best way to handle content management at a 'newbie' rate? I've seen what appears to be some fantastic programs out there, but definitely out of my price range at the moment. I'm basically looking for something to generate galleries at this point, and anything else is a bonus.

2. What is a good amount of photos per set? I'm thinking somewhere around 75-100 quality pictures

3. A few questions about CCbill..
a) don't they charge something like $700 to start?
b) what are good members management scripts that run well with ccbill?
c) why don't sites accept paypal? Does PP only do non adult which forces people to stay with ccbill?

4. How is retention these days? Assuming I give them exactly what I promise in the tour (no tricks or gimmicks), update content on time like promised and have her do weekly or bi-weekly cam shows, what can I expect for retention? Ballpark figures obviously because I know it also depends on the personality of the girl, how members feel about her, how you tease them and want them coming back for more, etc.

Thanks for the answers! Sorry if some of these questions are dumb
vanillaice is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 09:49 AM   #2
Evil-Dan
Confirmed User
 
Evil-Dan's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Lots of different places
Posts: 464
I hope your concept is amazing, because the traditional pay site model is not a happening thing

Not trying to be a downer, just being honest
__________________
Evil Is As Evil Does
Evil-Dan is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 09:51 AM   #3
FrozenJag
Confirmed User
 
FrozenJag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,763
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanillaice View Post
I'm on the verge of setting up a paysite, but I have a few questions...

1. What's the best way to handle content management at a 'newbie' rate? I've seen what appears to be some fantastic programs out there, but definitely out of my price range at the moment. I'm basically looking for something to generate galleries at this point, and anything else is a bonus.

2. What is a good amount of photos per set? I'm thinking somewhere around 75-100 quality pictures

3. A few questions about CCbill..
a) don't they charge something like $700 to start?
b) what are good members management scripts that run well with ccbill?
c) why don't sites accept paypal? Does PP only do non adult which forces people to stay with ccbill?

4. How is retention these days? Assuming I give them exactly what I promise in the tour (no tricks or gimmicks), update content on time like promised and have her do weekly or bi-weekly cam shows, what can I expect for retention? Ballpark figures obviously because I know it also depends on the personality of the girl, how members feel about her, how you tease them and want them coming back for more, etc.

Thanks for the answers! Sorry if some of these questions are dumb
1. Not sure, but elevatedx looks good. 200/mo Not sure what your version of noobie rate is.

2. Yeah, pretty good number IMO.

3a. Yes
b. NATS works well.
c. Paypal = Non Adult

4. Dunno
FrozenJag is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 09:54 AM   #4
JimmiDean
Confirmed User
 
JimmiDean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Margarittaville
Posts: 3,433
3. A few questions about CCbill..
a) don't they charge something like $700 to start?
Its the fee for Visa CCbill has no start up cost
b) what are good members management scripts that run well with ccbill?
They have their own built in
c) why don't sites accept paypal? Does PP only do non adult which forces people to stay with ccbill?

paypal does not accept adult period
hope that helps
__________________
My God there's Porn on here!

Still on the Beach !!!
JimmiDean is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 09:55 AM   #5
JimmiDean
Confirmed User
 
JimmiDean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Margarittaville
Posts: 3,433
And yes elevatedX is awsome and the price is right.
__________________
My God there's Porn on here!

Still on the Beach !!!
JimmiDean is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 09:56 AM   #6
Sly
Let's do some business!
 
Sly's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,307
Do you have your own traffic?
__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available - 1st month free for GFY members - Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. DM to get set up.

Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale
Sly is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:02 AM   #7
vanillaice
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 512
Damn, 700 visa fee? Lame.

And no, no traffic right now, but I have a few ways of getting that when i'm ready for it
vanillaice is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:03 AM   #8
Sly
Let's do some business!
 
Sly's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,307
Actually it's $750.
__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available - 1st month free for GFY members - Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. DM to get set up.

Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale
Sly is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:08 AM   #9
vanillaice
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 512
So to the experts out there then, say you're me. You have experience in the industry, at least know the 'ins and outs' of it. However, you're tight on cash, but you have an 18 year old girl with an extremely hot body willing to do a site either solo or hardcore (doesn't matter to her)... how do you go about it?
vanillaice is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:10 AM   #10
Sly
Let's do some business!
 
Sly's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 31,307
Do cams and clip stores first to build up some traffic and cash and content, then start a site.
__________________
Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted

Windows VPS now available - 1st month free for GFY members - Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. DM to get set up.

Wanted: CCBill pay sites for sale
Sly is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:28 AM   #11
SilentKnight
Megan Fox's fluffer
 
SilentKnight's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: shooting pool in Elysium
Posts: 24,818
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanillaice View Post
So to the experts out there then, say you're me. You have experience in the industry, at least know the 'ins and outs' of it. However, you're tight on cash, but you have an 18 year old girl with an extremely hot body willing to do a site either solo or hardcore (doesn't matter to her)... how do you go about it?
If you're thinking of going paysite - go with a niche category. BDSM/fetish still sells well in a paysite format.

But as others have already pointed out - the traditional paysite concept is growing stagnant...unless you have something unique or special to offer. That's why I strongly suggest something like fetish.

Are you doing the photography/video yourself - or contracting it out? Guy-With-Camera could be a roadblock to success.
SilentKnight is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:31 AM   #12
Zorgman
Confirmed User
 
Zorgman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 6,103
I agree with Sly. Do some videos, sell them and make money from other webmasters buying her content. Sell at non exclusive value so you can still use them later once you build up enough.

Use www.clips4sale.com and other places to sell her content to surfers.
Register a domain for her and link to the clips4sale shop.
Do some strip tease (mostly softcore/no boobs or pussy showing) and place it on youtube. Maybe get her to dance and place a watermark in the video.

Just my 2c.
__________________
---
Zorgman is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:32 AM   #13
kmanrox
aka K-Man
 
kmanrox's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: The Gutter
Posts: 29,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanillaice View Post
So to the experts out there then, say you're me. You have experience in the industry, at least know the 'ins and outs' of it. However, you're tight on cash, but you have an 18 year old girl with an extremely hot body willing to do a site either solo or hardcore (doesn't matter to her)... how do you go about it?
get your girl into an ironclad contract made my an actual lawyer (investment), get some nice pics made of her, send them to established solo girl programs like thatoneprogram.com or lightspeedcash.com and whatnot and make a deal with them... that's the easiest way to go about it... if you're willing bust ass to get her going there's other ways to go about maxing this chick some of which was mentioned here... either way, you're going to need an ironclad contract with her or someone will find a way around you and steal her from ya... welcome to the real world.

and goodluck of course.
__________________
Crypto HODLr
Crypto mining
Angel investor
kmanrox is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:33 AM   #14
Manowar
jellyfish  
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 71,528
yeah its 750 unless your in the EU
Manowar is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:40 AM   #15
Barefootsies
Choice is an Illusion
 
Barefootsies's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Obama
Posts: 42,635
:2cents

Quote:
Originally Posted by vanillaice View Post
I'm on the verge of setting up a paysite, but I have a few questions...

1. What's the best way to handle content management at a 'newbie' rate? I've seen what appears to be some fantastic programs out there, but definitely out of my price range at the moment. I'm basically looking for something to generate galleries at this point, and anything else is a bonus.

2. What is a good amount of photos per set? I'm thinking somewhere around 75-100 quality pictures

3. A few questions about CCbill..
a) don't they charge something like $700 to start?
b) what are good members management scripts that run well with ccbill?
c) why don't sites accept paypal? Does PP only do non adult which forces people to stay with ccbill?

4. How is retention these days? Assuming I give them exactly what I promise in the tour (no tricks or gimmicks), update content on time like promised and have her do weekly or bi-weekly cam shows, what can I expect for retention? Ballpark figures obviously because I know it also depends on the personality of the girl, how members feel about her, how you tease them and want them coming back for more, etc.

Thanks for the answers! Sorry if some of these questions are dumb
1. If you are a noob you are trying to control costs while figuring if you belong in this business. Either go B-H-E.com (rev share business model. No BW hosting, or processing charges, free strawman CMS), or use SiteDepth ($599.00).

2. Fifty to a hundred.

3.a. Yes. For VISA processing.
b. SiteDepth.
c. Check their T.O.S.. PP does not process for 'virtual' adult goods. Only tangibles. However, it is similar to paying for anything 'virtual'. You find that out when people do a charge back.

4. I can only speak to my niches... foot fetish, tickling, and celebrity. Retention is fine. Some rebill a few months, some rebill forever. Others are one hit wonders, or pop up every 2-3 months.

Ultimately your pay site will play a roll in the retention piece of the equation. Your content. How often you update, etc..

Good luck chief.
__________________
Should You Email Your Members?

Link1 | Link2 | Link3

Enough Said.

"Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

Last edited by Barefootsies; 06-02-2009 at 10:42 AM..
Barefootsies is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:40 AM   #16
vanillaice
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 512
Quote:
Are you doing the photography/video yourself - or contracting it out? Guy-With-Camera could be a roadblock to success.
I would but my gf is not a big fan of me doing that (ugh), so i'm likely going to have my brother or friends do it for now. I'd like to hire someone professionally if I do get some interest through clips...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorgman View Post
Use www.clips4sale.com and other places to sell her content to surfers.
Register a domain for her and link to the clips4sale shop.
Do some strip tease (mostly softcore/no boobs or pussy showing) and place it on youtube. Maybe get her to dance and place a watermark in the video.

Just my 2c.
Yea, I was just speaking with sly on ICQ and I think that's likely the path i'm going to take due to my financial situation.

I also agree with others, she definitely needs a niche. It's far too difficult to promote just a regular boring site.. She has a fantastic ass, is that still too vague of a niche to promote?
vanillaice is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:43 AM   #17
vanillaice
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 512
Also, i'm thinking of having her do cam shows, any recommendations on cam sites? Regarding cam sites, is there any way to promote your domain with them during shows?
vanillaice is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2009, 10:44 AM   #18
Barefootsies
Choice is an Illusion
 
Barefootsies's Avatar
 
Industry Role:
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Land of Obama
Posts: 42,635

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorgman View Post
Use www.clips4sale.com and other places to sell her content to surfers.
Register a domain for her and link to the clips4sale shop.
Do some strip tease (mostly softcore/no boobs or pussy showing) and place it on youtube. Maybe get her to dance and place a watermark in the video.
True dat. Tutorial in sig.
__________________
Should You Email Your Members?

Link1 | Link2 | Link3

Enough Said.

"Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"
Barefootsies is offline   Share thread on Digg Share thread on Twitter Share thread on Reddit Share thread on Facebook Reply With Quote
Post New Thread Reply
Go Back   GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum > >

Bookmarks



Advertising inquiries - marketing at gfy dot com

Contact Admin - Advertise - GFY Rules - Top

©2000-, AI Media Network Inc



Powered by vBulletin
Copyright © 2000- Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.