Zango gone bust!!!

[jacklaidlaw]

Finally!!!!!!!!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/21/zango/

The following quote is from here this seems to be the most interesting part for the adult community
http://blog.wouldbetheologian.com/

Zango was unfairly charged with affiliate commission stealing. This is a complicated story, and I'll forgive anyone who doesn't want to read through the gory details. Back in 2004-2005, Commission Junction and LinkShare were two of Zango's largest advertisers, and we were one of their largest publishers. We displayed targeted ads promoting their advertisers' products, took a share of the proceeds when a user bought something, and pretty much everybody was happy. Initially, we sometimes used the advertiser's home page as a targeting mechanism, and I'll have to confess, this never struck me as particularly fair to the advertiser. (If the user is already sitting on eBay's site, why should we get a commission if the user happens to make their purchase through our ad rather than their original browser instance?) There are some instances when home page targeting is justified: if Alaska doesn't want Southwest's ad to show up when someone visits their website, they should pay for the privilege. (You'll note whose ad shows up when you google "Dell", and that doesn't happen for free.) But most of the time, I think the advertisers who complained about it had a reasonable point. However, as soon as LinkShare and CJ asked us to stop this practice, we did so. We even implemented a number of fairly complicated and expensive features to ensure that we wouldn't inadvertently display ads that would violate their terms of service. (In fact, Ben Edelman once badly misinterpreted a packet sniff to imply that we were being particularly nefarious, when what it actually showed was us trying desperately not to step on somebody's home page, and going through some admittedly strange gyrations to refrain from doing so.)

But here's the frustrating part. Imagine the following scenario. A user with Zango's software visits a CJ publisher who is promoting some eBay products. That publisher sets a cookie on the user's machine that says, in effect, "If this user buys something from eBay, I get the commission." But then, before the user visits the eBay site, but after the first cookie was set, Zango happens to pop an ad that sets a different cookie, this one claiming the eBay commission for Zango. Given this scenario, I'm perfectly willing to grant that Zango should not get the commission, and the original publisher should.

So the question is: how do you make sure that the first publisher gets it, and Zango doesn't? For a variety of reasons, this was a difficult scenario to prevent from Zango's side. (Among other things, how are we to know that the site in question belongs to a CJ affiliate?) This is a very simple problem to prevent, however, if you are Commission Junction or LinkShare. Your script should just place different cookies for each publisher, and you should give the commission to the owner of the cookie with the earliest timestamp rather than the latest. But for reasons that I don't understand, neither CJ nor LinkShare would agree to make this simple change: and eventually, under pressure from their other publishers, they stopped doing business with us altogether, to nobody's benefit.

I should note that this is made a little more complicated by the fact that some of the folks who advertised through Zango did in fact engage in nefarious cookie stuffing and commission stealing. The way that Zango's advertising system worked, an advertiser could make the link they insert do pretty much anything allowed by the browser sandbox. And some of our advertisers did engage in commission stealing. It was never possible to catch every instance of this, but we did our darned best, and implemented a number of processes, systems and features to catch folks who were trying to do so. In the end, the extent of such third-party advertiser fraud was minimal.

There's been a lot written about Zango "cookie stuffing", but I should say very clearly: Zango does not stuff cookies, has no interest in stealing somebody else's commission, and did everything it could to prevent this from happening. Yes, Zango did display targeted ads, and would have liked to display ads from affiliate networks: but those ads introduced an ambiguity into the process which the affiliate networks refused to resolve. The net result was that Zango was shut out from what once had been, and should have remained, a mutually beneficial and profitable advertising channel.

[Intrinsic]

major news!

[Cyber Fucker]

Good news! Nevertheless, there is so much more scamming shitware like this around the whole web.

[Carmine Raguso]

SuckOnThis will blame it on the Bush administration. Who cares... they were a shady company, the owners made millions and will re-open shop tomorrow as pornobucksdude.com - play the bro-card and then be raking it in again.

Get a grip.

[Manowar]

cookie stuffing, legendary

[CyberHustler]

Todays news in the zangocash affiliate area:

2009-04-21
ZangoCash Update

On Thursday, April 16th, 2009, certain assets of Zango Inc, including ZangoCash, were purchased by Pinball. Pinball is taking these assets, and, with approximately 60 former Zango employees, is rebuilding and reshaping a new business. Pinball a is well-funded, healthy company with millions available to expand our business.

What does this mean for ZangoCash? BUSINESS AS USUAL. You make installs, we pay for them. The more you make, the more we pay. Same rates, same dates. Look for more tools and content in the future.

Thank you for your patience during this transition, we look forward to a continued prosperous partnership with you.

The ZangoCash Team

[Barefootsies]

Interesting news. Good read.

[StuartD]

zan-gone!

[halfpint]

Hi dude how you doing havent heard from you in ages, Hit me up on ICQ sometime

[cybermike]

so are my sales suppose to go back up now? :O

[Furious_Male]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Todays news in the zangocash affiliate area:

Yes I saw one of the Zango reps post the same info on another board.

On Thursday, April 16th, 2009, certain assets of Zango Inc were purchased by Pinball. Pinball is taking these assets, and, with approximately 60 former Zango employees, is rebuilding and reshaping a new business. Pinball a is well-funded, healthy company with millions available to expand our business.

As far as ZangoCash is concerned: BUSINESS AS USUAL, you make installs we pay for them. The more you make, the more we pay. Look for more tools and content in the future.

Payouts: same rates, same dates, never late. Thank you for your patience during this transition.

It looks like they are shifting some things around.

[AtlantisCash]

promote pinball, be rich...

[Denny]

good news

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by Denny

good news

I'd fuck that girl in your avatar.

[Manowar]

pinballlll

[USUALENT]

Originally Posted by Furious_Male

It looks like they are shifting some things around.

yep that what I get from reading it

[Jakez]

So now it can be ironic when your balls feel like they've been wacked with sticks.

[Elixir]

AMAZING news !!!!

[Diomed]

I wish that Zango fag would show up in this thread

[PornMD]

So where's that one Zangofag that was posting about their new anti-piracy measure and how many large media companies were already on board?

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[grumpy]

why dont we write a zango hicker? enough good programmers here. I will volunteer.

[the.drunk]

goodbye zango

[PornMD]

Originally Posted by Diomed

I wish that Zango fag would show up in this thread

LOL beat me by a minute!

[Ozarkz]

That Zango guy was claiming he was not a part of Zango he had left Zango.

[just a punk]

Good news and fuck zango!

[stickyfingerz]

That zango nick was a fake nick fucking around you guys realized that right? lol

[crockett]

lol good news going round the last few days.. first Pirate bay ..guilty now Zango goes out..

[FreeHugeMovies]

Zango 4 Life

[crockett]

btw.. I hope to hell that some of the GFY users here whom promoted them got shafted and don't get paid. Anyone whom promoted that shit deserves to get ripped..

[notime]

oh well, I'll drink to that. Cheers!

[Robocrop]

Originally Posted by crockett

lol good news going round the last few days.. first Pirate bay ..guilty now Zango goes out..

Yea and the verdict really affected TPB ;)

[cykoe6]

Fuck Zango. Good riddance.

[polish_aristocrat]

The impact of Zango has been exaggerated IMO.

[kowalsky]

Hasta la vista Zango!

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Fuck Zango. Good riddance.

what he said

[Nookster]

Accessory is just as bad as primary. Good riddens.

[EuroRevenueUSA]

very very good news!!

[mineistaken]

why you salute it if those fucktards are continue to be alive and install their shitware as usual?
ref post #6

[Ozarkz]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

That zango nick was a fake nick fucking around you guys realized that right? lol

That's some good trolling he was really into it.

[STAROTICA]

and another one bites the dust....

[DWB]

Originally Posted by PornMD

So where's that one Zangofag that was posting about their new anti-piracy measure and how many large media companies were already on board?

Did you not get a chance to demo that? Un-Fucking-Real!!! We tried for two days to record the stream, even put a video camera in front of the computer and all that recorded was scan lines. I hate to say it but all of you who laughed at him are total dipshits. I've never seen anything like it.

BTW... he stopped working for Zango like a year ago back when they downsized. He posted about that way back when. Again, you guys are dipshits. This is a new company he is working for now but he foolishly kept his old username. I advised him of a name change but he said this board wasn't that important to their business and they only wanted the top players. Cliff notes, little guys with no money or no drive to be in the industry long term, they could give a shit about. I can't blame them really.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Ozarkz

That Zango guy was claiming he was not a part of Zango he had left Zango.

A while ago.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=836032

[Ozarkz]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

A while ago.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=836032

Ahh. I remember seeing that.

[TheSenator]

http://www.zango.com

Still up and running.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster

Good news! Nevertheless, there is so much more scamming shitware like this around the whole web.

True. It's gotten way way more advanced than that and more viral. Social media sites are very vulnerable "inoculation" grounds for such crap

[missipissi]

This is the EXACT same scenario these guys pulled when Hotbar got busted and 180 Solutions "bought their assets" and rebranded them as Zango.

Sound familiar?

They settled soon after for a million or three to the FTC. Swept it under the rug. BUSINESS AS USUAL.

Things don't change. Just the business names do.

[LoveSandra]

That`s great.
Fuck Zango.

Cyanara, no tears here

[Sexyblogger]

pour Zango

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Ozarkz

Ahh. I remember seeing that.

Yea, he's been gone for a while but not very bright to keep the Zango username.