goBigtime

Not that this is something I would ever do or anything (I know how this will turn out if done as described) -- but it's now clear that you don't understand his business plan here AM Jeff. He doesn't plan to get paysite operators to allow him to have a full access backdoor passes to their members areas for $1.50 or whatever (Lmaooooooooooooooooooooooo <-- lol) He plans to get in touch with the paysite operators and have them make a seperate tour page for him that contains a few pics and videos for his surfer -- a preimum tour of sorts, or in the very least he will get hotlinking access to a few of their pics and vids.

I suppose some decent money could be made with a spinoff of this idea -- but not the way NE is thinking -- not a lot anyway. I mean if your currently rolling burritos for a living this might make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. However, the way that he has told us he would be making revenues from this is the last place I would be looking for them ;)

AM Jeff

Naw...you misread what he said.
He isn't planning to have webmasters make up a tour for him.
This is exactly as he quoted.
First of all, if he does this.
Content producers find out he is using unlicensed content. They WILL fuck him raw.
Think you new guys fail to understand. I can give you all you want in photos and shit..everyone can.

BUT..alot of the Content Producers, when they sell content. They issue license to THAT webmaster that bought content. NOT to whom anyone wants to use it. If thats the case..no Content producer would make money. Granted its flowing everywhere..but GOD help those who get caught by the Producers.

He or anyone would be foolish to wanna take a chance on something like this for THAT main reason.

Now..if he got permission from the Content Producers, thats fine.
But..even if he did get good traffic. I can't see any Webmaster thats gonna pay up front for traffic coming from something like that. Unless it is a percentage. Prepaid deal would be foolish.
Aslo..alot of click thru programs are based on performance. Iven raw..if they don't claim it..but if they see your traffic is shit..they'll can you or move you to a % deal.

Also...one of the main reason why the top notch Webmaster programs out there don't let Webmasters make up their own tour like they used too.
Too many misleading and lies, just to make a sale. Causes too many chargebacks.
Sponsors have way too much to do and some have way too many people to have to police where every click is coming from.
If other webmasters let anyone make up their own tour for their own program. They are foolish and gonna get fried by chargebacks.

Plus, with new VISA regulations coming down, not to forget $25 chargeback fees. Yes he will get them. We all do from idoits put there that know they can get away with doing so.

There just ins't any way making money on something like that.
Sure, he'll make a few nickles.
But those nickles won't be worth the hassle.

I know this from experience.
Dean (The General and DoKK) taught me tons years ago on this.
If he does decied to go head and do this. Instead of charging $1.95 or even $2.95.
Charge $19.95 or more.

As Dean told me. People will buy from you if you charge $2.95 or 49.95.

I stopped charging $9.95 on my site back then and backed it up to $49.95 and still had the same converstions, chargebacks ratios, traffic.

Difference was...
I was't making pennies..I was making dollars.

See where I am coming from?
All New people will be arrigant when starting out.
But ya'll have got to listen to some of the people thats been around a while or you won't last long in this business.

Shaggy

AM Jeff, well said.

Everyone's mom told them that fire would hurt but we didn't fully understand until we had blisters.

Don't be asking AM jeff for a needle to pop them.

Shaggy

till then we are just wasting our breathe. I remember being the same stupid fuck know it all newbie. I didn't listen either.

AM Jeff

Yeah..I was the same way when I started. We all did.
Learned alot thou.

Anyway..I could care less.
Ya could even have every single webmaster tell'em the same thing and they swear that we didn't know what we are talking about.

Oh well..let them try it.
They'll have to learn the hard way.

Fuck it..don't care anymore and I'm goin to bed.

kevinl

I wish someone could come up with something that really would allow a surfer a peek into the members areas of paysites. Some paysites are shit but some are awesome. Offer a surfer a free fifteen minutes inside members areas and then if they go back and signup collect the fee.

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hybrid

I can see why a lot of newbie questions are barely answered on GFY by the pros. If they're giving it to you negative, ignore the insults, but filter out the good advice (if there is any).

Seems as though people around here have been offering a lot of constructive advice recently. Good to see, please don't fuck it up for the rest of us.

Thanks.

Greg Atherton

that is a great idea if it could be actually executed. But there are too many flaws with the concept which is why no one has done it yet

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KCat

It's an interesting concept, but as a site owner, I don't like the idea of giving away that many of my images to another site. Why sign up for my site when they've already gotten the milk for free?

Of course, if you check out sites like Amateur Empire, there are plenty of girls who have huge archives there...

My 2 cents