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Pornwolf · 11-27-2002, 09:47 PM

Kevin, is a link to your main site there? Yes. Stop being so sensitive.

What I'm talking about is a GFY problem that's been going on for too long. The hosting guys play dirty on this board. Whenever 1 or 2 people has a imaginary or legit problem with any host 3 or 4 mysterious posters that never post anything on the main board pop up and add excessive salt on the wound.

Pipecrew · 11-27-2002, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber3

My link is there I hope you are not talking about me? Just because I dont post as much as the next guy does not mean much. I am not pushing any other host, but I keep seeing this problem and the same cheerleading squad saying "so its down but I get great ICQ support"

I don't get it?

Regards,

Kevin

I dont know whats more rare, Likewhoa Downtime, or the fact you have members

Cyber3 · 11-27-2002, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Kevin, is a link to your main site there? Yes. Stop being so sensitive.

Hey man my link is there, always has been, again do you see me pushing a host, no where on my sig or my sites for that matter do I advertise any host.

I have seen the flame wars between hosts on this board I do understand were you are coming from.

And what I see is a legit issue, webmaster with big problems, guys good luck hope it all works out ok for you.

Regards,

Kevin

Cyber3 · 11-27-2002, 09:59 PM

Quote:

I dont know whats more rare, Likewhoa Downtime, or the fact you have members

Anytime you wanna compare stats dude bring it on,

Regards,

Kevin

AM Jeff · 11-27-2002, 10:04 PM

I host with them and have NOT had any down time.

But then again...thats my server too.

I don't know about virual accounts.

Pipecrew · 11-27-2002, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber3

Anytime you wanna compare stats dude bring it on,

Regards,

Kevin

Oh geez, you must be related to Desirae..... Why are so many paysite owners high on themselves when they only get 20 signups a day? half of those coming from affiliates... I will never know!

Cyber3 · 11-27-2002, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Oh geez, you must be related to Desirae..... Why are so many paysite owners high on themselves when they only get 20 signups a day? half of those coming from affiliates... I will never know!

All talk no action typical very typical, next time you coment why don't you back it up?

Regards,

Kevin

Pipecrew · 11-27-2002, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyber3

All talk no action typical very typical, next time you coment why don't you back it up?

Regards,

Kevin

Dude I've posted my stats like 60 times, do a search...... I've probably sent more signups too affiliate programs in one week then you CAN/HAVE generated to your softcore picture site in 2 months

Cyber3 · 11-27-2002, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Dude I've posted my stats like 60 times, do a search...... I've probably sent more signups too affiliate programs in one week then you CAN/HAVE generated to your softcore picture site in 2 months

And what makes you think I don't do the same, what makes you think I only have one site? I don't have time to search through your almost 4000 posts man dude that allot

Regards,

Kevin

Sin_Vraal · 11-27-2002, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
You ever notice how these mysterious snipers with a low post count and no homepage link come out during these hosting threads?

This is called dirty pool guys. Cut it out.

Ever consider some people just dont have the urge to talk that much on the boards?

I have other things to do besides talk shit on the boards all day long. I read daily, but I only post when something gets me excited. I dont live by my computer, so if I have free time I dont sit around reading forums.

Fact of the matter is, LWI likes to talk shit about everyone else, and when you step on so many toes, people step on yours back. so when a post goes up, one of the regulars reads about it, and it inevitably gets back to the "fair-weather" posters, who have been burned so badly already that they feel obligated to reply.

You wanna know why LWI gets flamed when they have downtime? Why dont you take a look at their standard issue sales pitch they make.

Here is your like-whoa knight in shining armor:

http://www.traffictrader.net/likewhoa.txt

THAT is what you call dirty pool.

Theo · 11-27-2002, 10:52 PM

bottom line TUPAC IS ALIVE!

Cyber3 · 11-27-2002, 11:03 PM

Happy Turkey day guys, Im off to bed,

See ya,

Kevin

justsexxx · 11-28-2002, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sin_Vraal

Here is your like-whoa knight in shining armor:

http://www.traffictrader.net/likewhoa.txt

THAT is what you call dirty pool.

WHen you post shit over other hosting companies, and you say you are the best and you promoise things you don't have(like bgp4,multihomed,tier1 BW) You can expect shit like this.

Andre

funkmaster · 11-28-2002, 02:49 AM

"I don't see book-marks as being hosted at likewhoa"

bobo, you are 100% correct.

posh rat in hell · 11-28-2002, 03:03 AM

funkmaster:

Refresh my memory... didn't you host with likewhoa before?

I remember hearing a rumour somewhere that you were good friends with the owner of like whoa.

funkmaster · 11-28-2002, 03:30 AM

"I remember hearing a rumour somewhere that you were good friends with the owner of like whoa."

... I am having breakfast with the george bush, I work out with jennifer lopez and I party with denis rodman ....

justsexxx · 11-28-2002, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster

... I am having breakfast with the george bush, I work out with jennifer lopez and I party with denis rodman ....

Wow, you have a lot of famous friends

BTW, your paysites looks good!

picindex · 11-28-2002, 03:43 AM

General rule of thumb:

If a hosting company pushes their traffic through Cogent, Yipes, or Epik (are they still around?) then don?t expect the fucking world from them. They are so fucking cheap to buy REAL bandwidth and spend a little they more then likely don?t have a redundant network nor anything else they promise (yes there are exceptions to this but not many).

Bandwidth from any Tier 1 provider is cheap these days. The ?big boys? like Like Whoa should have some QUALITY bandwidth. I saw their prices and for Yipes bandwidth it sure looks like they are overcharging a ton of people. There support can't be that fucking good if the network has been done this time. Let me guess - It's not there fault!

Someone posted that they got kicked out of Level3 ? this was more then likely because they did not pay their hosting bill. L3 will put up with just about anything. Someone else posted that they did not pay Verio because they where working a deal ? That right there would make me switch hosting companies and never look back. Seems like LWI has a track record of not paying their upstream providers if it is true.

Yes hosting companies will go down here and there for a few minutes (there are ones who don?t) but these outages for HOURS long that LWI and ColoGroup have been having are UNACCEPTABLE for ANY web site. Hell if I had my family web site down for hours I would be pissed let alone a commercial porn site.

Spend the extra couple of bucks and go with a hosting company that sends out through real tier 1 providers (UUNet, ATT, Sprint (iffy), Level3, Qwest, Cable & Worthless).

pimpshost · 11-28-2002, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Yes hosting companies will go down here and there for a few minutes (there are ones who don?t) but these outages for HOURS long that LWI and ColoGroup have been having are UNACCEPTABLE for ANY web site. Hell if I had my family web site down for hours I would be pissed let alone a commercial porn site.

Cologroup....well...

That is why I got out of virtual hosting. It is honestly not a good business for hosting companies or webmasters. Our network was fine and our dedicated customers have had great service, but the virtual hosting was a non stop problem.

If you have a dedicated server, you control your server and nobody can effect that but your host. When you are on virtual, some people take up a lot of CPU time, some people take a lot of tech time, and you never know when the server is going to spike from a TGP listing.

Honestly, it sucks for everyone involved, and look forward to the day, everyone is on some sort of dedicated. As prices drop on computer systems, so will the prices for servers with hosting company. Just thought I'd speak my mind!

Juge · 11-28-2002, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by imJason
speak of the devil , they are back up,
not so bad, 2 hours down time,

Ha ha, my host guarantees downtime is no more than 5 minutes per year... it would take 24 YEARS to have that much downtime. I would be pissed if it happened all in one day, too.

ServerGenius · 11-28-2002, 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Juge

Ha ha, my host guarantees downtime is no more than 5 minutes per year... it would take 24 YEARS to have that much downtime. I would be pissed if it happened all in one day, too.

Your host is lying....read the fineprint of your contract.....the
guarantee means fuck all......it's all based on best effort

DynaMite

ServerGenius · 11-28-2002, 06:46 AM

Some really good hosts credit you if the do'n't meet the SLA
what theydo is at the end of the year the calculate total down
time.....let's say the total is 1 day.....then they credit you
for 1 day according the monthly fee you pay....for example
$300 dollars per month....you will get credited $30

DynaMite

justsexxx · 11-28-2002, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Juge

Ha ha, my host guarantees downtime is no more than 5 minutes per year... it would take 24 YEARS to have that much downtime. I would be pissed if it happened all in one day, too.

Who is your that host, (because your bikini site is hosted at rackshack?)

Andre

frankfortuna · 11-28-2002, 07:02 AM

Our company specializes in developing HA systems and business continuity plans for business critical systems that rely on the Solaris platform. I often laugh at the numbers that hosting companies insert into their marketing fluff. Let's put things in perspective:

Availability Requirement Yearly Monthly
95% 438h 36h
99% 87.6h 7.2h
99.9% 8.76h 43m
99.99% 52.56m 4.3m
99.999% 5.256m 25.92m

As you can see 99% uptime leaves a large margin for error.

ServerGenius · 11-28-2002, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
Our company specializes in developing HA systems and business continuity plans for business critical systems that rely on the Solaris platform. I often laugh at the numbers that hosting companies insert into their marketing fluff. Let's put things in perspective:

Availability Requirement Yearly Monthly
95% 438h 36h
99% 87.6h 7.2h
99.9% 8.76h 43m
99.99% 52.56m 4.3m
99.999% 5.256m 25.92m

As you can see 99% uptime leaves a large margin for error.

But still for most of the providers who are being used this margin
proofs not to be enough.......go figure

DynaMite

funkmaster · 11-28-2002, 07:43 AM

.. as a matter of the fact 99% uptime still means ~15min downtime every day ...

Wilbo · 11-28-2002, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sin_Vraal

Ever consider some people just dont have the urge to talk that much on the boards?

I have other things to do besides talk shit on the boards all day long. I read daily, but I only post when something gets me excited. I dont live by my computer, so if I have free time I dont sit around reading forums.

Fact of the matter is, LWI likes to talk shit about everyone else, and when you step on so many toes, people step on yours back. so when a post goes up, one of the regulars reads about it, and it inevitably gets back to the "fair-weather" posters, who have been burned so badly already that they feel obligated to reply.

You wanna know why LWI gets flamed when they have downtime? Why dont you take a look at their standard issue sales pitch they make.

Here is your like-whoa knight in shining armor:

http://www.traffictrader.net/likewhoa.txt

THAT is what you call dirty pool.

I just got a sales pitch similar to that the day before they went down. Salesman asked me where I was hosted and came back with "Didn't they just go down?" . I asked if Like Whoa ever went down. He said yes, but they keep their customers informed when they do.

Has anyone heard from Like Whoa concerning their downtime? I know the salesman has not been on ICQ during this entire incident.

Urbi · 11-28-2002, 09:21 AM

hmmm seems like Likewhoa is again down ... so to me they are down 1/2 of the day still for 3 days...

not cool... they were better! Support dont answering my questions etc...

David
Webmasterland - adult webmaster resource site

FlyingIguana · 11-28-2002, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Urbi
hmmm seems like Likewhoa is again down ... so to me they are down 1/2 of the day still for 3 days...

not cool... they were better! Support dont answering my questions etc...

David
Webmasterland - adult webmaster resource site

not down for me. is it your isp?

ameerst · 11-28-2002, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Urbi
hmmm seems like Likewhoa is again down ... so to me they are down 1/2 of the day still for 3 days...

not cool... they were better! Support dont answering my questions etc...

David
Webmasterland - adult webmaster resource site

Yes likewhoa is down again. why? Alliquid is down. WHat is wrong?

Urbi · 11-28-2002, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana

not down for me. is it your isp?

sorry...its not my ISP... Likewhoa is down... yesterday it was the same and on Thursday it was the same... looks like they have some bigger troubles because if they have some simple troubles, they are able to repair it in minutes....but this looks bad... every day few hours down time...

we`ll see...

UPDATE : now it loading extremely slow with only part of graphics.. the same symptoms like past days....

David
Webmasterland - adult webmaster resource site

Brown Bear · 11-28-2002, 10:08 AM

Likewhoa is down, down, down

The page cannot be displayed

Icy · 11-28-2002, 10:09 AM

After some hours up, it's up & down again, like past days, same problem, 10 minutes loading fine, 10 loading slow, 30 down, and again and again.

DarkJedi · 11-28-2002, 10:15 AM

ANYONE KNOWS WHY THE FUCK THEY ARE DOWN ?

ServerGenius · 11-28-2002, 10:16 AM

Thanksgiving

DynaMite

Darren · 11-28-2002, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
ANYONE KNOWS WHY THE FUCK THEY ARE DOWN ?

"we had some issues with the network - our traffic shaper acted up for a few minutes "

apparently.

gotys · 11-28-2002, 10:27 AM

I wonder if they are aware of the problem or they are munching on a turkey

gotys · 11-28-2002, 10:50 AM

Did anyone phone them? I don't have the number, I'd like to know if they are working on it, or are just ignoring it eating a fucking turkey.

Anyone has a number?

DarkJedi · 11-28-2002, 10:56 AM

THEY ARE ALL DEAD DRUNK !!

Brown Bear · 11-28-2002, 11:01 AM

Likewhoa is down, down, down

salsbury · 11-28-2002, 11:03 AM

it looks like their name servers are unreachable, as well. some errors you see may be "connection timed out" and others would be actual dns failures. hopefully most of you are seeing the former - the latter is more ugly for downtime (e-mail relies on DNS. luckily most mail servers accept it as a soft error, some don't tho.)

Bobo · 11-28-2002, 11:04 AM

Down

Why

gotys · 11-28-2002, 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkJedi
THEY ARE ALL DEAD DRUNK !!

You are joking right?

eru · 11-28-2002, 11:19 AM

Even my patience is starting to wear thin...

Bobo · 11-28-2002, 11:22 AM

I can't log into my mrtg stats. Says invalid login. Want to check out how really fucked it is.

TheFLY · 11-28-2002, 11:22 AM

If your top LikeWhoa trades are down, redirect the traffic to me ;)

Socalsweets.com

TheFLY · 11-28-2002, 11:23 AM

I'd call LikeWhoa but I feel bad -- it's Thanksgiving

This is really unfortunate.

Turboface · 11-28-2002, 11:25 AM

Now I know where they got their name.

TheFLY · 11-28-2002, 11:26 AM

I set some wheels in motion... So hold tight this may get taken care of soon...

Darren · 11-28-2002, 11:26 AM

i just moved to fucking dedicated hosted with them told i would be on verio and now this.

11-27-2002, 09:47 PM	#101
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Kevin, is a link to your main site there? Yes. Stop being so sensitive. What I'm talking about is a GFY problem that's been going on for too long. The hosting guys play dirty on this board. Whenever 1 or 2 people has a imaginary or legit problem with any host 3 or 4 mysterious posters that never post anything on the main board pop up and add excessive salt on the wound. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

11-27-2002, 11:03 PM	#112
Cyber3 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 181	Happy Turkey day guys, Im off to bed, See ya, Kevin __________________ New Hosted Galleries www.glamourmodelsgonebad.com

11-28-2002, 03:43 AM	#118
picindex Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,038	General rule of thumb: If a hosting company pushes their traffic through Cogent, Yipes, or Epik (are they still around?) then don?t expect the fucking world from them. They are so fucking cheap to buy REAL bandwidth and spend a little they more then likely don?t have a redundant network nor anything else they promise (yes there are exceptions to this but not many). Bandwidth from any Tier 1 provider is cheap these days. The ?big boys? like Like Whoa should have some QUALITY bandwidth. I saw their prices and for Yipes bandwidth it sure looks like they are overcharging a ton of people. There support can't be that fucking good if the network has been done this time. Let me guess - It's not there fault! Someone posted that they got kicked out of Level3 ? this was more then likely because they did not pay their hosting bill. L3 will put up with just about anything. Someone else posted that they did not pay Verio because they where working a deal ? That right there would make me switch hosting companies and never look back. Seems like LWI has a track record of not paying their upstream providers if it is true. Yes hosting companies will go down here and there for a few minutes (there are ones who don?t) but these outages for HOURS long that LWI and ColoGroup have been having are UNACCEPTABLE for ANY web site. Hell if I had my family web site down for hours I would be pissed let alone a commercial porn site. Spend the extra couple of bucks and go with a hosting company that sends out through real tier 1 providers (UUNet, ATT, Sprint (iffy), Level3, Qwest, Cable & Worthless). __________________ Good Content:

11-28-2002, 06:46 AM	#122
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11-28-2002, 07:43 AM	#126
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	.. as a matter of the fact 99% uptime still means ~15min downtime every day ... Last edited by funkmaster; 11-28-2002 at 07:46 AM..

11-27-2002, 10:04 PM	#105
AM Jeff Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: The House Of Rage Posts: 1,320	I host with them and have NOT had any down time. But then again...thats my server too. I don't know about virual accounts.

11-27-2002, 10:52 PM	#111
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	bottom line TUPAC IS ALIVE!

11-28-2002, 02:49 AM	#114
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"I don't see book-marks as being hosted at likewhoa" bobo, you are 100% correct.

11-28-2002, 03:03 AM	#115
posh rat in hell Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 403	funkmaster: Refresh my memory... didn't you host with likewhoa before? I remember hearing a rumour somewhere that you were good friends with the owner of like whoa.

11-28-2002, 03:30 AM	#116
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"I remember hearing a rumour somewhere that you were good friends with the owner of like whoa." ... I am having breakfast with the george bush, I work out with jennifer lopez and I party with denis rodman ....

11-28-2002, 07:02 AM	#124
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Our company specializes in developing HA systems and business continuity plans for business critical systems that rely on the Solaris platform. I often laugh at the numbers that hosting companies insert into their marketing fluff. Let's put things in perspective: Availability Requirement Yearly Monthly 95% 438h 36h 99% 87.6h 7.2h 99.9% 8.76h 43m 99.99% 52.56m 4.3m 99.999% 5.256m 25.92m As you can see 99% uptime leaves a large margin for error.

11-28-2002, 09:21 AM	#128
Urbi Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 117	hmmm seems like Likewhoa is again down ... so to me they are down 1/2 of the day still for 3 days... not cool... they were better! Support dont answering my questions etc... David Webmasterland - adult webmaster resource site Last edited by Urbi; 11-28-2002 at 09:23 AM..

11-28-2002, 10:08 AM	#132
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Likewhoa is down, down, down The page cannot be displayed __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

11-28-2002, 10:09 AM	#133
Icy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 864	After some hours up, it's up & down again, like past days, same problem, 10 minutes loading fine, 10 loading slow, 30 down, and again and again.

11-28-2002, 10:15 AM	#134
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	ANYONE KNOWS WHY THE FUCK THEY ARE DOWN ?

11-28-2002, 10:16 AM	#135
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11-28-2002, 10:27 AM	#137
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11-28-2002, 10:50 AM	#138
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11-28-2002, 10:56 AM	#139
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	THEY ARE ALL DEAD DRUNK !!

11-28-2002, 11:01 AM	#140
Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	Likewhoa is down, down, down __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

11-28-2002, 11:03 AM	#141
salsbury Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,070	it looks like their name servers are unreachable, as well. some errors you see may be "connection timed out" and others would be actual dns failures. hopefully most of you are seeing the former - the latter is more ugly for downtime (e-mail relies on DNS. luckily most mail servers accept it as a soft error, some don't tho.) __________________

11-28-2002, 11:04 AM	#142
Bobo Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,253	Down Why

11-28-2002, 11:19 AM	#144
eru Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hawai'i Posts: 2,612	Even my patience is starting to wear thin... __________________ <font color="#FFFFFF" size="2" face="Verdana">This thread will self-destruct in 5 seconds.</font><font color="#FFFFFF" face="Verdana"><br> <br> <font size="1">In the meantime, consider hosting with <a href="http://www.choopa.com"><font color="#00FF00">Choopa</font></a> -- The only provider with 9 x 1000mbps Transit Redundancy</font></font>

11-28-2002, 11:22 AM	#145
Bobo Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,253	I can't log into my mrtg stats. Says invalid login. Want to check out how really fucked it is.

11-28-2002, 11:22 AM	#146
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	If your top LikeWhoa trades are down, redirect the traffic to me ;) Socalsweets.com

11-28-2002, 11:23 AM	#147
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I'd call LikeWhoa but I feel bad -- it's Thanksgiving This is really unfortunate.

11-28-2002, 11:25 AM	#148
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11-28-2002, 11:26 AM	#149
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	I set some wheels in motion... So hold tight this may get taken care of soon...

11-28-2002, 11:26 AM	#150
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