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Old 05-05-2009, 08:07 AM   #1
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Britian's least wanted list published

For the first time a list of some of the people denied entry to the UK on the basis of promoting extremism or hatred has been published. It is only a list of 16 but a fairly interesting read. It includes Fred Phelps and Mike Savage.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8033319.stm
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:13 AM   #2
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Quite interesting.
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Savage, on that list... wow, they are reallllly reaching.

"His views on immigration, Islam, rape and autism have caused great offence in the US."

Bull.... shit....

Immigration = Lock the South border down, its causing problems. He is correct.. but the problem is his Country signed an agreement to honor Mexico's rights, so it will never happen.

Islam = It is over taking, he speaks the truth.

Rape = He is anti-abortion but that's a funny way to put it, he is for rape.

Autism = He said many brat kids fake it, but not all.. He is correct. He only offended morons.


Fred Phelps and crew should be shot... skinned alive, boiled, and then shot..
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Savage = Terrorist?

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Old 05-05-2009, 08:32 AM   #5
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Micheal Savage ? Who's next, Rush Limbaugh and all the rest? lol

Not much better in Canada, George Galloway was denied entry...

We live in such great free-speech-loving nations..!
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:53 AM   #6
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Savage, on that list... wow, they are reallllly reaching.

"His views on immigration, Islam, rape and autism have caused great offence in the US."

Bull.... shit....
He said Arabs are not human and called for the US to nuke them all and more... He is just as bad as any white supremacist on the planet in my book.

http://nosavage.org/
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:03 AM   #7
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Regarding Free Speech in Britain:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/2496605.stm

Columnist arrested over 'race' speech

Robin Page was accused of making racist comments
A former presenter of One Man and His Dog has been arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred in a pro-hunting speech.

Robin Page, 61, a farmer and countryside campaigner, was questioned over remarks he made at a fair in Frampton on Severn, Gloucestershire.

Mr Page was invited to the event by its organisers, the Frampton Court Estate, to urge people to attend the Liberty and Livelihood March in London.

But several people complained to police about his speech, in which he allegedly said supporters of the traditional country way of life should be given the same rights as blacks, Muslims and gays.

Protesters
Thousands attended the protest march

On Monday Gloucestershire Police asked Mr Page to attend an interview at a police station in Cambridge, near his farm in Barton.

The Daily Telegraph columnist was subsequently arrested on suspicion of committing public order offences by breaching section 18 of the Public Order Act, which refers to the stirring up of racial hatred.

Mr Page denies having made racist comments at the event on 6 September.

Establishment blamed

He said: "I believe country people should have the same rights and protection under the law as any other minority group in a multi-cultural society.

"It is beyond my comprehension that I am not allowed to say that in a public place, where I was invited on to private land."

He said his arrest was an example of the way country people had been "victimised" by the establishment.

A spokesman for Gloucestershire Police confirmed a man from Barton, Cambridgeshire, was arrested on suspicion of committing public order offences.

Mr Page was released on bail and is to report back to Stroud Police Station on 6 January.


Public Order Act

Parts 3 and 3A- Racial hatred etc.

Part 3 of the Act creates offences of use of words or behaviour or display of written material (section 18), publishing or distributing written material (section 19), public performance of a play (section 20), distributing, showing or playing a recording (section 21), or broadcasting (section 22), if the act is intended to stir up racial hatred, or possession of racially inflammatory material (section 23).

Part 3A was created by the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 with the insertion of new sections 29A to 29N. This part created new offences for acts intended to stir up religious hatred. Sections 29B to 29N are to be further amended by the Criminal Justice and Immigration Act 2008 when the relevant parts of that act come into force. These further amendments will extend Part 3A to cover intent to stir up hatred on the grounds of sexual orientation (to be defined in new section 29AB).



That's way worst than Czech Republic..

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He said Arabs are not human and called for the US to nuke them all and more... He is just as bad as any white supremacist on the planet in my book.

http://nosavage.org/
Wow, I haven't ever seen a more out of context site in my life.. No wonder they don't allow comments, they would get ripped apart.

I agree with about 90% of what he says about Muslims.. and he has said they aren't all bad, evil etc.. but those aren't the 'few' out protesting against terrorism. Sites like that simply cut out the part that made him build up the rant..
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He said Arabs are not human and called for the US to nuke them all and more... He is just as bad as any white supremacist on the planet in my book.

http://nosavage.org/
The UK is AFRAID of Muslims, they have enough of them, that is why Savage is on that list. That country is a joke now anyways, has been for years. Who would want to live in that shit hole?
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Savage = Terrorist?

ROFL ROFL
I don't really know anything about Savage other than the basics. So, I am not commenting on him but the list doesn't say it really has anything directly to do with terrorism.
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:09 AM   #11
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Wow, I haven't ever seen a more out of context site in my life.. No wonder they don't allow comments, they would get ripped apart.

I agree with about 90% of what he says about Muslims.. and he has said they aren't all bad, evil etc.. but those aren't the 'few' out protesting against terrorism. Sites like that simply cut out the part that made him build up the rant..
well... personally, I can't stand him and think he IS a racist and bigot... I just posted that link because it has some audio samples... but I have heard alot worse. Particularly offensive is his anti-gay vitriol... I heard him tell a gay caller once that he was a sodomite and should die of aids. Yes... I am a liberal... so in his view I have a mental disorder... but I am perfectly fine with living my life hate free. The funny thing about anyone in porn thinking he is ok is that I would be interested to hear his view of porn... or any of those right wing talkers for that matter.

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Old 05-05-2009, 10:26 AM   #12
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The funny thing about anyone in porn thinking he is ok is that I would be interested to hear his view of porn... or any of those right wing talkers for that matter.
liking him or not and defending free speech are 2 seperate things

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well... personally, I can't stand him and think he IS a racist and bigot... I just posted that link because it has some audio samples... but I have heard alot worse. Particularly offensive is his anti-gay vitriol... I heard him tell a gay caller once that he was a sodomite and should die of aids. Yes... I am a liberal... so in his view I have a mental disorder... but I am perfectly fine with living my life hate free. The funny thing about anyone in porn thinking he is ok is that I would be interested to hear his view of porn... or any of those right wing talkers for that matter.
I just try to live in reality, where I know most people are racist, at some level to some people.. be it skin color or, not race and it's gay, or fat.. or whatever.

He has a problem with being gay - the idea of creation+gay=none and the moral issues. Which are real, just depends if you care about them or not.

But I really don't think he raciest, or against them, simply because the person is gay or skin color. The person is a problem for him when they are stupid, in his eyes (stupid is a huge range for him) and they could be gay, old, young, white, black and so on.

I have heard him have great conversions with known gays and Muslims, that have a brain. I have heard him rip Christians for being stupid too...

Porn wise.. He is correct, it's the same moral issue as gays. The question is, do you give a crap or not about that moral issue.


Anyway, I don't listen to him for his views - I listen to him for the news that the rest of American media ignores and he nails, time and time again.. View wise, he is a douche that has some damn good points, sometimes.
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One bit of respect I will give Savage... Never in my life have I heard a man call his own listening group, morons/idiots, say you, the listener, you are a idiot for whatever and such and such.. wake up, morons..

I love it.. Think of me going off, you stupid affiliates, don't know if you just promoted me, gave up your lost dreams of money with others, got out of your fantasy world of stupidity, and just listened to me.. you would make more! Are you stupid? Do you want to stay stupid your entire life? Wake up morons, promote me or be broke.. it's that simple...



And his fan base eats it up... Blows my mind..
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liking him or not and defending free speech are 2 seperate things
Noone told him he couldn't say something... so this isn't a free speech issue at all... they said that they don't want him in their yard because they don't like what he says... We don't allow Cat Stevens in the US.
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Fred Phelps and crew should be shot... skinned alive, boiled, and then shot..

Certainly not going to argue with that.

I guess the thing about the list is that there isn't much context given to why the individuals were denied. The Phelps crew made the news when they were denied because they were planning on coming over and protesting at the funeral of troops. So, they were denied entry. I have no idea what Savage had planned on his visit and one would suspect he had to have something 'official' planned because as just a mere citizen it would be hard to stop him.

Also interesting is just how few were stopped and that the majority are connected to the middle east whereas most people here think that sort is never denied entry.
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