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Old 11-25-2002, 06:40 PM   #1
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about last night

I feel bad about what I have done here concerning snow & hungry.

I don't know why I should..... but I do. just needed to say that...


can't undo the damage... what's done is done.
If I could do it over, I'd have kept my mouth shut.


Hungry doesn't owe me anything. But he also doesn't own that design. I do. Well... Vegas does now. The design has been sold to Vegas. I'm out of the loop. From here on, Hungry will hafta deal with Vegas and however Vegas chooses to handle it from here.

Snow, sorry man.... I was not in any shape to be on the phone last night.. it only would have become an even greater spectacle.
But you entered into the deal the same as I did. And I know you had some rough times and all.... but I gotta eat too.
You're off the hook. I gave away the first two versions last night, and sold the third today.

I apologize to everyone if I was an ass. I don't regret my actions, and I take ownership of them, but I do wish I had not been so harsh about it.
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Old 11-25-2002, 06:41 PM   #2
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Regardless of how sorry you are I'd like to hear some apologies from people who flamed me when I let on that Snow was a loser.

Because as it turns out, and as I knew at the time, everything I said was true.
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Old 11-25-2002, 06:44 PM   #3
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Fuck that.

Hungryman has been posing long enough.

Fuck apologies.

I just got off the phone with my friend who called to ask me why Hungryman was asking him to come post on a board he has never been to.

Hungryman.

Fuck off - talk your shit on icq But you have yet to deal with shit at hand.

You dont fucking call my friends and ask them to post against me you motherfucker.

How lame can you get?

Hes damn near my little brother, how you gonna turn him on me?

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Oh God.

Here we go again.

Day III of The GFY War Zone.

The end is near. The Messiah is Coming.
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Old 11-25-2002, 06:51 PM   #5
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Oh God.

Here we go again.

Day III of The GFY War Zone.

The end is near. The Messiah is Coming.
nope... not at all bro.... as far as I'm concerned, it's all over with.... I just wanted to say I feel bad about being a dick. I know it doesn't mean much to snow and hungry at this moment.... but wanted to say it anyway.
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Let it be known, I aint got shit to do with SNow. Thats all between Amp and he.

But when Hungry talks shit behind my back to a dude I know in the real world, its kinda silly dont ya think?

This fucker showed his side.

I base all my shit on a serious honor system. Where im from, if I introduce you to someone, and you fucking rip them off, I owe you. I play the game real.

Hungry aint proved shit to me other than trying to talk shit and twist facts.

Not a fucking ounce of respect or honor.

Play the fucking game right, or dont fucking play,.

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I wanted to write the following in the other thread 12 hours ago:
"Amp, please don't start new threads with apologies when you sober up in the morning, or afternoon"


Unfortunately, I didn't, if I did, I would have had a point here

You usually come and apologize the next day, Ive seen it a few times already
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Easy for you to say, you gave away the rights to their sites!

Something tells me not all is well and chilled with them.
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Something tells me not all is well and chilled with them.
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I wanted to write the following in the other thread 12 hours ago:
"Amp, please don't start new threads with apologies when you sober up in the morning, or afternoon"


Unfortunately, I didn't, if I did, I would have had a point here

You usually come and apologize the next day, Ive seen it a few times already
you got me there bro...
but I'm only apologizing for being an ass.... nothing else. I'd have done what I did anyway.... but with much less smack talk.
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Fuck em.

You think bill collectors give a fuck when they call you?

lamers.
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hahaha.. This is all too funny.. Ass..
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but all that smack talk.... its soooo sexy.....

baby you don't owe me a damn thing hehe
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well amp I for one will like to say - ya don't have to feel bad... we all know how its like getting pushed to the edge..

we all gotta eat like you say!

Im off to bed anyone who wants to talk then my icq suck dick so email me at [email protected] and I'l respond buttnaked when Im awake in about 7 hours..hehe

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Old 11-25-2002, 08:52 PM   #21
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take your time and figure out what you wanna do with them bro.... and email me with your change requests and ideas and I'll hook you up....

plenty of time for you to figure out what to do with them... cuz I'm wrapped up in moving now...
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Amp you were wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Out of line dude. I dont know what to say seriously. I'm in shock.

you have my number
you have my icq
you have my email

If you wanted something from me you could have done 1 of three. I never run from situations and always face them in the bud whether I'm right or wrong. I will always face what other people have to say about me and adress them properly. I think you released all your anger for the wrong reasons especially me cause we had a good friendship and you know it. You know I always had your back and spoke good words about you. But admit to the fact that you litrerally dissappeared and You never ONCE ASKED for payment or anything. We were gonna be partners. I talked to you 2 weeks ago to see how you guys were doing and you didnt mention a thing and I come to this circus act of you going off the handle.

You wanted to build mafia and win that design contest and we both agreed it would be great exposure. Thats all it was. You said some pretty nasty false things. I must of had 300 people Icq me and my phone wouldnt stop. If you stayed with me as a partner and put that same energy into promoting we would have been a good team. You could not do it cause you had quotas with other people so you faded away. All of a sudden I owe you money Cmon dude. You flaked not me.

You should have talked to me and said hey snow it's not gonna work out man i'm doing celeb sites with gary now. Why dont you just pay me such and such and were even on the designs.CASE CLOSED. That's all you had to do. MY 8 year old son could have handled this better then you. Anyways whatever, you do what you have to do but this in no way hurt me or my company.

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AMP do you have anything to say now that your not Drunk or Drugged up?
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I believe he said it already -

"<I>I apologize to everyone if I was an ass. I don't regret my actions, and I take ownership of them, but I do wish I had not been so harsh about it.</I>"


Harsh....hmm, "abrupt" is another good one. In your case Snow I agree, I think a few private messages were in order before letting loose. Strange circumstances last night, and you got lumped in with it.
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TRUE cd but was that a public apology. Cause I'll tell you this much my mafia Idea has a patent. and EVERYONE knows I created this idea. So you know what I dont care and will go after anyone who copies my idea. END OF STORY. I'm not posting on this anymore. You think the HUN is tough try fucking with me.

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You think the HUN is tough try fucking with me.

So you claim not to owe Amp a fucking dime and then threaten him?

Wow.

Ive seen Amps work, its worth more than I see being dealt today.

No matter what Amp did.

If he was owed, he is owed, no way around it....that shit is months old.

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TRUE cd but was that a public apology. Cause I'll tell you this much my mafia Idea has a patent. and EVERYONE knows I created this idea. So you know what I dont care and will go after anyone who copies my idea. END OF STORY. I'm not posting on this anymore. You think the HUN is tough try fucking with me.

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AMP do you have anything to say now that your not Drunk or Drugged up?
I already publicly apologized for being an ass to you steve. It's at the top of the thread. But aside from that, the fact remains.... most of what you just said is true. However, it's not much of a partnership if I'm getting nothing from it.

The reason I flaked on you was because after 3 tours and a members template, you wanted even more work, and I can't live on $0.00. I had to move on to something paying and I told you as much at the time. So I'm not real sure I'd call that 'flaking'. But I don't think that dissolves the deal. The deal was for a percentage. Do you deny that I never saw a dime for anything I did for you?

I can look at things from your perspective. It's easy to be excited about your site, and new work, and new goals.... I understand.

It's also easy to get very frustrated when you're doing work and getting nothing from it. That would be my perspective. Try and see it for a moment.

I let this go on for a long time. Out of respect for you. Plus the fact that I knew you were having personal issues with your family. I never hounded you for money, because it seemed you had enough to deal with already.

But now.... it appears that you're doing pretty good. You've got back on your feet, made some new advancements and things seem to be looking up. Yet, you never once offered to pay anything towards the work I did for you. Why? You want more work to be done, but felt the past work was some sort of gift?

I don't understand. And I'm really tired of arguing. I'm trying desperately here to make this a rational reasonable post. I still think you're a decent guy, but I was pissed off big style last night and I'm feelin' a little used right now steve. It may have been no big deal to you.... but this is what I do for a living. And for you to sweep it under the carpet like it doesn't matter, I think, really sucks.

You could have at least offered me a damn gesture.

I'm sorry this is turning out badly for both of us steve. I gotta live with my shitty decisions. And if you wanna be a tough guy and damage me, go ahead. I'm not gonna fight with you about this anymore and I'm not gonna go on raving about it. It's over. Perhaps we had some serious miscommunication issues, but it won't change the fact that you valued my efforts for you at zero. And that is why I finally flipped out.

That's all I have to say on it.
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%#@%! Damn. You feel like giving away any more of your designs?
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If someone is looking for a sliver lining here, it should be that everyone has learned that if you do work or have work done for you, send them an invoice, or ask for one. If you enter into a partnership, get it on paper.

That way there can be no misunderstandings.
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If someone is looking for a sliver lining here, it should be that everyone has learned that if you do work or have work done for you, send them an invoice, or ask for one. If you enter into a partnership, get it on paper.

That way there can be no misunderstandings.
Oh this is sooooo true...
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I feel bad about what I have done here concerning snow & hungry.

I don't know why I should..... but I do. just needed to say that...


can't undo the damage... what's done is done.
If I could do it over, I'd have kept my mouth shut.


Hungry doesn't owe me anything. But he also doesn't own that design. I do. Well... Vegas does now. The design has been sold to Vegas. I'm out of the loop. From here on, Hungry will hafta deal with Vegas and however Vegas chooses to handle it from here.

Snow, sorry man.... I was not in any shape to be on the phone last night.. it only would have become an even greater spectacle.
But you entered into the deal the same as I did. And I know you had some rough times and all.... but I gotta eat too.
You're off the hook. I gave away the first two versions last night, and sold the third today.

I apologize to everyone if I was an ass. I don't regret my actions, and I take ownership of them, but I do wish I had not been so harsh about it.

dont be a fuckin pussy amp... say what you mean, and mean what you say....
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Old 11-26-2002, 12:15 PM   #42
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I believe that amp has been cheated by many and I some how got lumped in. I did talk to you on the phone 2 weeks ago. I asked you how you and your kids were and how is everything.

I will be making a statement shortly.
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I believe that amp has been cheated by many and I some how got lumped in. I did talk to you on the phone 2 weeks ago. I asked you how you and your kids were and how is everything.

I will be making a statement shortly.
And???
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Old 11-26-2002, 01:26 PM   #44
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I will be making a statement shortly.


read you Moron.
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Old 11-26-2002, 04:12 PM   #45
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read you Moron.
And a hardy smart ass.
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:34 AM   #47
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:54 AM   #48
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my mafia Idea has a patent. and EVERYONE knows I created this idea.
Yeah, a patent on the mafia idea... patent cannot be apply on idea... but on technology, etc... and even then...

is anyone owning a patent on the TGP idea?
on avs sites?
on MILF ?
is Choker system as a patent?
message boards technology/coding doesnt even have a patent... just need to slightly change the coding and you are set!
even girls fuck guys was copied.... its an idea... it cannot have a patent!!!
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2 things i have noticed since first coming to this board:

1. There have been tons of post these last couple years that make one question SNOW's reputation when deciding to push any program he's involved with.

2. When Amp blows up, he REALLY blows up, and on occassion he has apologized in someway the next morning.

what have i learned? I choose not to promote anything involving SNOW and try not to piss off AMP.
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